odd that Geller keeps coming up in these situations. I used to think she was just a crazy woman who drank too much. Not anymore.
posted by Anonymous : 5:19 PM
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula the alleged co-producer of the anti-Muslim hate film, who worked with director Alan Roberts and Jimmy Israel , on the films production , was involved in an Israeli led crime ring. He became a federal informant after his arrest for activities as a runner in an identity theft financial scheme earning many hundreds of thousands of dollars while working for Eiad Salameh (Shoebat , Shu'aybat, Salamey ) Eiad Salameh is alleged to be an Israeli citizen of Palistinian ethnicity who traveled between Israel and the United States frequently and as a Palistinian Israeli accused of financial crimes, most certainly was under the supervision of Israeli security authorities. But what we know about Eiad to date is from his cousin a notorious careerist in the Stockholm Islamaphobia network of Pamela Geller and other Israeli –Jewish funded persons of interest in the production of this film.. It is not known whether Nakoula’s boss in the Israeli led crime ring has fled to Israel to escape American justice .
“Eiad Salameh Shu’aybat my first cousin (Salameh’s son) is wanted by the United States for major fraud most likely linked to financial terrorism. He was involved in a passport fraud operation (provided to me by Farid my brother), Enfamil milk scam, and holds an illegal Israeli passport that was fraudulently obtained to smuggle himself in and out of Israel” [Israeli citizen anted by the US DOJ] http://www.shoebat.com/shoebat-foundation/evidence-of-my-credentials/
Another cousin Eiad Shoebat, has an arrest warrant by the FBI wanted to major financial fraud suspected to be terror related. This involved contra band, passport fraud and major financial embezzlements intended to aid and abet terrorism. You can call the FBI to confirm.
Eiad S Salameh was born in 1962. Eiad currently lives in Cypress, California. Before that, Eiad lived in Orange, CA from 2009 to 2011. Before that, Eiad lived in Los Alamitos, CA from 2000 to 2005.
Nakoula, 55, was arrested in June 2009 for his role in a check-kiting ring that stole nearly $800,000 from six financial institutions by using stolen Social Security numbers and identities. Nakoula was named in a six-count felony indictment accusing him and unnamed “co-schemers” of perpetrating the bank fraud. Denied bail, Nakoula, a married father of three, was locked up at the Metropolitan Detention Center in L.A. when he began cooperating with Justice Department lawyers and federal agents. During a series of debriefing sessions, Nakoula provided investigators with a detailed account of the fraud operation and fingered the man who allegedly headed the operation, according to comments made by his lawyer at sentencing. Nakoula identified the ring’s leader as Eiad Salameh, a notorious fraudster who has been tracked for more than a decade by state and federal investigators. In his debriefings, Nakoula said he was recruited as a “runner” by Salameh, who pocketed the majority of money generated by the bank swindles, according to James Henderson, Nakoula’s attorney. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/nakoula-cooperation-756920
He implicated Mr. Salamey. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/nakoula-transcript?page=1
Why would a Copt, who would surely know how disastrous such a film would be to the position of fellow Egyptian Copts, be involved in such a mess? This "cabal" sounds like a convenient front for others whose motives are not simply a vile hatred of all things Islamic.
...and consider the timing vis a vis the presidential election. And the convenient access to the snitchy ex-con. There must be more afoot.
posted by lastlemming : 10:08 PM
The first director of the film is Jimmy Israel, later replaced by Alan Roberts, at the reueest of Sam Bacile who knew Jimmy Israel. According to Jimmy, Sam bacile then brought in Alan Roberts, and in pre production records there is only Roberts and Jimmy Israel. According to Jimmy, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is the son of Sam Basile, and they are two different people. There is another person involved, described as the original backer who took over. This aonymous person, unnamed by Jimmy, introduced Sam to Jimmy, and that this anonymous person, now in hiding, is not Sam basile, and not Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. So if Sam is indeed Nakoula, Jimmy Israel believes they have different names., perhaps he saw financial records with this name, and Sam (Nakoula?) said this name was that of his son. Israel didn’t meet Sam and Nakoula together or there would be no confusion. But this leaves out the ‘other fellow’, unnamed original backer who took over, and introduced Jimmy to Sam. The other fellow is still unnamed and in hiding.
