Friday, July 23, 2010

Mickey Mouse

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Hope this doesn't mean a comeback, asshole.
 
Well, either hes playing the ultimate primadonna card of threatening with suicide hoping for people to intertwine , or he shows to be a man of his word IN THE END, and if so, I promise to feel a bit of pity for him.
 
To the other anonymous: Mickey is reaching for a hunting gun, not a hand gun. Don't assume jack ass.
 
Hope you're making a comeback soon. Off to read about the history of this cartoon via Blue Lyon.
 
Hey Joe!

I for one do hope this means you're posting again, and I very much hope you are not feeling suicidally depressed. Did you draw the cartoon yourself? If so, it's a brilliant, albeit disturbing, bit of fakery.

The cartoon reminds me of a joke that you've probably heard, but I'll share it anyway.

Scene: a psychiatrist's office.

Psychiatrist [said in a Viennese accent]: Zo Mr. Mouse, you are telling me your wife is mentally ill?

Patient [said in a high-pitched voice]: No! I said she's f*cking Goofy!

I do hope you are doing all right, and that you do return to blogging again (if it makes you happy). Don't let the a-holes get you down!
 
I like how the first anonymous commenter hates the blog, but apparently still comes here more often than anyone else. He probably feels like Mickey in the cartoon... "Without Cannonfire around to spew hatred at, I might as well end it all."

This post probably gave the poor slob enough hope to carry him another six months.
 
It's good to see an update here! (Even if it's a brief one.)

Here's some Mouse news that's maybe sorta on-topic (at least in a technical sort of way):

Fantagraphics Books will be publishing the complete Floyd Gottfredson Mickey Mouse newspaper comic sarips, starting in May 2011. Carl Barks may get all the deification, but Floyd Gottfredson definitely deserves this sort of de-luxe treatment!

(btw, more Cannonfire, please.)
 
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Sunday, February 28, 2010

Goodbye

When I began this blog, I swore to keep it up until a certain thing happened. It happened. I have to stop now.

Many thanks to the supportive readers, especially to the ones who contributed.

I will leave the blog up for at least a week, just in case people want to download older posts. After that, I will hit the "Delete blog" button.

No comments will be posted. None will be read. No questions will be answered.
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YaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaYYYYYYYYYY

Your absence is greatly appreciated..now seek help and come back sane and sober..Obama Rocks!
And the Twin Towers were brought down bu the Bush/Cheny/Nazi insiders and Securacom, Marvin Bush's company planted the explosives.
Thankfully your eeforts to silence us is flushing..I can hear it mnow..what a joyous sound it is.
 
you forgot to delete it !
 
This blog wuzn't nuthin' but shit when it was active and it ain't nuthin' but shit now.
 
bye clown master.
 
controlled demolition of a crap blog
 
Though this comment will likely get deleted, I thought you might find some satisfaction in seeing the additional downstream consequences of your postings on Posner:
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/03/gerald_posner_plagiarized_seve.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/03/video_gerald_posner_apologizes.php
http://gawker.com/5497305/gerald-posner-im-a-thieving-cocksucker
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2010-04-01/news/gerald-posner-plagiarized-new-times-pbs-and-many-others/
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/03/more_gerald_posner_plagiarism.php?page=6
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/03/gerald_posner_plagiarism_is_ol.php
http://gawker.com/5505620/gerald-posner-may-set-world-plagiarism-record
 
THANK GODNESS U R GONE









idiot
 
this blog is crap im glad it's gone im glad UR gone u think this blog is so cool and inspiring when its really not. check out all the comments... that u haven't deleted. they all think u r an moron and im sure the ones that u deleted thought u were too. cause u r one so good riddance that u r gone.


MORON
 
Please come back. I need
your analytical skills.
Reading your blog was my
favorite time of day on-line. On a completely different topic, I need
someone to design a label
for some bath powder I invented, and was wondering
if you'd give me a quote on
what you charge. I haven't
won the lottery yet- I always thought when the Banksters and Wall Street rendered cash meaningless,
it would be my turn to win
a jackpot (personal motto:
Irony is my co-pilot). At
least I think it's irony.
Does anyone elses co-pilot
carry a cicle? Maybe he's
just a Communist. I haven'y seen any hammer yet
though, but whenever I turn
away from him/her (not big
on showing the face either)
I get a horrible migraine that starts in the back of my head. I've got one now.
Need to be more viligant.

Please come back. I want to have at least some fun
in a day filled with pain.

Sincerely,
Carol
 
Joe -

I would really like to know that you are okay and where you are hanging out these days. I still miss your blog but would at least take comfort hearing that you are alright. Plese get in touch at the address below.

Emjaybee

mjbartus at aol dot com
 
Carol: Write to me.
 
Hey Joe. Just responding to Carol is good enough. Hope all is well.
 
Hi,
This is David. You may not know me but I am a regular reader of your blog (http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/). I just love the way you write, your writing style, funny things and many more. You just write what you like without being bothered of anyone. A few months back I was surprised to see this ‘Goodbye’ but I felt somewhere that you will return and start posting but…nothing till now and the blog is dead for a long time. If you are too busy with your job why can’t you give the blog to someone else who is ready to take care and why do you Delete the blog. If you like can I continue posting? Please. I may not be as good as you but I’ll try my best to keep up to your level.

Waiting for your reply,


Thanks
David
metropolitanshuttleinfo@gmail.com
www.metropolitanshuttle.com
 
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Saturday, February 27, 2010

Don't be surprised if he actually says this



After all, the right is trying blame the Wall Street debacle on hippies. So anything is possible.

Apparently, the flower children invaded Goldman, AIG and Merril Lynch, and then forced those companies to issue wacky CDOs. Then they spray-painted "Acid is groovy! Kill the pigs!" on the walls.

The film Generation Zero, which pushes the inane Hippies-on-Wall-Street meme, is now being advertised on Cannonfire, via the Google ad system. I can't choose the ads, alas. But you ought to check out the film's website. Yes, Fox is promoting this thing, big time. As the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers once said: "Outtasight comedy!"
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As a proud Baby Boomer, I'm used to being blamed for everything.

The reason for this is simple. Our generation gets blamed for everything because we refused to go off to die quietly in Viet Nam.

Not going off quietly to die is the ultimate sin in American culture, punishable by a lifetime of badmouthing from people who are not a whit better than we.
 
Everything is the baby boomer's fault... including the Tea Parties... LOL... at least according to these Dem strategists

Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the '60s http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ellis25-2010feb25,0,3374643.story
 
Well, Joe, there was this phenomenon of the Jewish "Dawk," dating and evolving from the Vietnam Era. Dove on Vietnam, hawk wherever Israel's interests were concerned. I suppose someone might produce a work on the evolving antiwar hippie to yuppie phenom among that very disproportionate element of American high finance in the debacle.
 
The opposite of sanity is Hannity
 
Sean Hannity?
Gee ... look him up and guess what?
No mention of military service.
Funny that, all these media types that hack on Democrats being weak on National Security never served.
It's so easy being a hawk when you know you won't be called up.
But that is the sad story of the republican party, send the poor off to fight the wars they start. Too bad the voters don't wake up to that fact.
But then nobody said you had to have a brain to support the GOP.
 
Uh- can you say image damage control?
Those neocapitalists pigs sure are a crafty bunch:

Stephen K. Bannon: Writer/Director/Producer

Mr. Bannon is chairman and CEO of Affinity Media, the largest digital asset exchange and content company in the video game space. He is a former Naval Officer, Honors Graduate of Harvard Business School, and a former M&A Investment Banker at Goldman Sachs. Mr. Bannon owned and ran his own investment banking boutique for ten years in Beverly Hills. He is actively engaged in a number of companies in the entertainment and media industry.

An award winning film-maker, Mr. Bannon was the writer/director of "In the Face of Evil" the classic account of Ronald Reagan's long struggle with communism. He has produced and executive produced and financed numerous films, including "Titus Andronicus" and "The Last 600 Meters".

His oldest daughter Maureen attends the United States Military Academy at West Point. Mr. Bannon is a native of Richmond, VA and resides in Laguna Beach, CA.


Sounds like he was born into the CIA....I would hardly call him a flower child--and seeing him as a former Goldman Sachs piglet, I call bullshit on this whole film.
 
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Prediction

The post below about Bunning's belligerence confirms everyone's suspicion that the overall GOP plan is to wreck the American economy under Obama's watch. The idea is create a Democratic version of Herbert Hoover, who will then usher in a couple of decades of unassailable Republican dominance. (Oddly enough, Obama himself seems to be down with this.)

But in order to make that trick work, the Republicans are going to have to repair the economy -- at least to some degree -- once they get back into office. The only ideologically permissible jobs program will involve military Keynesianism, funded by yet more massive debt. That's how Reagan did it.

Of course, the right will need to prepare the way for that course of action with a propaganda barrage designed to portray America as militarily weak. A similar barrage flooded the media starting in 1977-1978.

If my suspicions are correct, then you should expect the new barrage to hit at some point during 2010 and 2011. The propaganda blitz will start with a flurry of alarming reports from the Army War College and similar institutions. These reports will pretend that the American infantry is still using muskets, the Air Force is still flying King Kong-style bi-planes, and the Navy is still sailing three-masted frigates. "And that's why we need to double our investment in weapons development now now now."

Or so we will be told. Watch it happen.
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I like to tell myself that Americans won't fall for it again. Our poor country :(
 
Well, back during the Eisenhower administration road-building was all the rage... I'm not sure that militarized Keynesianism of the Reagan era is going to be repeated, defense spending is very high already as it is. And with populism being as high as it is, unless the GOP steps up to the plate and satisfies at least part of it, the anti-gov't sentiment will drift leftward once the GOP is in office.

But the big question is why is the Democratic Party itself so hell-bent to make Obama look like the second coming of Herbert Hoover. Sure, the GOP wants him to fail. But Obama is capable of failing entirely on his own.
 
Team B lives? :(
 
This isn't about the republicans, they are a constant, sabotaging the Democrats is what they do. It's what they have always done post Watergate.
This is about Democrats that are too stupid, too scared or too far into the pocket of corporations to govern.
I'm sorry but they deserve to go down in flames.
Judases, the lot of them, standing in a circle stabbing each other in the back, scrambling like pigs at the trough to get that last bit of silver from the Pontius Pilates that really run America.
 
Joseph, it seems your view is that the Democrat's work is being frustrated by the GOP, but I don't believe it. I think it's the good cop bad cop strategy. The Democrats are very happy to appear frustrated, knowing full well both parties work for the same masters. It's all theater. As horrible as it is for millions to be without health care, I'm afraid that's a better outcome than paying the insurance companies outrageous premiums and tax dollars for a half decent health care. It's obscene what the Democrats are pushing -- a tribute to insurance companies.
 
Gotta agree with Anonymous who says they're in bed together.
 
Something akin to Team B operated during the Clinton administration, its members included Rumsfeld and other future luminaries of the Bush administrations, and the conclusions they drew pointed toward a need to massive investment in space warfare and missile defenses.

But the intent of that was not job creation or even fattening the wallets of defense contractors. Just look at how many programs Cheney axed as SecDef in the GHWB administration, and how many programs Rumsfeld killed during his tenure as GWB's SecDef. The objective is the creation of reliable first-strike nuclear capability, against the Soviets in the '80s and against the both the Russians and the Chinese in the last generation. Any profiteering was purely incidental, a collateral benefit, but not the goal. They are very particular as to what they want to spend that money on.
 
I don't know what to say about these people, so I'll just harken back to olden times and say: "far out, man!"
 
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Bunning

Republican Jim Bunning of Kentucky is getting the credit for single-handedly blocking the unemployment benefits of 1.2 million jobless people. This recession is going to feel like a Depression once those benefits run out.

And that's not all that Bunning has been up to: He is also shutting down much of the transportation department, blocking states from receiving highway and transit funds.

I understand the strategy here. Any misery inflicted by Bunning will be blamed on Obama and the Democrats. All of this is reminiscent of the Clinton era, when the Republicans won majorities in Congress and then overplayed their hand by shutting down the government. The public blamed the Republicans, and Clinton benefited politically. But now, the Democrats are the majority party, and they -- fairly or otherwise -- will take the blame.

