The Kevin Spacey stories may have political ramifications.
As you know, Spacey accompanied Bill Clinton on a trip aboard Jeffrey Epstein's jet to an AIDS conference in Africa. Keep that fact in mind as you consider the following.
During the campaign, a fake story circulated (even on Vox!) that Virginia Roberts -- the Epstein victim who brought suit against Alan Dershowitz -- had sex with Clinton on Epstein's island. I trace the origin of that story here. Bottom line: In her deposition, Roberts said precisely the opposite, and she has not changed her statement in subsequent interviews.
If you want a queasy feeling in your stomach, consider these two points:
1. Trump obviously plans to "run against the Clintons" for the rest of his presidency. Inchoate Clinton-hate is THE force binding together the Republican party right now. Not tax reform: Only the elites care about that. Average working-class Republicans care primarily about Lock Her Up. If Hillary Clinton did not exist, support for Trump would dwindle.
2. At any time, any eastern European girl formerly in Epstein's entourage can slam the media with an "I fucked Bill while I was still a kid" story. A guy who launders money for Russian oligarchs (and please note that I did not accuse Epstein of being that guy) could easily pay such a girl ten million dollars. Or more.
(Would Virginia tell lies for that kind of money? I don't think so, but it's not as though I know the woman.)
Clinton's witness on that plane trip was Kevin Spacey. Not too long ago, his testimony would have carried weight. Now, nobody will accept anything he has to say.
The Weinstein case, along with all the other suddenly-prominent charges of celebrity sexual abuse, has given feminists a chance to hammer home their usual message:
Women never lie. Women are pure. Women are incorruptible. Women must always be believed. You must never question women. You must accept everything a woman says at face value without looking into her background and without asking for further evidence.
That message is, of course, bullshit. Women and men are equally likely to lie. (Some evidence suggests that men are actually a bit more truthful, at least about small matters.) If a great deal of money is involved, women and men are equally corruptible.
(There's also the "crazy factor." It has been said that one out of eight human beings will go nuts at some point, and I've seen no evidence that the ratio differs between females and males. That's why police must investigate the credibility of a woman who cries rape. How else can you determine whether or not she is Woman Number 8?)
Bottom line: I think we're being set up. Slowly but surely. Chess pieces are being put into position for a big play that could happen ten moves down the line.
Heretofore, one factor has impeded the Trumpists from playing the Epstein card (despite hints that such a play was under consideration): There's a hell of a lot more evidence connecting Trump to Epstein than has ever linked Clinton to Epstein. But desperate times call for desperate measures. The time may soon come when the Trumpers will play that card.
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Filtering out from Komrad Murdoch UK News media East to West in the tabloids : Charlie Sheene joins the "I raped a 13 year old in the 70s/80s" Club
"Bottom line: I think we're being set up. Slowly but surely. Chess pieces are being put into position for a big play that could happen ten moves down the line.
Heretofore, one factor has impeded the Trumpists from playing the Epstein card (despite hints that such a play was under consideration): There's a hell of a lot more evidence connecting Trump to Epstein than has ever linked Clinton to Epstein. But desperate times call for desperate measures. The time may soon come when the Trumpers will play that card."
EXACTLY! THANK YOU! If Trumpers pull the Epstein card then stop being a bunch ninnies, TAKE IT BACK and knock their lights out with it!
IT'S MUELLER TIME MUTHAFUCKAS!
Filtering out from Komrad Murdoch UK News media East to West today in the tabloids : Charlie Sheene joins the "I raped a 13 year old in the 70s/80s" Club
UK DailyMail (original gangster Nazi sympathizers) tabloid and Oligarch pal Komrad Rupert Murdoch's tabloids are all over Charlie Sheen's case like stink on shit:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html
UK paparazzi apparently staking out Charlie Sheen's home in the hopes he might pull a 13 year old out of pocket thinking no one is watching.
We have a funny little mascot here, but yeah. You may be right, Joseph, that Bill Clinton is being set up, but DT lives in that glass house.
And you have a typo in your headline.
