Tuesday, September 27, 2005

This can't be true

No, I do not believe the allegation under discussion here. But if you have (as Sherlock might have put it) a weakness for the outre, you'll want the details.

Remember Barbara Olson, the right-wing propagandist (and wife of solicitor general Ted Olson) who was aboard American Airlines Flight 77 when it slammed into the Pentagon? According to Tom Flocco (yeah, yeah, I know), Babs is still alive. In fact, she was arrested on the Polish-German border, after being found in the possession of fake currency.

Due to the ongoing sensitive nature of the arrest, investigation and questioning, one source who declined to be named for this story, told TomFlocco.com that Olson's call to her husband was a fraud and that another projectile impacted the Pentagon other than Olson's plane.

The agents were said to have closed in to arrest the former television pundit because the evidence of counterfeiting and passport violations was obvious and that the timing was right.

According to the agents, Barbara Olson is reportedly considered to be a conspirator to the obstruction of justice in the mass murders of 3,000 individuals on September 11, 2001 in the attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the alleged crash in southwestern Pennsylvania.
You can safely file this yarn alongside that old tabloid tale that JFK lived into the '90s on a Greek island.

For some reason, Europeans just love the missile-hit-the Pentagon fable, which may be the silliest conspiracy tale to emerge from 9/11. The current story obviously derives from the older hallucination.

Apparently, we are meant to believe that the real Flight 77 landed secretly, undetected by radar, at some secure location. Moreover, we are meant to believe that not just Olson, but an entire planeload of passengers -- not to mention the pilots and flight attendants -- agreed to pretend to be dead, despite the heartache such a ruse would surely bring to their family members. We are meant to believe that the Evil Gummint Conspirators felt certain that these "victims" would keep mum about the plot for the rest of their lives.

Or perhaps they were killed to insure their silence? Well, jeez. If you're going to kill so many people, why not just load 'em into a jet plane and crash it into the Pentagon?

This much-beloved myth postulates a conspiracy without purpose. Just what propaganda objective is achieved by A) making a jet and passengers "disappear" and B) using a missile to fake up a jet ploughing into the Pentagon?

Put yourself in the position of the conspirator-in-chief. Why not just have the plane itself do the work for you? Easy-peasy, as that guy on the Food Network likes to say.

Even so, the Olson story may turn out to contain a kernel of truth. The kind of woman who possesses fake currency may also possess fake identification. "Barbara Olson" is a common enough name; she may not have realized the implications.

You may recall that Babs -- like El Cid riding into post-mortem battle -- did manage to publish, after 9/11, one last volume of ClintonHate. The cadaver of L. Ron Hubbard has pulled off that literary trick so many times that we no longer find it impressive.

You may also recall the similar rumors surrounding Larry MacDonald, the raving right-wing lunatic congressman who went down on KAL 007 in the '80s. Reactionaries still believe that godless commies conspired to "get" MacDonald. Conversely, a few lefties patched together a theory that MacDonald never really boarded the flight, which he (allegedly) knew was doomed. He faked his death because Larry Flynt had come into possession of photos of MacDonald doing the extra-marital nasty.

I still recall those photos, which Flynt eventually published. Some sights are so horrifying they remain seared in your memory forever.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't buy the idea that a missile hit the Pentagon - all the witnesses saw a plane - but there's certainly a possibility that it was something other than Flight 77. There's no way that Hani Hanjour, who could barely fly a Cessna, pulled off the maneuvers necessary to hit the Pentagon the way he did (and conveniently hit the wing that had been under renovation, killing a hundred or so construction workers rather than a few thousand top military officials).

I personally doubt that any of the three planes that hit buildings were the ones they are made out to be. It's more likely that they were remote-controlled planes used in the NORAD exercises that were going on the same day.

Anonymous said...

if you listed to the released tapes of the washington PD radios from the morning of 9/11 its clear an american airlines jet was witnessed hitting the pentagon. i used to doubt this until i heard the tape. (yes i know they can be faked.) one cop on the tape clearly ids it as "american airlines" from the tail logo/livery.

who piloted the plane, or how, may indeed be another matter.

i doubt that proof of the "truth" of that day will surface in our lifetimes if ever. but proof and truth have never been mandatory in changing governments have they?

whats more important -endlessly divisive discussions which cannot be substantially evidenced, or dealing with the immediate threat of fascism in our societies?

Anonymous said...