Or...maybe Sean Hannity will tell those 1.2 million people to blame hippies.
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The Democrats should take 100 percent of the blame for being incompetent. Bunning makes clear how much power one senator has, when he/she has the guts to use that power. When in the minority, there wasn't a single senator, in the Democratic Party that stopped G.W. When I think back at the losses from 2000 to 2004, the Democrats were in a much better position than the GOP is in now. The Democrats make the case for progressives to skip voting for Democratic candidates that go to Washington.
 
anon 11:54
And then what?
 
And then what?
We go a little further to the right and a different set of congress members get to receive the largess of corporate America.
 
I like your optimism!
 
And then what? I'm not for the bonding of corporations with the government, but that's what we have now and the voters need to see the truth clearly. The HCR bill is a perfect example of how the two parties work for corporate America. The GOP wants corporate America to have the freedom to stick it to the voters, and the Democrats want the voters pay tribute to corporate America. Either way, we're screwed. Other than local elections, I see no reason to vote for either party because the result is the same.
 
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Chile

We're all stunned by the reports and images coming out of Chile. An 8.8 earthquake is unimaginable to me. There is talk of a tsunami; California residents have been urged to avoid the shore.

Although we're all stretched pretty thin, soon we will have to contribute to charities which can help the victims. We have no choice but to be as generous as possible.

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I'm glad we're able to give.
 
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Literary news

I'm not convinced that many readers share my interest in Gerry Posner, so I won't post as much information about him as I would prefer. But don't be surprised if, very soon, you see an article (not written by me) detailing plagiarisms and quote alterations in his most recent book, Miami Babylon. I hope the piece will be published in a "real" periodical, because Wikipedia won't cite Cannonfire, even if the facts are inarguable.

So what is Gerry up to these days? Rumor has it that he has retreated into a deep seclusion, following advice given to him by his spiritual teacher, Yaqui shaman don Juan Matus. But don't worry -- he'll still keep busy on various projects. I hear he'll be editing the recently discovered autobiography of Howard Hughes and authenticating the diary of Jack the Ripper. He also plans to tell the story of his own harrowing boyhood experiences as a Holocaust survivor who walked 1900 miles in search of his parents and lived, for a time, with a pack of wolves. Word has it that a new film about Gerry's plagiarisms will blame the problem on hippies.

I'll confess it: Wikipedia's refusal to cite this blog sticks in my craw. The policy is new -- Wikipedia entries have referenced Cannonfire posts previously. And Wikipedia won't scrub citations of works by Gerry Posner, even though he is what he is.

Something strange seems to have happened behind the scenes at Wikipedia: See the tale of "Slim Virgin" here. Turns out that Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales is an Ayn Randroid. Yet another libertarian! They're freaking everywhere!
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I had a case of ayn randriods once, very painful to pinch a loaf.
 
At least three years ago, I was counseled by someone I trust to never use Wikipedia as a source for anything.
 
Though this might be old news to you, I found this article on Ayn Rand particularly interesting and terrifying.
 
Oddly enough, I was thinking about writing about that very article. Perhaps later today.
 
It's YOUR blog -- you (and only you) decide what goes in it. So post as much about Posner as you like. Many (like me) will read it; others will pass and wait for the next post.
 
Yes - hold the front page - the basic ideology of Wikipedia is right wing. As in, seriously right wing. Wales's ex-girlfriend has revealed how for a lengthy period of time he constantly ranted at her against the evil of altruism. Google ain't too lovely either.

Scarily, many people view Wikipedia as canonical. (Nothing is canonical, baby). I try to fight this by referring to it as "Jimmy Wales's website". When they say they haven't heard of it, I say oh, it's called "Wikipedia". I like to think some neurons fire in their heads at that point.

Some people just don't get it that Wikipedia is a website, Facebook is a website, Google is a website, Youtube is a website, etc. All of the actions and interactions that go on using these places are much easier to control than Usenet was (and still is, to the extent that it still exists - few ISPs run news servers nowadays).

Ain't this what Marx called centralisation (fuelled by, but not only by, concentration)?

b
 
Oh, dear....not sure one week will be enough time to capture all your ayn-randroid-spankings!!!
 
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Friday, February 26, 2010

Tea Partiers and propaganda

We're still haunted by the ghosts of 1968.

Not many days ago, the right began to push the insane meme that the Wall Street crisis resulted not from deregulation and deception but from the "hippie ethos." Now we have this L.A. Times piece which claims to show us the true face of the Tea Party movement, based on the results of a recent CNN poll:
Neither "average Americans," as they like to portray themselves, nor trailer-park "Deliverance" throwbacks, as their lefty detractors would have us believe, tea partyers are more highly educated and wealthier than the rest of America. Nearly 75% are college educated, and two-thirds earn more than $50,000.

More likely to be white and male than the general population, tea partyers also skew toward middle age or older. That's the tell. Most came of age in the 1960s, an era distinguished by widespread disrespect for government. In their wonder years, they learned that politics was about protesting the Establishment and shouting down the Man. No wonder they're doing that now.
Hold on thar. We need at least two more tells: Region and religion. The great nationwide tea party is lot more caffeinated in Mobile, Alabama than in San Francisco, the acknowledged capitol of Hippieland.

Still, there is some truth to the observation that the anti-war rhetoric of 1969 segued neatly into the Milton Friedmanite revolution of 1979 and beyond. The Vietnam-era student protesters shouted "Don't trust the government!" And then came Reagan, who shouted back: "Yeah, don't trust the government! Trust the corporations instead!" The right-wing revolutionaries needed only to convince the populace that Big Biz and The People were one.

That's when they discovered that endless propaganda can work wonders.

Alas, as the years progressed, many American businessmen discovered that their companies could not survive without a middle class customer base, a base which the previous Keynesian consensus had created and protected. Not that you could ever get those businessmen to admit that thirty years of Friedmanism destroyed the middle class. Businessfolk have been propagandized too. Libertarian ideology is hardwired into their brains.

Despite the concessions I've made above, I have serious problems with the L.A. Times' "blame the hippies" analysis:
The partyers are essentially replaying the '60s protest paradigm. (We're aging boomers ourselves, so we know it when we see it.) They fancy themselves the vanguard of a revolution, when in fact they are typical self-absorbed, privileged children used to having their way -- now -- and uninhibited about complaining loudly when they don't. It's the same demographic Spiro Agnew called "an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals."

In a flashback of "turn on, tune in, drop out," the partyers reject mainstream culture, don the equivalent of Che T-shirts that say "Don't Tread on Me," and join sects with trippy names like Oath Keepers, Patriotic Resistance and Freedom Force. Instead of getting themselves "back to the garden," they get off the grid and, like the Bill Ayers crew, indulge in fantasies about armed rebellion against the establishment.
I would not be so quick to dismiss the "fantasy" of armed rebellion. That's my quarrel with Ian Welsh's recent prognostications: He dismisses the possibility that the current dark talk of guns and seccession might soon result in the actual discharge of firearms on a mass scale.

I think we came close to that hideous flash point during the Clinton years. Even though times were good, relentless propaganda caused rampant anti-government paranoia, which gave way to sporadic violence. Now, times are bad, and they may get worse. I fear that we may soon see another Oklahoma City. Worse, I fear that many Americans will sympathize with the home-grown terrorists.

Propaganda. My biggest problem with conventional analysis of the Tea Party movement is the refusal to acknowledge the role of propaganda. That's also my problem with conventional analyses of the Reagan revolution and the Clinton-era militia movement. All pundits insist on operating under the delusion that these things arise spontaneously.

They don't.

We don't like to admit that propaganda plays a decisive role in American politics. We don't like to admit that most of our fellow human beings are ambulatory MP3 players who emit whatever sound files have been programmed into them.

If we allow ourselves to confess the fact -- to me, the obvious fact -- that propaganda is both ubiquitous and effective, then we must also confess the existence of propagandists. Hidden manipulators, if you will. But if we acknowledge the existence of such manipulators, we enter a realm parlously close to conspiracy theory. Hence, the very thought is impermissible.

Mainstreamers have a phobic reaction toward anything that reeks of conspiracy theory. Outside of the mainstream, the paranoia junkies refuse to admit that they are the most easily manipulated group in the country.

The birthers and teabaggers and the trannies all like to think that they can think. In fact, all of those people are really just ambulatory MP3 players. True, they've been programmed with what they consider an "alternative" playlist. But it's not a real alternative, since the songs still convey a Friedmanite message. The tea partying paranoids are puppets who operate under the delusion that they have cut the strings. They think that they are are free, but their subculture has been firmly under control from the start.

I'm not impressed by CNN's alleged poll results indicating that the baggers went to college. I visit college campuses often, and I see quite a few "ambulatory MP3 players" marching off to class. Indeed, collegiate ambulatory MP3 players put Barack Obama into office.

Beans: Propaganda can convince the masses of pretty much any proposition, however foolish. It's just a matter of determining how large a budget you will need -- $10 million, $10 billion, some figure in between.

I'm very serious when I say this: If you have enough money, you can convince a large sector of the population that pinto beans cure lung cancer.

Consider: With enough money, you can buy scientists who will get fake pinto bean studies into respected, peer-reviewed journals. (That sort of thing is more easily done than you may believe.) You can trumpet those studies in the popular media using purchased assets. You can have a brigade of radio propagandists blare the message daily.

"Pinto beans cure lung cancer! Go ahead and smoke all you want, because now we have a cure for cancer -- beans!"

Of course, propaganda works best when it contains a kernel of truth, however small. In this case, one could argue that pinto beans are fat-free, and that people with low fat intake are much less likely to develop gastric reflux problems, which can cause cancer of the esophagus and lungs. Ergo, pinto beans cure lung cancer.

That's an inane argument, of course: There's a difference between prevention and a cure, and there are innumerable other ways of reducing fat intake. But most people are too stupid to notice nice distinctions. A tiny kernel of truth is all you need to make your $10 billion pinto bean campaign into a raging success -- if you have $10 billion to spend on such a foolish project.

In all of the political propaganda blitzes that have afflicted this nation since 1979, there have been kernels of truth, sometimes very large kernels. For example, the Savings and Loan system really did need regulatory reform when Reagan came into office. That was the kernel of truth which allowed Reagan to do away with regulation altogether, thereby inviting sharks into the swimming pool.

Are there kernels of truth in the slogans shouted by the Tea Partiers? Of course.

That's what makes the baggers so easy to manipulate. That's what makes their movement so dangerous.
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Well we didn't think that minorities participated much in tea parties. That leaves white folks.
We really didn't think that the youth were the backbone of the tea party. That leaves middle aged white folks.
We knew that rich folks were not hurting economically and poor folks didn't just get a backbone to protest. That leaves the middle class/middle aged white folks.
Male and College Grad part does surprise me since I have seen more women shouting in these events and more mis-spelled/factually ironic slogans displayed.
 
Whatever. But the pro-corporation tea partiers are the least likely to provide armed resistance to tyranny, accepting here a latitudinarian definition of tyranny.
 
Yes.
 
In today's society, a college degree is such a prerequisite to some decent pay rate that it has become a meaningless credential. It doesn't mean anything like it used to, IMO. Now, GRADUATE level education serves as a proxy for the old way a college bachelor level degree served. And, not too surprisingly, those with advanced degrees at a graduate level lean Democratic Party at almost the levels of standard Democratic constituencies (Jews and A-As, and now, Latinos).

So, increasingly, the GOP and their ilk, including most of these Tbagger types, skew white and ignorant.

Allegedly, John Stuart Mill once said, 'Not all conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are conservatives.' (I say allegedly, since I've not found a credible source for the statement, and of course, he was discussing 'conservatives' in its meaning in the 18th century, iirc.

I don't want to sound elitist in this, but really, if you think Glenn Beck is some font of wisdom and insight, well...[QED]

Notice the clever attack now on 'progressives.' No, not the Joe Cannon attack on progs as Obamaites, but Beck's attack on the Progressive Movement of the later 19th century into the early 20th, as the ultimate Evil. Poisoning the well for the liberals who've chosen the 'progressive' label as a way to get out of the demonization of the term 'liberal.'

A fairly clever propaganda effort. And with a slight bit of truth, at least (many in the prog movement originally were eugenicists, for example).

