Tuesday, October 06, 2009

What to do about the banks...?

Thanks to Lambert at Corrente for turning my attention to this intriguing idea:
So there's this guy in Florida running for the Democratic nomination for governor. He has a plan to eliminate property taxes, create a million new jobs, provide free health insurance and free college for all residents, and lots more.

His plan hinges around a proposal to create the Bank of the State of Florida, which will pay 6% for CDs and make mortgage loans at 2% and other loans including small business loans at 3% and make billions for the state. How is this possible, you ask? Using "fractional reserve banking" just like every other bank, except using the profits for the public good.

Dr. Farid A. Khavari says he is "an economist, not a politician," and he can make all of this happen. He is also the author of a book, "Towards a Zero-Cost Economy - A Blueprint to Create General Economic Security in a Carefree Economy" that describes an economic system called "carefreeism," which he compares to capitalism and socialism here. You can download the book for free.
In a previous post, I said that, during this crisis, Obama is in a position to offer much more aid to California (a state which routinely gives more to D.C. than it receives in goods and services), because the federal government can literally make money. But the truth is that banks make money, through the fractional reserve system. So why shouldn't a state -- Florida, California, whatever -- own a bank?

Let's think bigger. What if Uncle Sam owned (and ran, and profited from) Goldman Sachs and the rest of that bunch?

I have no idea who this Khavari guy is. I strongly suspect that, once I learn more about him, he'll turn out to be a crank. Let's face it -- "carefreeism" is the stupidest name for an ism in the history of isms.

But the basic idea...? I'm intrigued. Not sold -- intrigued. I'd like to hear counter-arguments.

The Friedmanites and Randroids will probably cry "socialism!" at the thought of a state-owned banking system. But think about it: The bank makes money only if it loans money to entrepreneurs. Thus, in order to bolster its coffers, the government would need to encourage as much free enterprise as possible.

(About an hour's time separated the writing of the stuff above from the writing of the stuff below.)

Okay, I've started to research Khavari. And I don't like much of what I've seen.

Although he seems to fit nowhere on the standard left-to-right political map, Khavari is an admirer of the former Shah of Iran, one of the worst despots in history. That, my friends, is un-put-up-with-able. The guy also runs something called the Environomic Research Institute, which looks like it could be a scam or a front. On the other hand, one of his earlier books has been cited approvingly by Jeremy Rifkin -- a good sign.

Right now, I'm leaning toward tossing the guy into my crank file.

Not only that. The notion of turning banks into public utilities has been championed before, by a rather shocking personage: Gottfried Feder.

And who, you may be asking, was Gottfried Feder? Well, he was a very strange and disturbing fellow. In 1919, he gave a lecture which enchanted Adolf Hitler and enticed him to cast his lot with the fledgling Nazi party.

In the 1920s, Feder was a leading member of what has been called the "left wing" of the National Socialists. Yes, the Nazis did have a left(ish) wing, or at least an anti-capitalist wing, during the party's gestative years. If you don't believe me, read a few books about the early days; start with Putsch! by Richard Hanser.

Feder was, first and foremost, a vicious racist -- a detestable individual. That fact must never be forgotten, rationalized or minimized. Yet he also favored some ideas which we would now consider far-left -- welfare, labor unions, state-funded health care and a government-guaranteed right to a job.

Feder drafted the 25 point Nazi party program, discussed on this Wikipedia page. Ten of those points are pro-labor; the rest is vile. Hitler gave the program lip-service while running for office, but ignored it as he inched closer to power. In 1931, Hitler tossed Feder "under the bus" (as we would now say) when Feder's anti-capitalist rants began to frighten the industrialists whom Hitler wanted to woo. The economy was turned over to Hjalmar Schact, who thought that Feder was a nut.

In a nut's shell: Feder emphasized the distinction between industrial capitalism and finance capitalism -- between the folks who make shoes and the folks who loan money so that a shoe factory can be built. In his scheme, industrial capitalism = good; finance capitalism = bad. Thus, Feder advocated the creation of a nationalized central bank, to be distinguished from something like the Federal Reserve, which is a private/public hybrid. In American terms, he wanted to hoist the red flag over Wall Street but not over Main Street. Those who lived on "unearned income" -- the Gordon Gecko types -- were to be treated mercilessly.

Oddly enough, Feder was probably influenced in all of this by the American populists of the 1870s-1880s.

Modern fascists have a mixed view of Feder. Some seem attracted to his ideas, and have attempted to re-package them. (Khavari may be in this tradition.) Most of today's goose-steppers sneer at Feder as a commie.

Is Khavari a covert Federist? Does Feder have value? Can his economic notions be considered separately from his racist and nationalist claptrap?

I honestly don't know.

But I can say this: On an instinctive level, I would still prefer to see Uncle Sam take over the "too big to fail" banks instead of handing trillions of dollars to private institutions. Using the banks' profits to help fund the government strikes me as -- if you can forgive my quoting Ollie North -- a neat idea.

15 comments:

Ken Hoop said...
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Hoarseface said...

The post office used to operate as a savings bank as well. Seems like a good idea to me.

2Truthy said...

Sounds great, but I don't see how this would succeed. How much does the State of FL spend every year from its tax collections? All the banks would lobby against this. It's also interesting that this guy supported the Shah of Iran, given that Muslims shun usury (certainly not to imply that individuals of any faith can't and don't stray from the ideological roots of their respective folds.)