But we only have Jimmy Israel’s testimony on this. The existence of another fellow makes Israel , Nakoula, and Roberts dupes of this unknown fourth person. This fourth person knew each of the participants and recruited them, and was responsible for gaining financial backing in ‘Egypt’. If the Sam that talked to AP and the WSJ was indeed Nakoula, then Nakoula in fright over his probabtion may have blurted out the 4th man as an Israeli with Israeli Jewish funding. But this pre-supposes that Nakoula was unprepared to be discovered by AP/WSJ, which may be likely given his legal status as an ex con on probation, and a federal snitch, easily coming clean under pressure.
The revelation that a script with funding existed in Feb. 2012 suggests that the 4th man was the connection to the original film project with fund raising on going whose genesis was in the Stockholm Islamaphobia Network , the film project of Ali Sina. Ali Sina talked to Eric Bell who made an Islam documentary. The connection to Roberts the director seems opportunistic, but Roberts spokesman, David Prior, a directorproducer, may know who introduced Roberts to the project, Prior worked with Roberts, did he know Bell or Jimmy Israel, and from where. Israel attended anti islam seminars, did he meet the 4th man there and was recruited for his film expertise. Not likely that the pornagrapher Roberts attended christian seminars on Islam. And how would Roberts, Israel, or Prior know Nakoula the ex con fed informant and veteran of an Israeli led crime ring. All of this sgguests that Jimmy Israel is not lying, there is a fourth man, who financially backed the film and brought the crew together. Most likely the 4th man knows Prior who suggested Roberts, and knew Israel through the anti Islam seminars. Nakoula was brought in to be the Coptic fall guy and terminal dead end as he would violate his parole into incarceration. He was brought in after the script and after pre production expenses were paid by Israel and Roberts. The 4th man is not on these receipts, but may be on the LA county film permit under lock and key by the request of the US state dept. But this name too may be an alias , and Jimmy Israel may not know the true name . The origin and name of the 4th man could only then possibly be identified through financial transfers from this man to Israel and Roberts to pay the initial expenses.Sam or the 4th man still owe Jimmy Israel and the cast money. Was the initial staff financing done through cash, yes, according to some of the cast participants, Very well done.
Case closed. Nothing to see here, move on: US Govt releases arabic Nakoula interview where he claism sole responsibility, pending his probation review:
Reporters and police are camped out outside Nakoula's house in Cerrito outside Los Angeles, but he has not been seen, although he did give an interview to Radio Sawa, a US-government station that broadcasts in Arabic.
>>'Nobody manipulated my film'
"I am the one who leaked the 14 minutes and put it on the Internet and I am thinking about releasing the full film. Nobody manipulated my film," he said. The clip on YouTube was picked up by Egyptian television.
posted by Anonymous : 12:09 AM
WSJ implies Sam Basile paid actors, not Nakoula. New photo of Sam Basile appears but is this Nakoula or Basil ?
In the AP interview, a person identifying himself as Mr. Nakoula said he had managed the film's production but denied he was Mr. Bacile. Attempts by Journal to identify a Nakoula B. Nakoula at the address were unsuccessful. Several actors and the assistant director, Mr. Robinson, said they were paid via personal check from the producer. All said the checks cleared. Mr. Robinson said the producer signed the checks with the name "Sam Bassiel."
Who is the Sam Basile who paid in personal checks, and do we have a copy of cleared checks. What funds went into this account. Did Nakoula pay 750k in fine upon release from prison. or some small part, and from where ?
posted by Anonymous : 12:43 AM
Some good questions, there, Anon. Here's another: Why is Nakoula not back in jail?
He used the computer against the terms of his probation. Not only that -- and this is something nobody else seems to have noticed -- there are reports from the set that Nakoula said he was flying back and forth from Egypt during that time.
Who is the Fourth Man ? Hollywood Director Steve Goldenberg
Pre production of the notorious anti Muslim film begins with Jimmy Israel and Alan Roberts whose names are on pre production cost documents. But we don’t know who brought these two together to create the film, financial backing is said to come not from Sam Basile (possibly the felon Nakoula ) but from a fourth man who Israel refuses to identify, but Jimmy says/ that this 4th man introduced him to Basil and Roberts, but there is some confusion because Jimmy believes Basil to be a separate person from Nakoula. Who is the supervising financial backer of this grou?
Jeffrey J Robinson was the Assistant Director of “Desert Warriors” the original title of the film as he lists in a a cached earlier version of his resume online. Robinson identifies Sam Basell as producer and Alan Roberts as director.