What really bugs me though are these lame conspiracy theories I reject in favor of some far more fringe conspiracy theories I favor. I'd be happy to spin them out for hours a day over the airways, for a bare 8-figure annual salary (open to negotiation for 7-figures, btw). LOL!

XI
 
"Blame the hippies" is laughable. I know of no former hippies who are now Tea Partiers. I’m sure a few exist somewhere – but at most they’re a tiny minority.

Talking about MP3 players…
"Ron Alsop, a former reporter for The Wall Street Journal and the author of The Trophy Kids Grow Up: How the Millennial Generation Is Shaking Up the Workplace, says a combination of entitlement and highly structured childhood has resulted in a lack of independence and entrepreneurialism in many 20-somethings. They’re used to checklists, he says, and 'don’t excel at leadership or independent problem solving.' Alsop interviewed dozens of employers for his book, and concluded that unlike previous generations, Millennials, as a group, 'need almost constant direction' in the workplace. 'Many flounder without precise guidelines but thrive in structured situations that provide clearly defined rules.'"
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/print/2010/03/how-a-new-jobless-era-will-transform-america/7919/

This description really fits with my experience – both with regard to Millennials that I’ve hired to work in our lab, and in my experience as a university instructor. In interviews for job applicants, I generally ask the question: "If you were a book, what book would you be?". The large majority of Millenial college students answer "Harry Potter". And experience has shown me that anyone with this answer is a disaster as an employee in a science lab (e.g. they can’t think for themselves). Interestingly, college students from working class backgrounds answer "Harry Potter" far less frequently, and often end up performing better in the lab.

On the topic of conspiracies – I tend to take an intermediate stance and generally favor certain types of systemic explanations (ala Chomsky) over puppeteer explanations. Propaganda certainly works though, and money can buy most everything (including human belief).
 
It's all so damn depressing. I've sparred with some of these people at other sites, staunch tea partiers for whom Sarah Palin is Joan of Arc, Glenn Beck and his list of Evil Progressives is a wise man, and John Stack, the suicide pilot of Austin, is the Hero of Liberty.

Mindboggling!

If this is the alternative to the Democratic disaster we're witnessing right now, we might as well all cash in our chips and go home. I mean honestly, who do you vote for? My own party, the Dems, have totally betrayed everything I believe in. And the Repugs? They were always nuts IMHO but now they're absolute straightjacket material.

And for Anon at 6:40, I think what Beck is doing with this Enemies List is totally despicable. You have people eating this stuff up, insisting that it's true.

So, maybe the premise is indeed true. Enough money, you can make people believe anything. Afterall, it worked for Obama.

It's still depressing.
 
Acknowledging the presence of propaganda and propandists is not anathema to the teabagger worldview. In my experience, they're perfectly capable of holding views of conspiracies, so long as they fit their pre-conceived ideologies - the liberal media, global warming as hoax, the faked birth certificate, etc. It's more a matter of a different set of interests they view as being the propagandists.

The free market / friedmanite meme has been fantastically successful as a propaganda tool, which has been the central enabler of other surrogate memes of the teabaggers and their recent ilk. It's like the Laffer curve - an obvious falsehood that is accepted because it feels so good to believe it (Lower tax rates = more tax revenue! So obvious!).

I think the "two santa claus" concept is also a valid argument, to wit: As the long-term goal of the modern conservative wing is to dismantle social entitlement programs such as social security and medicare, the strategy is to cause a financial crisis that forces cuts in their funding as a means to eliminate them. In action this has meant intentional fiscal irresponsibility during GOP reign combined with popular feel-good programs - tax cuts + increased spending/deficits, undermining the federal financial situation. Create a financial problem, then hand the country (at least in terms of optics) over to the Democrats. They then spend their time in power trying to correct the financial mess they inherited while being hamstrung on introducing any new spending - due to complains of fiscal irresponsibility by the very actors who caused the mess in the first place.

The most obvious questions for any big-government-opposing, anti-tax teabagger are: "Where were you when GWB was running up the long-term federal debt", and "So you must be a fan of Bill Clinton, right?" - since he alone in modern history returned the country to running surpluses rather than deficits.

I also like "deficit peacocks" who gripe about the fiscal situation staunchly oppose the HCR which the CBO judges will reduce the deficit significantly in the long run. Another good one is that a small (7%?) percent of long-term federal deficits are related to Obama-initiated spending (most is short-term and does not effect the long-term outlook heavily).

It might also be noted that during the 90's, the federal debt was a cause celebre amongst conservatives, but as soon as Clinton had returned us to running surpluses the argument changed to "If we're running surpluses, we're over-taxing you - ergo, huge tax cuts for the rich and a $300 check for everyone else!"

Apologies for the rambling.
 
Not every middle-aged white guy who attended college during the Vietnam era was a hippie.

Some went to colleges in the south where hippies were an endangered species.

Some went to Vietnam and then came back and went to college.

Some people were hippies the way later generations were goths, skaters, grunge, etc. - it was a style more than a political statement.
 
"That leaves middle aged white folks."

Wll now, beeta, leaves them to WHAT, specifically? Demise Defeat? By WHO?

What is wrong with this group of "middle aged white folks"? The fact that they (as not you) are white or middle aged? Both? Why are you threatened by them? Elaborate.
 
A new film blames hippies for the financial collapse. Apparently the film is really popular among Tea Partiers.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/woodstock-hippies-lead-financial-collapse-film/story?id=9958077
So hippies can be blamed for everything (on all sides).
 
"I fear that we may soon see another Oklahoma City." Have you listened to Mark Levin lately? The guy is coming awfully close to incitement to riot; very, very close.
 
Anon 1.26
I am middle aged and white and I don't hate myself. I was examining elements of the cited poll which finds certin groups more represented in the tea party movement. I meant no general hate for any group.
 
http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/55671/


Merck paid an undisclosed sum to Elsevier to produce several volumes of a publication that had the look of a peer-reviewed medical journal, but contained only reprinted or summarized articles--most of which presented data favorable to Merck products--that appeared to act solely as marketing tools with no disclosure of company sponsorship.


Image: flicker/meviola
"I've seen no shortage of creativity emanating from the marketing departments of drug companies," Peter Lurie, deputy director of the public health research group at the consumer advocacy nonprofit Public Citizen, said, after reviewing two issues of the publication obtained by The Scientist. "But even for someone as jaded as me, this is a new wrinkle."

Read more: Merck published fake journal - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences
 
The tea party demographic as described sounds exactly like libertarians, or what Pew generously calls "entrepreneurs", and what I call "greedy, selfish bastards."
 
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Thursday, February 25, 2010

Paying for it



It has been an interesting news day for Vampire Squid hunters.

First, we have this insider account of how AIG works. Two former female vice presidents who worked for the derivatives unit have come forward to say that the company is rife with age and gender bias.
In a lawsuit filed Monday in the New Haven, Connecticut federal court, Susan Potter and Deonna Taylor alleged that AIG misled them about the existence of a salary cap, and paid male employees and younger employees more for comparable work.

The women also said the defendants "fostered a 'boys club' atmosphere," and that 96 of AIG's 108 vice presidents worldwide were men. They further alleged that Joseph Cassano, who once led AIG Financial Products, preferred to attract younger workers to give AIG "curb appeal," and once remarked that he did not want any employees who looked like his aunt.
This is the way the world ends: Drowning in a vat of debt and testosterone.

Meanwhile, the right is now publicizing a multi-media propaganda blitz devoted to the hilarious thesis that the economic meltdown resulted not from a lack of regulation but -- get this -- the "hippie ethos."
In other words, Bossie and Co. have concocted the perfect fantasy for right-wingers in denial over the complete, fully manifested failure of their approach to governance -- one that lets them, once again, blame those dirty hippies for everything wrong with America. No wonder it was so popular at the National Tea Party Convention and at CPAC.
The AIG story above reveals that the atmosphere within these financial institutions had far more to do with Reagan-era boy's clubbiness than with the flower children of 1967. The culprits resemble Gordon Gecko a hell of a lot more than they resemble Abbie Hoffman or R. Crumb.

The right wing propagandists have become so arrogant that they now feel they can sell the public on any proposition, however contradictory to common sense. What's next? Is Sean Hannity going to blame the Haiti earthquake on Robert F. Kennedy?

Meanwhile, former Goldman Sachs chairperson Jon Corzine says that the only reason why people dislike Goldman is "envy." That's a very Nietzschean attitude, eh wot? Sounds like something Hitler might have said in 1941 to explain why so many people disliked Germany.

(Screw Godwin's law. New rule: Godwin's law is dead.)

"Envy" isn't the word I'd use to describe how people should feel toward a company that buys politicians, changes laws and places the entire world economy at risk by selling unfathomable new financial instruments, mis-rated as AAA and based entirely on crap. These are the guys who robbed your retirement accounts, forcing you to work into your 70s. Are you merely jealous of those bastards, or do you feel that you have a legitimate beef?

Nevertheless, I expect the Tea Partiers to pick up on this "envy" meme. Soon. And the moment they do, you'll know who is paying for whom.

I think it is very telling -- very very telling -- that the people now screaming loudest in favor of high Wall Street compensation are the teabaggers. (If you object to my use of the term, don't bother sending me the usual complaints. I will no longer print or read them.) The Tea Party movement now wears a "Property of Wall Street" label. In fact, I would say that the baggers no longer wear that label hidden on the inside collar. The message is in huge white letters on the front and back of the jacket.

That last assertion may seem counterintuitive to those anti-Obama writers who have argued (as I have argued) that Obama himself was and is shamefully compromised -- and funded -- by Goldman and its cohorts. But look at the facts on the ground:

1. The Tea Partiers want no pay caps for the Wall Street executives whose firms survived based on governmental bailouts.

2. The Tea Party movement originated in a successful effort to stave off a HOLC-style bailout for people with bad mortgages. (More about this soon.)

3. The Tea Partiers use pseudo-populist rhetoric to justify growing income inequality and low taxes on the ultra-affluent.

3. And now, the Tea Partiers lead the battle against any financial regulations which pose the danger of returning the world to fiscal sanity.

It's a battle that they will probably win.

That's why I have posted the excellent video clip above, featuring Elizabeth Warren. Watching this video will require an investment of seven-and-a-half minutes of your life -- and right now, that's the wisest investment you could make.

Pay special attention to her comments at the end. The bit about the war chest. If you don't think that at least some of that money is going to the baggers, grow up.

Why would the big bankers toss money at both Barack Obama and his Tea Party opponents? Let's compare Team Obama to a Manila folder. That's an apt comparison: On the rare occasions when this administration tries to do something decent or liberal, the O-folk soon fold under pressure. And not much pressure is needed, because the damned thing was designed to fold.

By investing so heavily in the Democrats, Wall Street put the crease in the folder. That crease is what makes the turnover so effortless.

By investing in the Republican tea partiers, Wall Street provides the hand which will do the actual folding.
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Professor Elizabeth Warren's video was interesting and shows an interest towards positive change. But there is still something else!

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
 
The Democrats are the Washington Generals of politics.
 
The stink of hypocrisy, ignorance and racism has been wafting from the teabaggers all along, but adopting the talkings points of the handlers may finally convince those outside the far right that still consider the teaparty movement grass roots and Palin a serious candidate to see this charade for what it is.
 
Was the reduction of the highest marginal list-order bracket to 3 part of the stimulus bill or a holdover from GWB?
 
How does she deal with the fact that Obama seems to undermine her efforts?

She is smart enough to know that Obama is a corporate whore and seems to be using her because she oozes intelligence and integrity.
 
The Tea partiers are simply anti-government bigots, nothing more. These types are everywhere here in Texas. They are what used to be called "cop haters." I'm sure if the teabaggers had their way, government workers would be forced to wear armbands and children expressing an interest in politics would be placed in therapy.
 
MARCY KAPTUR: ... wouldn't you think, with the largest financial crisis in American history, in the largest transfer of wealth from the American people to the biggest banks in this country, that every committee of Congress would be involved in hearings, that this would be on the news, that people would be engaged in this. What we're seeing is-- tangential hearings on very arcane aspects of financial reform. For example, now we're going to have a consumer protection agency to help the poor consumer, who doesn't understand all of this, rather than hearings on the fundamental new architecture of reforming the American financial system, so that we have prudent lending, capital accumulation at the local level again; that we encourage savings and limit debt by the American people. Our country needs this. Those aren't the hearings that are happening.