Purple said...

Capital does not make things. Labor makes things.

dakinikat said...

When I lived in Edina MN there were only two places to buy booze, and it was the two booze stores run by the Edina Public schools that used the proceeds to fund their operations.

Great school system with lots of money from that, believe me!

Walter Clark said...

National Socialism WAS left wing. The Nazis and Soviet Union's Communists were very much alike; they just couldn't get along because each wanted 100% and was just looking for an opportunity to shaft the other.

Labor can't produce anything without Capital providing the funds to hire labor, buy raw materials and equipment, transport and sell the product.

Joseph Cannon said...

Walter, that is the loopiest sentiment I've ever allowed anyone to express on these pages. The bit about Nazism being left-wing, I mean.

Anonymous said...

North Dakota has a state owned and run bank. Some attribute the state's quite strong performance economically to influences from that bank. (I think they are one of only two states that remain in budget balance or surplus.)

While unemployment has increased there, it is still in the 4%s range iirc.

XI

lambert strether said...

I think that in Japan, the Post Office still does operate as a bank, or did until recently.

Khavari may well be a crank -- money cranks are, I imagine, as sure a sign of depression as "the rules don't apply" is a sign of a market top.

That said, the idea of "narrow" or "boring" banks is just this side of mainstream, with DFHs like Krugman, Simon Johnson, and (IIRC) Willem Buiter supporting it. And if you ask yourself what the most boring possible business could be, it's something like your local gas company (unless Enron got hold of it, of course).

lambert strether said...

Anonymous, thanks for reminding me of the Bank of North Dakota.

Unknown said...

Re: Khavari-- some crank or the real deal?

The briefest look at Khavari's state-owned bank proposal (1 page and a 2-minute video www.khavariforgovernor.com ) shows the average Florida family would save about $400,000 in a working lifetime--by direct savings of $190K on a $200K mortgage, plus earning 6% interest on it from the state bank for 15 years--not to mention savings on insurance etc, also part of Khavari's plan.

But the state would earn BILLIONS per year providing 2% mortgages, 6% CD's etc. Watch the video.

KHAVARI AND SHAH OF IRAN--
Those of us who lived through that period of world history know that for many years the Shah was the best friend America ever had in the middle east. Carter's diabolical (though effective) move to block Soviet hegemony with Africa--he simply turned his back on the Shah and ushered in the lunatic Khomeini--who then murdered hundreds of thousands of Christians, Baha'is, suspected communists, intelligentsia, and the usual--including Khavari's father, who was a well-loved leader of the Baha'i faith.

Khomeini started an 8-year war with Iraq which killed millions of
people on both sides, greatly reducing the future population of the 2 countriess. That was when Saddam was our friend and we sold him all the weapons, remember?

Khavari has written 9 books. If you want to know his opinion of Islam, just whom the U.S. put in power in Iran in the 1970s-80s, and understand why Iran is the problem it is today, look at his prophetic 1987 book OIL AND ISLAM--THE TICKING BOMB.

You don't have to be a Moslem to hate usury. If you have to work 15 extra years to pay for your house, that is slavery. It is one thing for the banks to make some money--after all, they literally do "make" out of thin air $9 for every $1 of reserves they have--even more with credit cards which typically have no reserve. Should they really charge 30% for that money which costs them nothing but costs our society that 30%?
Isn't it odd that the banks collected hundreds of billions in debt insurance on their bad mortgages-- and then they get to keep the houses, too?

If the water company raised its prices, cut its supply, changed the due date on your water bill and then charged you $39 for paying late, and then there's no water at all, you might start thinking. If the government gave the water company all the water they wanted, but they used it to fill their execs' swimming pools while you were on half-rations----MAYBE you would think a municipal water company COULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

Ditto for insurance slavery, another Khavari target.

Don't dis the person, until you at least consider the objective validity of his ideas.

Joseph Cannon said...
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Joseph Cannon said...

Ignoring Khavari for the moment -- Bob, you're really starting to piss me off. The Shah was a monster. Did you ever speak to someone who lived under his rule? I have. As vile as the Islamic Republic is, the Shah's regime was even worse.

Carter did not stab him in the back -- Carter supported the Shah until the bitter end, even after most members of the general public had figured out that the regime's days were numbered.

The CIA stabbed Carter in the back, incidentally, by not telling him that the Shah was doomed. (They knew about the state of his health.) I have little doubt that the CIA aided Khomeini -- otherwise, the nation might have gone socialist -- but I have no reason to believe that Carter had any inkling of it.

Unknown said...

Joseph-- I didn't mean to piss you off. Of course I know plenty of Iranians who lived under the Shah and bailed out. Khavari is one of them. Also some who didn't bail out and got killed for staying with Khomeini. I meant to address the implication that Khavari is Moslem, which he is not (Baha'i).

I thought the real issue was the banks and the benefits of a state-owned bank. The Shah has been dead for 30 years, but the United States-- and the states--are in deep trouble and this guy's plans can make a big improvement, in FL or any other state.

Wil said...

It's really strange to look at a proposal to fix the economy with such suspicion when the people who destroyed the economy are screwing you every day.

Khavari's proposal makes perfect sense. I don't need to know his politics or his affiliations, he is a gubernatorial candidate with a plan that makes sense.

I started hitting this idea hard in May of last year on my blog, and Ellen Brown way before that, on behalf of her state.

Besides cynicism, what have "you all" got to offer???

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