Jeffrey J Robinson – Assistant Director, 14311 Addison St. Sherman Oaks, CA, 91423 (480) 518-5197, Jeffrey.email@example.com
“Desert Warrior” (2011) – 1st AD Dir: Alan Roberts Prod: Sam Bassill
Note that Robinson lists a Steve Goldenberg as a reference. An actress lists a similar name in her online IMDB resume:
--- Cindy Lee Davis Garcia United States
Film ________________________________________ Desert Warriors Supporting Role/ Mother Steven Goldberg
There does indeed exist a Steve Goldenberg on IMDB and facebook director of Lizardman, and there is a remnant of a communication between actress davis and director Steven Goldenberg, note this name may be an alias as many are on IMDB and facebook.
Twenty Questions - LIVE - with Steven Goldenberg by Piranhaconda on Saturday, June 25, 2011 at 2:02am •
… Matchflick: Really?? I like to end up my interviews by getting a sound bite from them. What would you like to tell people about you? Steven: I'll just keep trying and trying and I won't stop! And I thank Mom and Dad for that influence. Also I would like to thank everyone who helped make this movie possible.
Watch for LIZARDMAN, coming up September 15, 2011. Like • Comment • Share • • o Cindy Lee Garcia Steven what happened with the movie Dessert Warriors, haven't heard anything more about it January 12 at 11:55pm
Cindy is checking on the film in Jan 2012 because it had been re-scheduled after an initial casting call. She is asking for information upon the status of the film from Steve Goldenberg as he was her initial contact and producer on the film project, which is why she lists a ‘Steve Goldberg’ on her film resume for ‘Desert Warriors’, Nakoula and Alan Roberts were not yet involved. Jeffrey Robinson lists Steve Goldenberg as a reference because he worked with Goldenberg before , and most likely Goldenberg referred Robinson to the replacement crew of Roberts, Israel, and Nakoula. Therefore Goldenberg must be the link to not just Robinson and Davis, but to Alan Roberts (same horror genre) and Jimmy Israel . This is all of course hypothetical, but even dispensing with the interpretation of links, why did actress davis twice refer to Steve Goldenberg , aka Goldberg in reference to this film Who paid Steve Goldenberg to organize this crew, and how was the financial backing distributed, invested?
Joseph notes: "there are reports from the set that Nakoula said he was flying back and forth from Egypt during that time. Are you allowed to do that while on probation?" Sure, you're allowed, with explicit, documnted permission from your probation officer. This requires submission of a standard form to the probation officer for each trip. A probationer must specify all the details of the trip: When, to Where, to visit Whom, for Why are you traveling.
So, there's a FOIA angle.
posted by dqueue : 8:09 AM
Nakoula's message on the arbic us government station was that I alone ws involved and no one manipulated me, this must be the price of his liberty from enforcement of his probabation violations.
Its doubtful that during the revolution in egypt he was securing funds from an embattled elite worried about mubarak's security forces and whoever might follow him. And his photo is of an old man , jail time and white collar crime taking its toll. An unlikely leader figure and grand conspirator. The same with the others, even Steven Goldenberg doesnt materialize as such, perhaps the film organizer based on his experience, but not the instigator.
Is Steven Goldenberg the Israeli American fundraiser from the Geller network first identified by Basile/ Nakoula ?
Or is the steven goldenberg an alias for a relation to steve goldberg of the geller network and the zionist org of america?
The names on locked down LA film permit may be helpful, unless they have scrubbed it and replaced it with a new version redacted.
The AP-DOJ version is that this crew spontaneously self assembled with Nakoula becomign the leader, writing the script, producing the funds from Media for Christ. But Media for Christ may instead eller network, and Nakoula the 2nd cutout intrroduced later. The original team of Goldenberg, Roberts, and Jimmy Israel are sui generis, deux ex machina. Not likely.
I just a had creazy though. Those people in the middle east are going crazy against every thing american because the video was done here. yet the persons who made it is an eygptian copt and an a jew. I don't see any back lash against those 2 groups by protesters. no coptic church burned or attacked, no coptic people killed so WTF. I don't want it to happen I am just wondering
First, let me state that I've been busy with RL stuff, and thus haven't been keeping up with the reading. That's my task for today.
Second, Anon raises a good point. But I do not counsel anyone to get angry at Copts (who have suffered enough) and Jews (ditto, until they started to persecute Palestinians). Instead, note that the mastermind of this business is Pam Geller -- a libertarian.
Let's blame THEM.
Kidding. Let's not. I know full well that there are variant strains of libertarianism. But...there is a TYPE of Libertarian we may fairly blame.
I'm not taking about guys like Justin Raimondo or Ron Paul. I'm convinced that they truly do not want war, do not want intervention in other countries. On non-economic issues, they are on the right side.