I think you may be a little overwrought, Joseph. Your women are pure and never lie spiel is the flip side of the same coin that general pulled out.
In fact, the opposite. Women are arguing they have a right to own and flaunt their sexuality. Thus, the Slut Walks. We have a right to be impure and not be coerced.
I came of age in tbe 70s and understand that 13 and 14 year olds felt very differently about sexuality back then. To us it was empowering. Of course, we were children. But there were plenty of us who spoke up to defend David Bowie after he died, including the young groupie who became a lifelong friend of his. Consent still matters.
Spacey is an abusive asshole. We can tell the difference.
Sorry about the typo.
I'm sorry, but my point still stands. Women are every bit as corruptible as men. And they are just as likely to Person Number 8.
The latter I know from experience. A woman would pretty much HAVE to be Number 8 to date a guy like me.
Dude, men are not only 9 times as violent offenders as women but the majority of women in jail are there because they killed the men who would've killed them. Facts. You would need to learn at least three names a day to honor the women killed every single day by their partners, let alone the kids and other "collateral" damage. A state trooper told me last week the reason cops show up when it's a domestic event: because someone. Will.get. killed. As you may or may not know in Bmore calling 911 gets you put on hold and cops do not come..unless you see a gun or it's a domestic assault.
Sorry I have no clue what 8 means. I am an old woman in my 50s. It's comical to think anyone dates women my age regardless of number. You are on a losing battle here, for no reason at all. Don't make me roll out my big grammatical cannons. Just ceasefire.
I agree with your gloomy gus prediction, but your same coin flip side as White House General "when women were pure" is a bum mint.
None of that disproves anything I said. The "8" reference is explained in my text.
So you're arguing that if one of Epstein's girls accuses Clinton she must be telling the truth? No other interpretation is possible?
There is no evidence Clinton is attracted to children or that he parties like that. He shared a plane. Also, whatever else Spacey did, he didn't lie when accused. Compare his responses to Weinstein's.
Anon, I didn't say Clinton was attracted to children!
This appears to have been another "reading comprehension test" post. The words you people think I wrote have no relationship to the words I actually wrote.
Speaking of being misunderstood...
"EXACTLY! THANK YOU! If Trumpers pull the Epstein card then stop being a bunch ninnies, TAKE IT BACK and knock their lights out with it!"
Inevitably, there will be an attempt to do just that. But the links between Trump and Epstein, though very real, are not damning, at least not based on the evidence available to us right now. (And my earlier article offers as full of compilation of that evidence as you'll find anywhere.)
But if one of Epstein's "paramours" from eastern Europe offers a false story about Bill Clinton -- THAT will overpower all other concerns. Her story will be almost impossible to counter, since nearly everyone on the left has been brainwashed into believing that All Females Are Incapable of Lying.
You know Joseph, even though I realize that personal experience does not translate into a universal truth, I agree with what you are suggesting here about women. In my experience, they have been just about as trustworthy as men, i.e., not very much. I've met some truly crazy women who easily outdid any men I've known in the area of pathological lying. Now, they could have become this way due to being mistreated by men in their lives when they were young, so it could still possibly come down to being the fault of a male somewhere along the line. Generally speaking though, I find that women are just as capable of lying (and generally more believed) than men. Again, just my personal experience so don't bother replying prowlerzee, because I already know about the facts of women being abused more than men, getting killed by men, etc., etc.
All I'm saying is that Joseph is right that the left has gone a bit too far in taking the word of women over men in the past couple decades. OF COURSE a lot of men lie and abuse women. That does not automatically mean every single woman should be taken at her word without any corroboration or evidence.
Gus, one of these days I'll tell you about a woman named Christa...
Every man should date a Christa. Every woman should have one lesbian affair with a Christa. Once the entire human race has received the Christa treatment, the entire human race will be cured of the delusion that All Women Are Always Honest.
That said, if one of Epstein's girls does tell a false "Clinton raped me" story, that girl won't be a Christa. Christa was a transcendental creature whose motivations had nothing to do with money.
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