If you want a marker at the Federal level of how serious we are to get justice out of this financial crisis, look at the F.B.I. Look at the number of people who are really prosecuting and investigation mortgage fraud and securities fraud. It is so small

I've been one of the Members of Congress trying to increase by ten times the agents to get at the justice issues for the American people. For companies that have been hurt. For shareholders that have been hurt. Our government isn't doing it. That it's very easy to look at the budget of the F.B.I. in mortgage fraud and securities fraud and say, 'How serious is the government?' And until those numbers increase, we will not begin to get justice.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10092009/watch.html
 
Joe Cassano has a perfect right to discriminate against women based on their looks. Ugly hires at AIG? I think not. Mr. Testosterone has his standards!

http://tkcollier.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/joe-cassano-the-guy-who-sank-aig/
 
It would be great if Warren's commission was actually given some teeth, but I highly doubt it.

Elizabeth Warren reminds me of Brooksley Born, and Obama still has the sexist team players Geithner and Summers.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/interviews/born.html
 
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Wednesday, February 24, 2010

Who will be the man on the white horse?

In this post, myiq2xu links to yet another article indicating that Wall Street has shifted from backing Obama to backing Republicans. This, no doubt, is a tactic designed to weaken proposed new regulations: "If you try to pass new laws reigning us in, we'll turn off the money spigot."

Myiq adds this parenthetical comment:
I’m guessing the next media darling won’t be a Democrat either
That barb got me thinking. Who will play that role? Who will be trumpeted as the man on the white horse? Who will be the focus of innumerable planted press stories designed to transform a mere pol into the stuff of myth?

Republicans dig Messiahs. That's why some of us were so pissed off by the cult of personality that grew up around Obama in 2008: Such cults are usually a Republican thing.

Reagan became the officially designated White Horse Guy (WHG) circa 1979. Throughout 1993 and 1994, it was clear that there was a behind-the-scenes decision to make Newt Gingrich the WHG. Fortunately for democracy, his negatives -- especially all of those stories about how he treated women -- knocked him out of the saddle.

GHWB, Bob Dole and John McCain were mere political candidates. They were not White Horse Guys, although one of them became a White House resident.

Dubya, I would say, functioned as a WHG for a long time, especially within the Jesusland alternative media. But he assumed that role only after the election; in 2000, he was just a candidate. His is an interesting case study, since he achieved mythic status (for a certain proportion of the population) only after 9/11. The "Mission Accomplished" photo op was a classic example of how Republican propaganda can transform a mere politician into a WHG.

There were a few desultory stabs at turning AH-nuld into a WHG, but that was never going to go anywhere. Right now, Huckabee has WHG potential for the wacko rightists. Romney? No way.

Who else?
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Pawlenty.

It won't be Jeb Bush, his brother ruined the family name.

The lunatic fringe of the GOP (aka "the base") is already turning on Scott Brown for not being pure enough.

Jindal needs a charisma transplant, Huckabee and Paul are nutjobs, the media hates Palin and Gingrich has too much baggage.

Of course if you listen to the media Palin is the only person running.

BTW - remember when most Republicans were sane?
 
Interesting that you should mention Pawlenty, myiq. I just came across this story...

http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?z=12&a=440432

"Near the end of the 2009 legislative session, one of Gov. Pawlenty's budget cutting measures was to eliminate funding for the General Assistance Medical Care program (GAMC), a plan that provided health care coverage for the poorest and sickest Minnesotans.

"This population makes less than $8,000 a year, with most actually making under $3,000 a year. Almost 80 percent suffer from mental illness, chemical dependency or chronic disease, hundreds are homeless, and 8,000 GAMC recipients are veterans who have served our country.

"What many people may not realize is that this veto was also a cut in payments to hospitals, and a subsequent increase in the cost of insurance premiums and health care for everyone, higher property taxes, and a loss of jobs."

Yep, looks like Pawlenty may be the One.
 
With all due respect: No way. I live in MN and I can tell you--Pawlenty's a dweeb. No way is he the next Repug messiah. He doesn't even have a chin to speak of.

Yeah, he's cutting programs right and left here in MN, and sticking it to the underprivileged, saying all the things the Repugs want to hear...but you can tell his heart's not in it. It's all for show. Especially the newfound evangelism.

If you're looking for someone with legs--look no further than Michelle Bachmann...
 
Usually a rightwing thing? Naderites. Kucinich nutcases. Even arguably Larouchies.

The only common thread is that they ALL benefit the right wing. But the lefties, especially the YOUNG BONEHEADED ones, are just as susceptible.

And after the last election fiasco, that "man" on the white horse may well be a woman.
 
It seems that still many don't get the point that we don't have two different parties. There is only one and it was bought out a long time ago. I heard about it in the mid 90's.

But who will be man on the White Horse will only be someone who has been working on stopping the White House Coup. I'm sure this person, who ever they are will be running under the radar until it's time for them to pop out of a cake.

Thus it's concievable that when the Coup is stopped so will all the insanity with what the Banks have been doing.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
 
Scott Brown


Lonni
 
Okay - I hate to disagree with the resident blogger...but I vote for Romeny. The mormon thing is problem for the jesusland loons - but they will be told to sit down, shut up and stuff envelopes after another year of double digit unemployment. Many will do just that. In 2011, look for a brief period of 'mormon normalization' in the media - like Obama/Wright but one with more finesse.
Wapo already called him the GOP frontrunner AFTER Paul won the CPAC straw vote. He, and his 'perfect' family, and his 'pro business' bonifides as a GOV (in Mass, no less) and as the head of the Salt Lake City winter olympics are both the ponies the Wall Street P.R. men will ride to sell the man. He will be the 'competent' savior of good old fashioned (read: white) American values. The middle won't show up for Palin and wall street knows it. romeny has legs in Michigan too. Romeny will get the south, mormonism and all if the other choice is Obama. He can also win Ohio, Indiana, and maybe PA. He peals away Nevada, New Hampshire and Florida if the economy is still bad.
Look for Romeny/McDonnell or Whitman on the off chance Brown doesn't eat her up and spit her out in California this year - and she manages to win. But romeny doesn't need CA.
 
Colin Powell? Oliver North? G.Gordon Liddy? Charleton Heston? (tho being dead may be a disadvantage?)

Huckabee HalfTruth? Oh, no. Too bad Mark Sanford screwed up or he would be right in there.

No one has charisma of Palin or Clinton, so I'll guess we will just have to turn to Hollywood.
 
JEB!!!
 
Mike Rounds. They can build the myth around an empty suit.
 
Since of late, "star power" seems to trump experience.....it's really scary that even after 2008 this trend may continue to give us a POTUS who is still just an empty suit.

Anyone think Mike Bloomberg will throw his hat in the ring? (My personal opinion on that would be ugh!)
 
White Horse Guy?

Are you kidding?

They killed off the white horse. They got nothing to ride in on.

The other Bob
 
@Lonni - The right wingers have already declared Scott Brown to be a traitor for voting to end debate on the jobs bill.

I read that Pawlenty seemed to be trying out for the 'man on the white horse' role at CPAC. But, it has been rumored for a long time that Petraeus has political ambitions, though his stance on torture might prevent him from being drafted by the Republicans.
 
I say it's an un-predictable personality. After all, Obama rose to prominence between the 2003-4 IL Senate race / Keynote address to the 2008 Presidential winner. He's still got a few years' usefulness an an illustration... then in '12 or '16 it'll be nice & ripe.
 
myiq I tend to agree with you about Jeb but I just had a nasty conversation with some 70 year old co-workers who think Cheney is the greatest and Obama is the devil. They were openly calling for the man's assassination and completely forgot all the horrible things Bush and Chaney did including the engineering the bailouts, bankrupting the country and lying so they could invade a country that now has over 500,000 dead. If these people think Chaney is a hero and Obama is the devil then I see no hope in this country. The propaganda has been so bad for so long that the populace will vote for whoever they are told to vote for.
 
David Petraeus. If he decides to run. And I'd vote for him, no matter which party he joins.
 
No one mentioned Palin, she is the darling of tne anti-choice, relgious neo-con crowd. Not a good choice IMHO, but a choice.
 
Brown is a traitor to republicans this week, next week might be a different story after Faux Spews tells them who to cheer and who to jeer.
One bit of information I heard tonite on the drive home. Arlen Specter has a big lead on Joe Sestak in the PA Dem primary. The same poll has republican Pat Loony Toomey wining over Specter in the general. Also Obama is losing the youth vote.
 
Gotta go with Jeb. The rehabilitation of the family name can't cost all that much.
 
An interesting WHG would be Rep McCotter.

Completely out of left field (no pun intended) so no baggage like the other big name GOPers, has FoxNews creds for the base, and can actually think on his feet so debates against Obama would be fun to watch.
 
It is going to be Palin.

She is the anti Obama-every characteristic he has she has in reverse but in a way that makes her formidable.

The democratic party seem intents on destroying itself by attacking Palin; everyday their overblown and at times crazy insults have allowed her to stay in the news and grow and grow like a a modern day 50 foot woman.

If she runs against Obama I'm sure she will win. It will end up being a contest on values and she will win easily with most of the public. Her lack of brain power is going to stop being an issue after 4 years of the brainiac in chief driving us into the ground.

If however Hillary runs-she may win. During the primary I saw a lot of republicans I knew who absolutely hated her turn and start to respect her. She could keep enough independents to win.

I can not imagine Obama being reelected at this point-he won't have money, he wont have his fairy tale, and he won't have the liberal creative class anymore. In November after the crushing losses, the party will turn on him-his foolish aides will be sent away-and he will become a puppet to Congress.

The spooky thing is I think the Clintons saw this over a year ago. Hillary's move to Secretary of State makes sense now. Those two deserve to be back in the White House-there is no one in Washington that is close to being their equal.
 
It'll be Jeb Bush. You heard it here first.
 
The latest WHG maybe Marco Rubio. They seem to be fluffing up his image in Florida as the new guy on the block. Should he win Florida, and the chances are he will, look to him as their Knight in Shining Armor. Young, Cuban, squeaky clean.

And it won't be Palin. Things haven' reached that level of vapidity yet.
 
No Palin chances.

70% of the population pegs her as unqualified, however otherwise attractive personally or as a candidate. A deathknell, especially when 51% or a little more of THE GOP says shes unqualified.

Far worse than a job approval number that bad (which would also be a deathknell, of course), an UNQUALIFIED number of any size, let alone that huge size, means the GOP won't give her the nomination.

Unless she starts barking in tongues and exhibits possession trance prophecy-- then perhaps.

XI
 
Jeb!Bush?
Noelle Bush will find Jesus and turn her life around ala Uncle George. The print and broadcast media will disappear the rest of the ne'er do wells in the family and Jeb! will sail into the White House.
Why?
I think there are some in the media that get a perverse pleasure out of making to voting puppets dance. It's a game of Who Can We Get Elected Next with each candidate being worse than the one before.
 
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. - Revelation 6:2
 
For once, I agree with XI--Palin is dead in the water and the GOP will soon make a serious attempt to eradicate her already shaky image.

I'm almost afraid to post the person I think will be the Republican nominee next time around. Mostly because I don't want to jinx it. I want that sad, pitiful, faux-moderate POS to get nominated and get flattened. Hints: he's just made a bizarre shift in favor of gay rights, he's in a position to claim he's both leftish independent but conservative on most issues and is sternly, indefatigably pro-Israel.

I don't see how they can make him into WHG, but that's mostly because I don't think they'll be attempting that next time (too difficult).

May he crash and burn in '12.
 
I agree with Perry that it will be Jeb. Once the Republicans have finished pinning all of Bush's failures on Obama, with Obama's help, Jeb will arise and lead the Republicans to the Promised Land.

It's only a matter of time.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
As insane as it sounds...

I gotta go with Jeb.

Old money, old connections, and he's been rather low key as of late. When is the last time he's made any noise?

*pause for google search, THIS is scary!!!*

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/106737/Jeb_Bush_Dissing_Sarah_Palin

Published today.

Yep, Jeb. I guess the rehabilitation starts now?
 
Oh. Jeb HAS been making some noise lately.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/83386.html

This from January.