If the plane that hit the Pentagon
vaporized, as has been widely
reported, then how where the
passengers ID'd by their finger-
prints? Where are the pictures of
the wreckage of such a huge plane?
Why were the videos from security
cameras from across the street
confiscated withen minutes of the
crash, and why haven't we seen
them? Where are the burn marks on
the grass in front of the Pentagon
in pictures taken immediately after
the impact?(They aren't there) And
how did such a huge plane get
through such a small opening, docu-
mented in pictures taken immediately after the crash?
These guys have lied to us over and
over, why are you so ready to
believe their unsatisfactory explantions of what actually
happened on 9-11?

Anonymous said...

All good questions above. There are too many questions here that simply don't add up. Will we ever find these answers? I doubt it...I've also been to the crash site in PA. What struck me immediately was the fact that the plane somehow managed to miss ANY houses, highways, or other man- made structures. It "crashed" in a perfect location for such a crash -an open field surrounded by forested land, which was quickly sealed off from the public. Nevermind the locals who swear that they heard a missle moments before the crash, or the ones who claim that part of the wreckage bore the logo of the US Air Force.

Anonymous said...

All I can post about this now is: thank goodness you had time to compose an entry about this, Joseph. I was wondering if you would--you read my mind again!

Anonymous said...

No no no, JFK didn't live out his life on that Greek island. That was the story put about by Onassis, that he had the Prez on house arrest so he could enjoy Jackie's favors uninterruptedly.

But that was just Greek macho talking.

What really happened was that Castro offered JFK and Marilyn a finca in the highlands of Cuba -- beautiful place really -- so they could enjoy each other's favors interruptedly.

The reason Fidel did this was that -- as with the doctor offer lately -- he believes in turning the other cheek, a quality conspicuously missing in U.S. presidents. Also he was hot for Marilyn, but she had a thing against beards.

However, she did grow to be a grande dame with an excellent command of Spanish, and long outlived JFK, who died of a back problem early in the 70s.

LOL :)

On a serious note, keep us posted on Barbara Olsen, will you? Wacko as it sounds, if there's any teentsy chance there could be something in it, it would be a nice huge chasm in the Administration's 9-11 cover story.

Best as ever,

Bob Coltman

Anonymous said...

Addendum to the above:

The Barbara Olsen story doesn't really require a planeload of people pretending to be dead, though that would make an interesting horror movie, wouldn't it.

No, all it requires is that Barbara Olsen made the call, not from the plane, but somewhere else.

Perhaps the War Room deep underneath the White House? No no, spank my hand, bad bad thought.

Bob

Anonymous said...

Irregardless (love that stupid word!) of
the question of Barbara Olson's 9/11
victimhood, the fact that the Pentagon was
undefended is unbelievable. The White
House had SAMs ever since some nut flew at
plane onto the grounds, the G-8 at Genoa
in 7/01 had SAMs after Egyptian warnings
that Osama planned an aerial assault, and
W's Sarasota hotel had SAMs when he slept
there 9/10/01.

In 10/00 the Pentagon conducted an
exercise involving a crashed airliner.
Surely Pentagon employees looking at
airliners flying past every day said to
themselves "Gee, if you hijacked one of
those...."

The Sea Sparrow SAM battery as installed
on aircraft carriers comes in a package
the size of a Ford Explorer. Let's not
argue the 757/missile question any
further. The Pentagon should have been
defended 9/11, but wasn't.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Joe, this one is utter crap. You may not have read the original Flocco blog post, which he cleverly edited after coming under withering criticism. Here's what he originally said:

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Austria--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olson, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-Austrian border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the agents.

end of quotation

What's wrong with this? Plenty! First Austria and Poland do not share a border. Second, Italy does not use the Lira (never was spelled Lyra), because it, like most of Europe, switched to the Euro.

Pure bunkem, and it reduces your credibility to even mention this theory, even if it was a different Barbara Olsen.

For a thorough debunking go to DU, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=56001&mesg_id=56001

Hamden of DU

Joseph Cannon said...

Let me get this straight. My credibility has been "reduced" because I MENTIONED the theory...even though I said you could file it alongside the "JFK is alive" tabloid yarn?

And then you tell me that Democratic Underground devoted a longish thread to the theory.

I guess the credibility of all those posters must REALLY be in the crapper!

And let's not talk about the credibility of every scientist who has ever mentioned creationism, even if they did so only to refute it...

Anonymous said...

The part that is credibility damaging is the paragraph where you say there may be a kernel of truth to the story. It's hard to find a kernel of truth in any story involving forged lyra {sic} on the Austria-Poland border.

As for the DU thread, "laughing at" would be a better description than "debunking" -- although there was a lot of more serious off topic discussion of the "no plane" theory.

Hamden

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