But. There is an unholy marriage of libertarianism and neo-conservatism out there. This strain recently took over the Cato Institute. They have a "tell": Whenever they talk about war, they usually offer truly vile rationales for absolute barbarism. They'll say things like "The only moral way to fight a war is with utter ruthlessness." Kill 'em all. Destroy your enemies. That, in their view, is MORAL.
It's a twisted morality taken from Hitler. (Yes, I broke Godwin's fucking law. Sue me.) "Evil, be thou my good."
That kind of Libertarianism is in vogue with a rising number of ultra-hawks both in this country and in Israel. And elsewhere. And yes, I think the people behind this film really do believe in THAT kind of "morality."
At least Pastor Terry Jones isn't Monty Python's Dirty Vicar Terry Jones, whom I had down as rather more of an 'orientalist'.
posted by b : 3:02 PM
Cindy Lee Davis Garcia's IMDb listing of steven goldberg as producer (exec producer?) makes me wonder!
3 July 2012: Anti-Muslim activist barred from speaking at federation buildng Jonah Lowenfeld The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles LOS ANGELES - Pamela Geller, a blogger and noted anti-Muslim activist, was barred from speaking at the Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles building on a recent Sunday... Among the approximately 30 would-be attendees gathered on the sidewalk outside federation's Wilshire Boulevard headquarters was Steven Goldberg, the national vice-chairman of ZOA... According to Goldberg, Sanderson cancelled the event, citing fear that local Muslim groups might protest outside the building. "They need spinal implants," Goldberg said of federation's leaders, noting the absence of protesters. http://www.jewishtribune.ca/news/2012/07/03/anti-muslim-activist-barred-from-speaking-at-federation-building
23 Aug 2012: Mondoweiss: Dutch newspaper report a reminder of American Jewish links with Geert Wilders In a 2009 press release, the ZOA announced "its strong support for Geert Wilders" as he came under legal scrutiny after producing an anti-Muslim film. (Wilders was eventually cleared of charges of inciting hatred against Muslims.) ZOA vice-chairman Steven Goldberg said: "It's an abomination that Geert Wilders would face prison for simply telling the truth about Islamic jihad. Wilders is a friend of Israel and the Jewish people, and it is incumbent on us to return his friendship in his hour of need. We must not remain silent." http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/dutch-newspaper-report-a-reminder-of-american-jewish-links-with-geert-wilders.html
posted by Anonymous : 7:50 PM
Vice has an update from 'Jimmy Israel' with a copy of the working latest screenplay draft which disproves any claim of being duped as to the films purpose of incitement and hate speech. Cindy Lee Garcia Davis , an actress, and an evangelical pastor, who participated in the film claims she didn't know its hateful purpose. She is represented by an aclu lawyer in a lawsuit against Nakoula.
But Jimmy Israel claims Nakoula was the leader, reversing his earlier statements, and claims 'Conrad' like Jimmy Israel were employees of Nakoula. Nakoula denies leading the film project.
Cindy Lee Davis Garcia claims 'Steve Goldberg' was the original producer. There is a Zionist Organization of America LA based lawyer who has supported Geller and Gert Wilders hate speech that could be this 'Steve Goldberg' or it could be the Steven Goldenberg listed on asst. dir. Jeffrey J Robinson's resume as a reference.
The key detail in 'Jimmy Israel's conflicting statements is the existence of a fourth man distinct from Sam Basil-Nakoula [Jimmy said these were two people previously], Alan Roberts, and Jimmy Israel. Who is the fourth man unidentified by Jimmy Israel or the media
Is it Steve Goldberg or Steve Goldenberg ?
And if the script wasn't written by Nakoula who wrote it? Is it the same script of Ali Sina of the Geller Spencer Stockholm Network whose lawyer is Steve Goldberg? How does the organization ZOA Zionist organization of America reconcile its mission with its LA lawyer being linked to Wilders and Geller??
Media for Christ claims it didn't know the project was anti Islamic, but the now released draft of the screenplay shows them to be liars.
To unravel this then, we need to know Media for Christ funding sources, and the identify of the original producer , the fourth man.
The most recent draft of the film script clearly anti Muslim hate is here, along with Jimmy Israel’s new version of events.
It was filmed in Aug 2011 & the script was Not antimuslem! Some of the crew I worked with 30 years ago. Great guys. Basil is the other N guy I saw a pic on news. We were duped. Who duped us? He got away with too much. ????????