The capper came Thursday when, at the top of the 7 o'clock hour, right after Vice President Joe Biden, Bush made a rare network television appearance on NBC's Today Show. The intensely private Bush's interview with the overly familiar Matt Lauer rattled Florida political circles.

Was this the beginning of a Jeb juggernaut that would culminate in a 2012 presidential bid?

``My wife called me immediately and said he looked presidential,'' said Thrasher, who as the former House speaker helped Bush lay down his agenda. ``I said, `Who knows? We'll see.' I'm ready to go to Iowa any time he's ready.''

Bush's comments about Crist's support for President Barack Obama's economic stimulus plan got the most attention, but his call for Democrats and Republicans to work together was the biggest clue to his national ambitions.

 
It's Jeb Bush. It's always been Jeb Bush. By the time 2012 rolls around Americans are going to vote for anyone but Obama. Palin and Brown might have the charisma to give Jeb a run for his money but they'll both get the smear treatment to put them out of contention.

And this has always been the plan. It's why Obama was installed. The only hope America has is if the Democratic Party finds a backbone and gives Hillary the nomination in 2012. But we all know full well that ain't gonna happen.
 
It's going too be Palin.

You have to look at where she was a year ago and where she is now and ignore her aw shucks acting to see that she is growing in power on a daily basis.

She is someone who should have faded away after the pres election. The full force of the democratic party was turned on her, the full force of the media was turned on her, all the blogs relentlessly attacked her-at best she should have limped away to Alaska and hidden.

Instead she seems to not mind much and has grown stronger and stronger politically.

There is something extremely unusual about her. If the dems had any brain power left they would pull her into the party by offering her an ambassadorship or something to try an deflect her course.

But they won't.
 
It's already obvious. Haley Barbour.

Wait and see.

By the way, if Barbour doesn't run for president (like he didn't run for 2008) it's a sure sign that the brains and insiders in the GOP view Obama as unbeatable.
 
It will be Sarah -- a few years in the Fox echo chamber will iron out those kinks in the delivery (sometimes hallucinatory in their disconnect from Planet Earth). She's got a kind of post-modern Sally Field look, enough physical grace as befits a star high school athlete and will race a boatload of bucks. Team O will take her for granted the way Gore took W until it was too late.
 
Ssnowflake, Palin is just tooo stupid, too lazy, too selfish to be able to withstand a long drawn out run. You see what you see, and I see what I see, but your view smacks of some teabagger simpathy from where I sit.
 
The Tea Party movement is a groundswell of grassroots discontent with Obama and politics in general. They deserve sympathy.I find the endless attempts to make them all look like fools to be tedious and usually rooted in class prejudice.

There has been a great disconnect in the past 40 years in the democratic party between the working class democrats and the wealthy democrats. The ultimate expression of this was in the Obama campaign where 20 year old yuppie trash attacked the working class mocking their values, their lack of education, and their lack of wealth and sophistication.

Part of the revulsion I feel for the Obama crowd is that the people the party was formed to protect were turned into figures of fun to be mocked and derided and herded like cattle to vote for their new chosen one-a man so superior to them that they simply could not be expected to understand him.

Well guess what-he is about as superior as a flat tire. And the people who gushed over him with such heated fervor are the ones who should now be mocked and derided.

So yes I do have sympathy for the "tea party" crowd and what has been done to them.

I suspect that Palin does as well which is why she embraced them. I think that she sees that damage the democratic party did to itself by attacking them, and I think she is exploiting the divide and that she has made herself more powerful by meeting with them.


But perhaps I am wrong. :)
 
And let's not forget: the Repubs still have their vote-flipping software and other electoral tomfoolery. Jeb will not be democratly* elected.

*adverb form of democrat, cf. "Democrat Party."
 
And let's not forget: the Repubs still have their vote-flipping software and other electoral tomfoolery.
For more on their shenigans go to:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/diebold-PRmachine.pdf
 
snowflake,
I do not doubt that Palin would gladly take advantage of any opportunity that presents itself to her. As for Dems, I see three groups. The first group like Joseph saw through Obama before he was elected. The second group (like me)hoped Obama would not turn out as the first group predicted. The third group still hopes that he will after an initial period prove to be all they hope him to be. I assume that the first and second group are disappointed because Obama has shown himself to be far to the right of principles of Liberalism they believe in. They must also have had some political awareness to have contemplated Obama's shortcomings and not fallen readily for the talking points. If so, how can these same people, however disappointed, fall for the teaparty charade and the phony Palin whose principles I assume they abhore. The third group has not yet turned on Obama, therefore can not be under the Palin spell and if they do turn against him, they may still escape the trap if only because of their own vanity.
I assume then that there must be a fourth group of Dems who are susceptible to Palin charm. Tell me about them please.
 
H/T Post Partisan Examiner

Thune/Ryan 2012
 
I knew you were an Obama supporter.

No offense, but I divide things up differently.

There are 3 kinds of dems- true believers, self interested dems, and narcissistic dems.

Narcissistic dems are dems who are democratic because it allows them to feel they are superior. They generally are rich, generally don't do much to help people, but they love to flap their jaws about how wonderful they are because they are liberal dems. They all voted for Obama.

Self interested dems tend to be poorer and less educated and vote democratic because historically the party tried to make sure that they were not abused.

True believers which includes me, perhaps joseph and I think a lot of the Hillary die hards, are people who genuinely believe in the historical principals of the democratic party, are not concerned whether they personally benefit but instead want to see justice prevail and are unswerving in their support of the common good.

Palin is seeking to exploit the fissure in the party the narcissistic dems created during the primary when they beat the self interested dems into submission and forced them to support Obama. She is succeeding.

The true believers are responding in different ways but the consensus that seems to be forming is that the narcissistic dems should lose their voice in the party-at least for the time being.

They are accomplishing this by directly undermining democratic candidates all over the country or withholding support and allowing the republicans to destroy them. The goal seems to be to silence the narcissistic dems once and for all by humiliating completely.

That's how I see it-but what do I know -I'm just a snowflake.
 
Historical principals =historic principles in snowflake talk-ooops

Just before the grammar police come to get me...
 
snowflake,
If we are going the "historic" route, I only see two groups.
The "HAVEs" and the "HAVE NOTs"(middle class being a recent addition) and this goes way beyond the Democratic and the Republican parties and US history. Liberalism to me then is the struggle to abolish any and all undo advantage given to one group over the other. Liberals then are (adopting your grouping) either self interested HAVE NOTs or principalist HAVEs because if you are a true believer of principals of Liberalism and belong to the HAVEs, you either give up your ill begotten advantage or suffer from cognitive dissonance and this latter group is what you call the narcissists. I call them self intersted HAVEs that use yet another ploy to secure their advantage.
Now back to reality. The fact is that propaganda (as Joseph has mentioned in a recent post) has played a major role in forming people's opinion of Liberalism and Conservatism. The middle class (depending on which end of the spectrum) may identify itself with the HAVEs or the HAVE NOTs. Religion has been hijacked by the HAVEs. Lines have blurred and people no longer understand ideologies or even self interest.
My point is:
I abhore and have no sympathy for Teabaggers who should be Liberals and yet are letting themseles be used as a pun to further the HAVEs interests as much as you abhore and have no sympathy for what you call the "narcissist Dems" for pretending to be Liberals. Furthermore, I see Sarah Palin as an opportunist who is using the ignorance of the people to pull herself up and attach herself to the HAVEs by using any and every trick possible including exploiting the less than logical anger of the "true believers" as you call them toward a sub group inside the Democratic Party to hand the country over to the HAVEs once and for all. To be sure there is disaapointment in the Democratic Party and self evaluation is called for but I rather drive a car with a big dent in it than go back to a bicycle.
As you always say-I may be wrong but I am willing to be educated.
 
BTW, if self interested Dems were fooled by the narcissists to vote for Obama and now are being manipulated by Palin to vote for Repubs, I would change the description from "self interested Dems" to "fools". And what responsibility falls on the shoulders of "true Believers"? Why not help the enemy without destroy the enemy within istead of handing the front door key to the enemy?
 
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The end of civilization in America

Thirty years ago, Friedmanism replaced Keynesianism. Thirty years ago, we were the most prosperous nation on earth. And now...well, this story speaks for itself.
Here's a list of the top 10 industries expected to lose the most jobs by 2018 -- and what to do if you're working in one of them:

1. Department stores: Projected to lose 10.2 percent of the 1.56 million jobs they had in 2008.
2. Semiconductor manufacturing: Projected to lose 33.7 percent of the 432,000 jobs it had in 2008.

3. Motor vehicle parts manufacturing: Projected to lose 18.6 percent of its 544,000 jobs.

4. Postal service: Projected to lose 13 percent of the 748,000 jobs it had in 2008.

5. Printing and related jobs: Projected to lose 16 percent of its 594,000 jobs.

6. Cut-and-sew apparel manufacturing: Projected to lose 57 percent of its 155,000 jobs.

7. Newspaper publishers: Projected to lose 24.8 percent of its 326,000 jobs.

8. Mining support jobs: Projected to lose 23.2 percent of its 328,000 jobs.

9. Gas stations: Projected to lose 8.9 percent of its 843,000 jobs.

10. Wired telecom: Projected to lose 11 percent of its 666,000 jobs.
Because so many different types of manufacturing jobs are disappearing, it will not be easy to simply get another manufacturing job. You may need to develop some completely new skills.
To do what?

I'm beginning to think that it's no wonder the Republicans have made the Socialist bogeyman into a hot issue. Although Barack Obama is no socialist, events will soon convince many that laissez-faire capitalism has failed. If things do not improve, the spirit of rebellion will awaken. If our incessantly propagandized populace continues to view socialism as the Great Unthinkable, then what form will the coming rebellion take?

As long as we're talking big picture stuff: At the CPAC conference, conservative superstars had no qualms about lumping liberals and progressives in with Stalinists. Believe it or not, the right considers the ghost of Uncle Joe to be a very real danger. Yet if a liberal brings up the threat of resurgent fascism -- a far likelier threat -- said liberal will be disparaged as a sensationalist, a hyperbolic silly-billy, and a shameless violator of Godwin's law.

And that's why the Overton Window is so far to the right.
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Friedmanism, and the whole Republican Revolution, have taught us that government is the only solution to the problems we created by treating government as the problem.

I agree America is poised to descend into fascism--apparently because progressives can't tell a Democrat from a neocon.

But I doubt the current crop of right-wingers can bring it off. They've got the Nazi spirit, all right. But they completely lack the balls and brains of real Nazis.
 
What people don't realize is every person we "educate" with a college degree will perform an iceberg type of job in which for them to poke their head above water, there needs to be 5 "less educated" people creating the products and services they require to do their job, below the surface.

And yet, the person with the educated job is actually in the business of downsizing the amount of jobs beneath the surface as justification for keeping their own job.

A messy situation to say the least.
 
Uncle Joe?

The guy from Petticoat Junction?
 
Perry, that is the most cheery thing I have heard anyone say this year.

I love that idea.
 
Fascism gained a stranglehold because it created jobs during a time of economic depression, and made the (majority) of the people feel like they counted (at the expense of the minority). It isn't neo-fascism we have to worry about, it's neo-feudalism.
 
"The end of civilization in America"
Your title suggests that at one time we were civilized.
 
Dick "I Dare You To Charge Me For War Crimes" Cheney would probably disagree.

And since the Obama DOJ has given the free pass to Yoo and Baybee, neo-cons are probably feeling froggier that ever.
 
What Perry said. with Dead Eye Darth the five time draft dodger being a prime example of sans cajones.
 
tell me, progos--are the anti-war, anti-Israel Buchananites and Paulites going to be leaders of or jailed by "neofascism?" we understand one Paul "critic" above might "turn" collaborator & help the "neofascists" jail one of the factions.
 
My fear is that.. when an economic collapse comes to America (which seems increasingly likely)... all the rhetoric against socialism and liberalism (and immigrants and non-christians and fill-in-the-blank) will begin to pay off in a big way for the latest incarnation of fascism. The seeds have been sown for quite a long time, and if things get ugly they may begin to sprout and flourish more quickly than anyone expected.

As an aside, does Godwin's law apply when explicitly discussing fascism? It'd be nice to see it's legalese representation so I where the line of transgression lies.
 
When the shelves in the supermarkets are empty, most Americans will flock to - and support - whoever sets up the bread line.

Nobody wil give a damn who's in Washington pontificating. Their interests will be strictly local, tied directly to whoever provides food and shelter.

It's alweays been that way. It will be no different this time.
 
Let me help the confused. If there is total economic collapse in America, there will be long term unrest, anarchy and state devolution. Gradually there will emerge ethnonationalism on a regional basis. The Moslem world in particular will be glad Euro Americans have to start over, perhaps from Idaho.
 
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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Saudi Arabia, FOX News and the search for Osama Bin Laden

The always-interesting Joseph Trento offered up a must-read piece earlier this month. The subject is Fox News, and its noteworthy major investor: Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the nephew to the Saudi king.

Forbes lists the Prince as the 22nd richest person in the world. He also owns large chunks of AOL, Apple and MCI -- not to mention a famous yacht which once belonged to Adnan Khashoggi. (You may have seen this vessel in the film Never Say Never Again.) None of these investments are as unnerving as Prince Alwaleed's major stake in Fox. Murdoch's News Corp. also owns a large chunk of the Prince's Saudi media conglomerate, Rotana.

As you will recall, this same Prince had, back in 2001, offered $10 million to 9/11 relief efforts, only to be spurned -- loudly and obstreperously -- by Rudolf Guiliani, who thereby garnered some welcome publicity. (The Prince, even as he offered the donation, had said harsh words about Israel.)

It's interesting to note how times have changed. I don't think that any of today's leading Republicans would try to score political points by getting into a public tiff with a member of the Saudi royal family.

That said, there are those within the conservative movement who view the Fox-Saudi alliance with alarm. One person sounding the alarm is Joseph Farah, of the ultra-right WorldNet Daily. He is, of course, a Fox competitor. (He is also a long-term resident of Planet Loopy.) Keep his possible bias in mind as you ponder his words about the Prince:
Well this guy owns a very significant percentage of the News Corp and has let the world know that he can get things taken off Fox News when he finds them objectionable and has in the past. And I really believe this is really dangerous for America.
Fox will tell you, of course, that Prince Alwaleed does not determine news content. Joseph Trento has a differing opinion.

Trento had appeared on Fox, where he was interviewed by Steve Doocy. Trento was surprised to learn that clips of his commentary did not appear on the Fox website, as had previously been the case.
It was not until a few days later that I learned what may have been behind the absence of a video clip on the Web site. I had said to Doocy that Saudi Arabian money was still financing Al Qaeda.
Much of Trento's article takes a pro-Israel stance which I don't share. That doesn't concern me at the moment. Right now, I'm looking for the answers to three very basic questions:

1. All of the well-known Fox on-air personalities are, of course, staunchly supportive of Israel. Yet the network is largely owned by a Saudi prince. Can anyone explain this situation to me?

2. What would the right-wing propaganda infrastructure have said if someone like the Prince had heavily invested in Air America or MSNBC? Why are such financial linkages permitted on the right but not on the left?

3. Is it true that Saudi money still funds Al Qaeda, as Trento claims? (He has good sources.) If so, just what is Al Qaeda?

In light of question #3, I would like to divulge and discuss a claim given to me in private some weeks back: Osama Bin Laden is alive and well and living in Saudi Arabia.

My source made this startling assertion in the wake of the December 6, 2009 Cannonfire post, "Where is Osama Bin Laden?" That piece quotes then-CIA Director Porter Goss as saying (in 2005) that he had "an excellent idea" where Osama is. He further offered these barely-scrutable words:
But when you go to the very difficult question of dealing with sanctuaries in sovereign states, you're dealing with a problem of our sense of international obligation, fair play.
Just about everyone, including myself, took this as a reference to Pakistan. But what if Goss meant Saudi Arabia?

More recently, Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said that he has no idea where Osama Bin Laden is, and that he has had no good intelligence on that matter for years.

So, how reliable is the Osama-in-Saudia Arabia assertion? Frankly, I'm not sure.

I trust my source, a person involved with the film community. My source, in turn, learned of Osama's whereabouts from a friend who, until rather recently, worked for a non-American -- but friendly -- intelligence service. Apparently, the former operative blurted out this revelation while in a heated conversation with (of all people) Michael Moore. The former operative said that he knew to an absolute certainty that Osama Bin Laden was living in Saudi Arabia.

I know no more.

Obviously, you should not accept such a statement without verification. However, do ponder the idea. Keep it in mind as you weigh future news stories which discuss Bin Laden's fate. Today's single-source claim may turn into tomorrow's multi-sourced fact.

And as you ponder, consider also that fundamental question, a question which we shall address in future posts: What is Al Qaeda?

(Postscript: Experience has taught me that this topic tends to send some readers straight into Annoying Personage mode. Please do not harrumph and guffaw as you tell me: "Osama is dead. Don't you know that, Cannon?" No, I do not know that, and neither do you. I also do not know that he is alive. Surmise and opinion are fine, but don't mistake them for agreed-upon facts.)
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"1. All of the well-known Fox on-air personalities are, of course, staunchly supportive of Israel. Yet the network is largely owned by a Saudi prince. Can anyone explain this situation to me?"

Saudi Arabia has been pulling the strings in the neo-con takeover of everything since the very beginning.

Their desire was to support a U.S. led military restructuring of the Middle East, which would eventually lead to an attempt to destroy Iran. Israel is being set up to be both the justification for the war with Iran, as well as its fall guy. The Saudis/neo-cons have sold their Iran invasion plans to the Israelis as something necessary to protect Israel, but if the putative war goes south, they will conveniently blame Israel for "forcing" the attack(s), relying on anti-Israel sentiment to make the scapegoating stick.
 
As crazy as it sounds, look to "The Family" as to why the Fox talking heads "support" Israel. The conspirators behind this organization has in its sights the "protection" of Israel at its base but is actually interested in bringing an armed conflagration to the Mid East with the end result of having complete access to the oil supplies.

Their One World domination, led by one Christian leader is no secret within that community. They are not a friend to Israel but are setting up a course of action using them as the straw man according to their doctrine.
 
Well, just because they are Arabs doesn't make them stupid. The world has poured oceans of oil money into their coffers and it looks like they may have used it wisely.

If the Saudis want to keep the Israel-loving FOX Anchors on the air it can only be because they believe it to be in their long-term advantage.

There are more pieces moving on this chess board than any of us realize.

Nixon - for all his zits - did make one valid observation when he stated that "The odds for Israel's long term survival are zero".
 
-The answer to question #2 is: People on the Right have always been hypocrites. So, this is just another instance of hypocrisy plain and simple.
-The US government does not want a stable and democratic Middle East, therefore, Saddam before and Bin Laden and Ahmadinejad now on the one side and Israel on the other are needed as ready excuses for destabilization. The Saudi Government also needs the same instibility in the region to survive, therefore, it backs the US policy in the region. The aim of US policy in the Middle East is not much different than the aim of domestic policy persued by NeoCons at home. That is to creat deep divisions among citizens, creat fear of others, disrupt economic prosperity, undermine the rule of law and prevent the formation of democratic governance.
 
just what is Al Qaeda?

a wholly owned subsidiary of the company and has been since the early 80's at least...who owns the company? there you have me....but it comes down to .99999999999 of the earth's population. That much we know
 
The Saudi government or the Saudi royals? Or are they one and the same?
Deflect the hatred toward Israel and the unwashed won't notice how they are being screwed.
So like republicans scapegoating minorities here so the Baggers don't notice the hosing.
 
Did you see the 60 minutes piece on the Bloom Box?

If the energy supply is no longer dependent on the middle east quite a lot would change.
 
"The odds for Israel's long term survival are zero" [Nixon]

That's an interesting quote but I've never heard of it before. Any source you can provide for that? Nixon tapes, or what? (Teh Google led back to this thread only, sfaik.)

Re: the Saudis. It is a very convoluted subject. Supposedly al Qaeda has the Saudis in their sights as much as any other party, yet the government and the royals support them??!?!

My opinion is that the Saudis fund these groups with impunity from us, because they do it for us, as part of the several generations' long secret deal. Just as the large majority of the alleged hijackers were from SA, but we did not attack SA. Although some high level royals all met early deaths semi-simultaneously in the wake of that event.

XI
 
Eh.

Bloom Boxes run on fossil fuels.

So in areas where natural gas is scarce or otherwise not feasible "heating oil" would work.

And I like my cheap plastic goods so oil isn't going anywhere.
 
I've thought about your question re: Fox & the Saudis, and my take on it is that, when all is said and done, Money doesn't have politics beyond what will serve the making of More Money. Political ideologies are transitory things, shifting with the breezes of where More Money can be made by great pools of pre-existing Money. Once you're dealing with boardrooms, corporations, stockholders... Money (and it's demand for More) exerts it's own influence on the trajectory of business plans and operations regardless of the individuals who may be making decisions on any particular day.

I think the Saudi money in Newscorp is viewed - understandably - as a wise long-term investment by it's investors. Your degrees of separation - Right Israel, Right Fox News, Israel and Saudi Arabia are enemies, Saudi invests in Fox News - it's too much context for the typical Fox News viewer to process into cognitive dissonance.

While I've hardly ever exposed myself to Fox News (or any cable news) beyond The Daily Show clips the occasional web page embed, I don't get the impression that they spend a lot of time harping on tensions between Saudi Arabia and Israel, or SA's involvement with funding terrorism/wahhabism/whathaveyou, or their atrocious human rights records, gender inequality, etc...

Most of the time Middle East issues are covered on television news it's about A: Iraq (particularly US involvement & interests), B: Iran (questionable elections, supporters of terrorism, meddlers in Iraq and natch, BS nuclear weapons ambitions), or C: Israel (which often relates back to Iran, or failing that props up it's perception as a bulwark of civilization amidst barbaric arabs). Tell me if I'm wrong... and tell me if I'm wrong that Saudi Arabia's animus with Israel is not an oft-covered topic on Fox News.

While that doesn't lead to a conclusion of financial leverage resulting in news censorship or management, it never does, be it the House of Saud, Israel, Wall Street, the health insurance/pharma industries, or anyone other group or organization with the money and will to throw their weight around.
 
P.S. - I think your question "What is Al-Qaeda" is much more interesting and is one that deserves attention.
 
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Monday, February 22, 2010

Is it safe? Yes.

I usually save the non-political posts for the weekends. But right now, I would like to pass along a life-saving tip -- one with no political implications whatsoever.

Over the past week, I've had to deal with a major toothache, accompanied by a major lack of cash: There was enough moolah to yank the tooth, but not enough for anything fancy like a root canal. I really want to save this tooth, or at least keep it in my head until I have sufficient cash to deal with it properly.

Now, you can't walk into the doctor and ask "Will you just write me some scrip for a goddamned opiate-based pain reliever?" The doc will take that as an indication that you're looking for happy pills, even if he can see clear signs of inflammation. Nowadays, even if you are obviously in severe pain, most dentists will simply prescribe ibuprofin, which is available over the goddamn counter.

So I scoured the internet looking for every home remedy and OTC treatment available. They all ranged from ineffectual to sorta-kinda-semi-effectual. None of them did the trick: Not Ambusol, not cloves, not gargling with salt water, not vanilla (although that one did help more than most of the others), not apple cider vinegar (although that worked even better than vanilla did).

At last, I found the answer. Instant relief. Root canal in a bottle. A doorway out of Hell.

Peppermint extract.

It is strong. It smells foul. The fumes will annoy your housemates. But daub some extract on the affected tooth with a Q-tip, then place a few drops -- no more -- on your tongue and swirl the liquid around the throbbing side of your mouth. Soon, you'll be feeling no pain.

I'm not kidding. You never know when you'll have to suffer through a really bad night. That's why you need an emergency supply of peppermint extract in your house. Combine that stuff with about 1000 mg of Ibuprofin, some Aspirin and some Naproxen, and you just might regain your humanity.

Of course, if we had a Euro-style health system, we wouldn't need to worry so much about home remedies. I guess this is a political post after all.
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are we talking peppermint extract as in the baking section of the supermarket, or the homeopathic section of a vitamin store?

Barbara
 
You can sometimes get low-cost dental treatment at a dental college.
 
Sorry for a possible double post, I think I forgot to hit the publish bar.
The Canadian system covers health care dental and vision insurance is usually picked up, all or in part, by the employer.
I'm not sure how much is covered in the U K or on the continent.
There's the rub, if we had a real print and broadcast media instead of the shills at Fox and the toady clowns at MSNBC we would know how it's done over seas.
The one thing I do know is that the citizens of the countries that have a single payer or national system look at health care as a right for all and not just the moneyed elite.
 
CLOVES?!?

You been watching "Marathon Man?"
 
Naproxen is not recommended for use with NSAIDs of the salicylate family (Aspirin) (drugs may reduce each other's effects) or with anticoagulants (may increase risk of bleeding).

1000 mg is a frigging overdose specially if combined with the other ones. 400 mg ibuprofen every 4 hours is sufficient (don't exceed that dose within 24 hours). Avoid aspirin when you're on it (rather take paracetamol), but take 1 mg when the last 4 hours period has waned. Joe, you put a tremendous strain on your liver (whatever you do don't booze at the same time) and risk an internal bleeding in the worst case. Try to disinfect your tooth with 6% oxygenated water or even better with any mouthwash containing an antiseptic like chlorhexidin....

if it doesn't work after 3 days, you're in serious trouble and should seek help anyway.
 
If its a molar, don't bother with the root canal. They often don't take, and even when they do will usually fail 10-15 years later requiring an apicoectomy, or pulling (and they dont' usually bother with apicos, either, because they will always need it again).

Trust me, 20 years ago, I had a RC done. 10 years later, it was failing. One year ago, I had it pulled.

Had I known then, I would've had it yanked.
 
If we had a universal type health care you'd still wait for months before you could get a root canal. Good idea to still keep the peppermint oil around. Especially considering that, at some point, all otc "meds" will likely be regulated and charged off as "drugs" so the pharmaceuticals won't have competition in the drug market.

Lonni
 
Oil of cloves works good too, but probably tastes nastier. Good luck, nothing worse than a toothache, ugh.
 
I HAVE insurance, I pay a lot for it (in terms of my salary) and I'm still having to deal with all those co-payments of crap from last summer's assault. Having private insurance doesn't even free you from being overwhelmed.

When I say I feel your pain, it's both literal as well as empathetic. Right now, I need to go see a doctor but the thought of adding more to that balance just really keeps me home and suffering.
 
If it's infected you might want to get some Amoxicillan. Check out "Fish Mox" on Amazon.
 
Good to know. I had an excruciating tooth problem a while back that needed a root canal. I found that 4 ibuprofen liquid gels on a regular basis eliminated all pain.
 
leloup, 400 mg won't touch the pain. Megadoses can Might as well take nothing. Doctors have told me told me that it is safe to combine ibuprofin and naproxen, but they may have been wrong.

lonnie, you believe a lot of silly things. I used to have a Canadian girlfriend with health issues; I've been up there, have spent a lot of time in Canadian hospitals talking with her doctors and talking with her family ABOUT health care. Don't think for one second that you can scare me. They have a wonderful system.

I do agree though that more drugs should be OTC. The public needs more drug availability and information, not regulation.

Barbara, I'm talking about the baking stuff. I just happened to have a selection of extract bottles which a friend got rid of.
 
Be careful, though, because the infection can kill you if it gets into the bloodstream.

I've used a dental college for years--it's definitely much cheaper. It takes longer because the students are inexperienced, but the teachers are all up on the latest research.

There's a new technique in Britain that grows new teeth. Sounds weird, but ...

Carolyn Kay
www.ManyYearsYoung.com
 
Be careful of the combined total dose of Ibuprofen+Naproxen (+Aspirin). Ibuprofen and Naproxen are in the same chemical class and act via essentially the same mechanism.
NSAID toxicity: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/816117-overview

You’re probably aware of this, but avoid high doses of Acetaminophen. It’s one of the leading causes of OTC mortality (liver failure). Some have even argued for taking it off the OTC market.
Acetaminophen toxicity: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/820200-overview

Seems that for tooth pain, the more effective remedies use some combination of menthol (as in peppermint oil), benzocaine (e.g. Orajel/Anbesol), and eugenol (e.g. Red Cross Toothache Medicine). A lot of people seem to swear by Red Cross (85% eugenol).

I’ve used freshly crushed cloves of garlic (which also has weak antibiotic properties, and seems to help heal oral sores), but I doubt the pain-relieving effect would be strong enough in a case like yours.
 
I would say the same thing [and btw I've become the Queen of dental procedures over the years]--I'm glad you've found something to cut the pain but don't let a badly infected tooth go too long. The infection can spread and be very, very nasty.
 
I had a molar that would send me to the ceiling if I only drew a sharp breath across it. I used Goody's Tooth Powder from Walgreen's. IIRC it's acetaminophin so all the liver damage cautions apply, but it worked. You pour it right on the tooth instead of swallowing it, so it's likely that chewing up a pill would work as well. This worked too well, actually-- I didn't go to the dentist for another year, and by then the tooth was dead and they could do nothing but extract it.
 
Yes, it's safe, very safe. So safe you wouldn't believe it.
 
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Stop it

Note to readers who enjoy offering comments: Nearly all of you have taken to heart the rule about not insulting the proprietor of this blog. However, many recent comments have been marred by readers insulting each other -- harshly and needlessly. In the past, I've tolerated these displays of opprobrium. I will continue to do so to a degree. That degree is smaller now than was previously the case. Some waspish comments have been deleted. If you can't keep it at least somewhat civil, don't be surprised if your words go unpublished.

I, on the other hand, will continue to be my usual asshole self. As Kenneth Mars says in The Producers: "You are za audience! I am za author! I OUTRANK you!"
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Whenever a blog author posts one of these comments, about 50% of your entire community thinks you are singling them out.
 
When you are fun you are very, very fun. But when you are not....
 
50% of your entire community thinks you are singling them out.

And the people it was directed at think he must be talking about someone else.
 
What Allessandro said.

Most of the commenters around here with variable views all bring something interesting to the Party, agreeing to disagree, yada yada. The way I see it, as long as we're all going to Hell in a hand basket and drop in here with our own views on who-what-where-when and why and to compare notes, it's really good to hear the civility rule will be ratcheted up a notch.
 
myiq2xu,

Now that made me spontaneously laugh because it is true and explains my whole life to me.
 
Uh, you talking to me?
 
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Greece: The way

Marshall Auerback has written what I consider the best single piece on the Greek disaster, which is really a carry-over from the American disaster (which is having disastrous consequences: See the chart at left). A few excerpts:
Maybe Greece should secede from the European Union and default on its euro debt? Or go hat-in-hand to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to beg for loans while promising to clean up its act? Or to the stronger Euro nations, hoping for charitable acts of forgiveness? Unfortunately, all of these options are going to mean a lot of pain and suffering for an economy that is already sinking rapidly.
Here’s a more appropriate action: declare war on Goldman Sachs and other global financial firms that created this mess. Send the troops, the planes, the tanks, and the ships. Attack every outpost of the saboteurs on European soil. Blockade the airports and ports. Make Wall Street traders and CEOs fear for their lives, or at least for their freedom to travel. Build some Guantanamo-like facility to hold these enemy financial combatants until they can be tried, convicted, and properly punished.

Ok, if a literal armed attack on Goldman is too far-fetched, then go after the firm using the full force of the regulatory and legal systems. Close the offices and go through the files with a fine-tooth comb. Issue subpoenas to all non-clerical staff for court appearances. Make the internal emails public. Post the names of all managers and traders on Interpol. Arrest anyone who tries to board a plane, train, or boat; confiscate their passports; revoke their visas and work permits; and put a hold on their bank accounts until culpability can be assessed. Make life at least as miserable for them as it now is for Europe’s tens of millions of unemployed workers.
Lest anyone believe that Goldman’s executives were somehow unaware of bad deals done by rogue traders, William Cohan (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/the-great-goldman-sachs-fire-sale -of-2008) reports that top management unloaded their Goldman stocks in March 2008 when Bear crashed, and again when Lehman collapsed in September 2008. Why? Quite simple: they knew the firm was full of toxic waste that it would not be able to continue to unload on suckers—and the only protection it had came from AIG, which it knew to be a bad counterparty.
From 2001 through November 2009 (note the date—a full year after Lehman) Goldman created financial instruments to hide European government debt, for example through currency trades or by pushing debt into the future. But not only did Goldman and other financial firms help and encourage Greece to take on more debt, they also brokered credit default swaps on Greece’s debt—making income on bets that Greece would default.
Of course, as far as Greece goes, the claim now is that these types of off balance sheet transactions in which Goldman and others engaged were not strictly “illegal” under EU law. But these are precisely the kinds of “shadow banking transactions” that almost brought down the global financial system 18 months ago. Literally a year after the Lehman bankruptcy – MONTHS after Goldman itself was saved from total ruin, it was again engaging in these kinds of deals.

And it wasn’t exactly a low-level functionary or “rogue trader” who was carrying out these transactions on behalf of Goldman. Gary Cohn is Lloyd “We’re doing God’s work” Blankfein’s number 2 man. So it’s hard to believe that St. Lloyd did not sanction the activities as well in advance of collecting his “modest” $9m bonus for last year’s work.
Greece, Euroland in general, and the rest of the world all need a holiday from the manipulation and destruction of our economies by Wall Street firms that profit from speculative bubbles, from burying firms, households, and governments under mountains and debt, and even from the crises that they create. Governments all over the globe should use all legal means at their disposal to ferret out the bad faith and even fraudulent deals that global financial behemoths are foisting on us.
Yes, I've quoted far too much. This is not a quote blog, most of the time. But this article strikes me as particularly important, and I encourage you to read the whole thing.

For me, the bottom line comes down to this: Obama won't clamp down on Goldman because Goldman has so thoroughly infiltrated this administration that it is hard to determine where one ends and the other begins. But why haven't any European politicians had the courage to name the enemy and to engage him on the field of battle?
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Being boiled in oil and raw shit would be too kind for these vampires.
 
It seems to me that if anybody is to take on the Vampires of Wall Street it will be a European government, Obama and company aren't about to bite the hand that gave them the tickets to the dance. Forget about the U K they are as corrupt as Washington.
 
The only hope we have is that the E U or a member country goes after these vampires. since Obama and the Democrat party are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Wall Street banksters don't count on anything from them.
 
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Don't you believe in signs?

Heh heh. Just messin' with ya.

(Thanks to That's Me on the Left.)
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Ugh. Evidently, Hawaii is STILL getting requests (40-50 per month) to see Obama's "other" birth certificate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100219/NEWS01/2190362/Hawaii-gets-persistent-requests-for-Obama-birth-certificate

INSANE.
 
You know, he could have dealt with in intelligently. McCain took a copy of his original birth certificate and walked out and handed it to a group of reporters. They saw it. They felt it. They witnessed the embossing. End of story.

Obama, I think, is just amused at the continuing controversy. He thinks he'll whip it out, maybe, at some point and make his critics feel foolish (which they are) but of course, showing it at this point won't diminish the controversy. They'll just claim he could have doctored it now that he's in the White House.

I don't know who is dumber.
 
The state of Hawaii has provided everything it can at this point. I used to work at the Department of Vital Statistics in Honolulu (summer intern, 1972). Back then all the birth certificates were on microfiche and all that could be provided was a certified copy or an affidavit for older records certifying the birth (turn of the century records were just lines in a journal, and it was one of the better parts of my job that I got to research them - but I digress) . It appears they've gone to computerized records and what Obama provided is all that anyone is going to get. I would venture to bet that there is no longer an "original" birth certificate. Anything the hospital may have provided Obama's mother would not be considered a certified document.

But it doesn't matter, because facts are never going to convince these fools. Ever.
 
"I don't know who is dumber."
Well, considering who is looking to be a one termer and is taking several in congress down with him. I'd have to guess it's Obama.
 
Does it even matter where Obama was born? McCain was actually born in Panama to American parents. Therefore, he is a natural born citizen of the U.S. Obama was born in Hawaii to an American woman. Even if he wasn't born in Hawaii he still would be a natural born citizen of the U.S. because his mother was born in Kansas. That is the rule in this country. If you are born here no matter your parent then you are a citizen. If you are born abroad to American parents then you are a citizen. There is no gray area here to debate.
 
Actually, the billboard is correct. Kenya is the birthplace of Barack Obama Sr. Maybe they ran out of space?
 
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Sunday, February 21, 2010

The record, and how to get on it

Today's topic: "How do we get the truth on the record?"

You may think that blogging makes this task easy. No matter what piece of information you seek, someone somewhere will have jotted it down on his or her blog.

Yeah, but: Blogs are not "the record." The record, it turns out, is a strange and mysterious thing. If you have enough money and power and persistence, you can get a fake story on the record -- and you can keep genuine information off.

To see a demonstration of how powerful interests can massage the record, check out Brad Friedman's excellent coverage (here and here) of the "ACORN sting" conducted by James O'Keefe (the guy later arrested for breaking into a Senator's office) and faux-prostitute Hannah Giles, under the supervision of rising conservative media superstar Andrew Breitbart.

Friedman has proven -- and Giles has confirmed -- that the story told to the media was wrong: O'Keefe did not enter ACORN offices dressed in an outrageous pimp costume. Giles has admitted that the pimp footage was strictly "B roll." (That's a Hollywood term meaning "subsidiary footage.")

It turns out that the video was edited and dubbed in a highly deceptive fashion. A later investigation revealed that, inside the offices, O'Keefe was dressed conservatively and told a story which differed significantly from the one which Breitbart reported.

The major media covered the case in a robustly anti-ACORN fashion, after Breitbart and Fox had pressured them into doing so. Brad Friedman's coverage should correct "the record." And yet, oddly enough, you won't see Brad Friedman cited in Wikipedia's entries on O'Keefe or Giles -- and Friedman will probably never be so cited, for reasons which I shall soon explain.

Breitbart has gone on national television numerous times to push his utterly misleading version of events. The New York Times published Breitbart's fake story, citing O'Keefe as a source -- even though O'Keefe is a young, reactionary ideologue with no journalistic credentials.

Our journal of record simply refuses to print the truth. Indeed, when pressed, the NYT announced that it "stands behind" its misleading coverage.

This piece by Eric Boehlert reveals how major media organs can be turned into myth-making instruments:
Friedman has been trying to get the newspaper of record to correct its inaccurate reporting on the pimp issue -- reporting that appeared as recently as last month, following O'Keefe's New Orleans arrest. When one of Friedman's readers contacted the newspaper urging the same request, the reader was informed, via email by a Times senior editor for standards, that because O'Keefe claimed he'd been dressed as a pimp inside ACORN offices, and because O'Keefe had appeared on Fox News and made that claim, the Times did not need to post a correction.

Wrote the Times standards editor: "We believe" O'Keefe. (Yikes!)

That's nuts. It's one thing to be suckered in by Breitbart and O'Keefe's pimp costume tale, it's another for the Times to now defend its erroneous reporting.
Boehlert goes on to demonstrate that CNN, NPR, the New York Post, the Dallas Morning News and many other important news outlets all reported the fake "dressed as a pimp" yarn, yet have not printed any retractions. That's what you call "working the press."

And so it is that, 20 years from now -- fifty years from now, a hundred years from now -- Brietbart's phoney-baloney version of the story will be the one that historians will use to create a portrait of our time. And in our own time, the Breitbart version is the one that has entered into popular consciousness.

The ACORN pseudo-sting reminds me of an (arguably) more important incident in which this humble blog participated: The outing of Case Closed author Gerry Posner as a serial plagiarist. Although Slate writer Jack Shafer published the pieces that deep-sixed Posner, the "heavy lifting" on that story was done by Cannonfire reader and contributor "G," whose first name I have given as Greg.

Alas, much of Greg's sleuthing is still largely unrecognized by that unnerving, amorphous entity we call "the record." Here is the length and breadth of the Posner plagiarism controversy, as per Wikipedia:
Posner was the chief investigative reporter at the Daily Beast. Following the revelation that a number of Posner's stories for the Beast contained portions plagiarized from articles in other publications, Posner resigned from the Beast... According to Posner, the plagiarism was inadvertent and the result of the "compressed deadlines" of the Beast and confusing his assembled research with his own writing in the "master files" he assembled on each story.
This explanation is one that even a child wouldn't buy. Shafer wrote a very amusing follow-up column on the excuses offered by plagiarists.

Read the Wikipedia entry on Posner. Most of it is sheer puff, obviously supplied by Gerry himself: ""After Case Closed, everyone thinks Oswald did it," wrote Newsweek." (This is true, if you define "everyone" so as not to include the vast majority of the American public.)

For a brief time, the Posner entry on Wikipedia offered a lengthier account of the man's journalistic sins. A link went to this Cannonfire post, largely written by Greg, who documents not just Posner's penchant for plagiarism but also his habit of altering quotations.

Wikipedia deep-sixed all of that material and refuses to allow any citations of Cannonfire material. This, despite the fact that Greg wrote to a very high standard. This, despite the fact that no-one has ever mounted a counter-argument to anything he had to say.

Slate's Jack Shafer, considered citable by Wikipedia, worked to no small degree from Greg's material. Greg, speaking for himself, is considered unreliable -- but Greg as filtered through Shafer is considered reliable. Can you explain that situation to me?

Wikipedia's head honchos told Greg that it has a policy against citing non-mainstream sources, such as blogs. This blog especially.

Wikipedia says that it applies the "no-blogs" policy with particular strictness when it comes to entries on living individuals. Actually, I can understand the rationale for this decision: No-one wants Wikipedia to turn into a trash-heap filled with waspish, vengeance-fueled personal attacks.

It is also pretty clear that Wikipedia does not want to cede territory to anyone who believes that JFK was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. Believe it or not, I also have some sympathy for this attitude. Although I am convinced that a conspiracy took place, I also know the JFK assassination "buff" community pretty well. That community is filled with people who are contentious, paranoid and downright obnoxious. If Wikipedia's editors did not keep them on a short leash, the results would be grim.

But Gerry Posner presents us with a special case.

Critics of Case Closed were able to pinpoint at least three instances in which Gerry pretended to have conducted interviews with key witnesses with whom he never actually spoke. Wikipedia's profile of Posner does not mention that outrageous breach of ethics, and the editors will not allow you to rewrite the entry in order to include this information.

That book has many other problems. I am not talking about disagreements over the interpretation of evidence; I am talking about serious issues of journalistic integrity. For example, the hardback edition implies that Posner commissioned a scientific study which was actually conducted for a television program; a lengthy explanatory footnote was added to the softcover edition.

That's why the JFK "buffs" have always reviled Posner in a way they do not revile other "Oswald did it" writers, such as Vincent Bugliosi and David Belin. Although we do not agree with Bugliosi, Gerry Posner belongs in a class by himself.

(Serious questions have surrounded Posner's other works. One of these days, I'll deliver that long-promised piece about his book on Mengele.)

My point is this: If Posner's earlier examples of shoddy journalism had "gone on the record" -- if, for example, Wikipedia's entry had mentioned something about the false interviews -- then The Daily Beast would never have hired Posner. And the publishers of Miami Babylon (Posner's most recent book) might have been spared some humiliation as well. (This blog will probably publish a piece about that book soon.)

Consider this hypothetical poser: Even if Cannonfire were able to prove that Gerry plagiarized portions of his most recent book, how could we get the information into Wikipedia? How can we get the truth onto the record?

Doing so would be difficult.

It's not just a matter of factual accuracy. The facts must be published in an acceptable forum. Anyone amending the Posner entry cannot cite Cannonfire or any other blog, even one that maintains a good reputation. Yet Wikipedia will publish what Posner has to say about himself -- even though Posner is a confessed plagiarist, and even though Posner alters quotes.

All of which brings us back to dear old Andy Breitbart.

Wikipedia, which does not consider Cannonfire worthy of citation -- and which seems to have a similarly dismissive attitude toward Brad Friedman's blog -- has no problem citing Breitbart's Big Government website. Wikipedia also cites Breitbart's other "Big" sites.

Brietbart's sites are not blogs.

Bloggers, it seems, are supposed to bitch and scream from the sidelines; we may never be considered players in the great game. Even if we do original investigative reporting, even if all of our facts check out, even if we dot every i and cross every T, and even if no-one counters our presentation of evidence, we mere bloggers are never considered citation-worthy sources of information.

Yet Breitbart and his minions can get on the record.

The New York Times considers O'Keefe -- but not Brad Friedman -- a reliable source of information.

The Washington Times and Glenn Beck and FOX are also part of "the record." Posner, wherever he ends up, will also surely contribute to "the record." These entities are considered citable.

And what is the difference between Breitbart's media empire and a humble blog such as the one you are perusing right now? Near as I can tell, it all comes down to a single word:

Money.
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Eventually, I could see Wikipedia incorporating color coding over some disputed points. Click on the color link and up pops a divergent view. Of course this will prove difficult to investigate and verify the authenticity of divergent viewpoints, but it could happen someday.

I feel that the head of Hustler did a dis service by not exposing that as many as half of the original 12 that warlock hunted Bill Clinton were themselves doing what they were attacking Bill Clinton for doing.

We know of 2 or 3 of the original 12, but the number may have actually been double that amount or more, but the head of Hustler decided not to publicize his list.

That decision to not nip the investigation in the bud with the hypocritical truth probably had an indirect affect on Hillary Clinton's run for the presidency.
 
Sometimes I notice that the newspaper baseball box scores do not show all the names of the players who played in the game.
 
Money?
 
I think the best opportunity anyone has in getting this "on the record" is to detail coverage of the lawsuit filed by Katherine Conway-Russe, the woman at ACORN in Philadelphia that was filmed without consent.
Perhaps, Conway-Russell can have the full footage made available vis a vis the lawsuit, and then made available on the net. But maybe she doesn't want the whole issue revisited that way-hard to say.
As far as Wikipedia is concerned, I once went to update some information on Daniel Hopsicker after reading Barry and the Boys and found that it was deleted. Apparently,with two controversial books under his belt, he is not considered legitimate enough to have a wikipedia entry. ugh.
 
ps- here's a good article on the lawsuit filed by the woman at ACORN.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/elections/20100123_ACORN_worker_files_suit_against_filmmakers_on_taping.html

It details how ACORN resisted speaking with Giles and O'Keefe, amongst other things.
 
what is the difference between Breitbart's media empire and a humble blog such as the one you are perusing right now? Near as I can tell, it all comes down to a single word:

Money.


Maybe it's not only that. Could another difference be... the minds of the readers?
 
It would be interesting if money did play a role in how they edited stories.

However they generally seem pretty good compared to mainstream media. If you look at how the media bends over backwards now to avoid offending China on any given issue it is embarrassing. I think it is due to the fact that the media has merged into a few giants all of which want to get into China and I suspect all of which have rules against any comments seen as unfriendly to China.

I would love to see someone discuss breaking up the media monopolies to pre Clinton size. Gore mentioned it when he ran for the White House and I think that was why the press turned on him. But with the internet media it now might be possible to raise the issue and survive.
 
Joseph (as least, as I read this entry) is not arguing that money directly influences how Wikipedia edits. Rather it does so indirectly. Only major media citation sourcing is allowed – and money allows one to publish as major media (e.g. Breitbart).

I used to think of Wikipedia more generously. But my experience, and that of others I’ve spoken with, has led me to realize that Wikipedia displays a great deal of bias. It’s not bad in science/math – but with politics, history, culture, etc. the inherent biases can really become clear. Part of the problem might be that the stated Wikipedian ideal is not truth-seeking per se, but rather what they refer to as the wisdom of the consensus "hive mind" – which basically comes down to establishment consensus.
 
Great column!

Take heart: 50 or 100 years from now, there's no guarantee what will be. What's "the record" on the Roman empire? Nowadays graffiti and pottery from the time count about as much as Caesar's Blog from Gaul.

I certainly don't believe Wikipedia will be "the record" or even exist with anything like its present, wholly undeserved authority in 50 years.

As for the specific cases here: We can hope O'Keefe and Breitbart will be exposed in court, either because of the ACORN suit or the criminal case. I know it's a crapshoot, but the prosecutor in the Landrieu case may turn out to be honest and commmitted. (Her name is Jan Mann, we'll see.)

But that's not enough consolation for you or for Brad. You are absolutely right. Again, take heart in the impermanence of "the record," and in the inevitable decline of these increasingly discredited sources - the New York Times and Wikipedia both. A better day will come.
 
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