Sunday, March 09, 2014

Mystery snipers



(Note: The great Ukrainian sniper mystery now has its own "Zapruder film." At the end of this post, we will have more to say about the video presentation embedded above.)

A couple of posts down, we looked at the very revelatory Paet/Ashton conversation about the "mystery snipers" who -- arguably -- created the current Ukraine crisis. That telephone conversation alerted the world to a genuine mystery: Who were these unseen gunmen? Whose side where they on? Infuriatingly, the Paet/Ashton call has received very little coverage in the US media -- not even on the left side of the blogosphere.

There was a time when an allegation of this sort would generate widespread discussion. The official deniers would be forced to stand before cameras and harrumph and snort and officially deny. The president himself might feel obligated to say something.

But now...
I just ran a search of the NewsBank database for what the database purports to be 3,253 U.S.-based media sources for the period March 3 – 7, 2014.

My search parameters were: sniper* and (Ashton or Paet or Estonia*).

NewsBank was able to find a total of eight items in the U.S.-based media that mentioned this revelation. A stunning example not only of non-coverage of an important revelation (the truth of which requires verification, of course). But of suppression of an important revelation, plain and simple.

The corporate-controlled information system of the United States is magnificent when it comes to creating the illusion that we are awash with news about the world. [2] No wonder Liz Wahl fled from her job as a presenter over the RT-USA cable TV channel on March 5, justifying her resignation on grounds that she’s “proud to be an American” and doesn’t like the nasty things that RT-USA reports about her country.
Side note: I didn't talk about the Wahl thing when it happened, but perhaps I should have. The more I found out about her, the more difficulty I had understanding why such a pro-American, anti-Russian individual ever took a job with RT. Perhaps her job was akin to Lee Harvey Oswald's alleged "defection" to the USSR. If she lands a gig with Fox -- well, some of us will need no further evidence.

(It may seem silly to mention LHO in this context. On the other hand, if you're an American, which historical event comes first to your mind when the talk turns to mystery gunmen and a change of government?)

Let's get back to our main topic. The sniper mystery has received some mainstream attention. Here's CNN, and here's AP. (The latter story does not mention Paet, but does refer indirectly to the call.)
The government's new health minister — a doctor who helped oversee medical treatment for casualties during the protests — told The Associated Press that the similarity of bullet wounds suffered by opposition victims and police indicates the shooters were trying to stoke tensions on both sides and spark even greater violence, with the goal of toppling Yanukovych.

"I think it wasn't just a part of the old regime that (plotted the provocation), but it was also the work of Russian special forces who served and maintained the ideology of the (old) regime," Health Minister Oleh Musiy said.

Putin has pushed the idea that the sniper shootings were ordered by opposition leaders, while Kremlin officials have pointed to a recording of a leaked phone call between Estonia's foreign minister and the European Union's foreign policy chief as evidence to back up that version.
On Tuesday, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov signaled that investigators may be turning their attention away from Ukrainian responsibility.

"I can say only one thing: the key factor in this uprising, that spilled blood in Kiev and that turned the country upside down and shocked it, was a third force," Avakov was quoted as saying by Interfax. "And this force was not Ukrainian."
(Emphasis added.) I'm not sure who the gunmen were, but this writer has noted some perturbing parallels...
There is a related type of false flag operation commonly used to create chaos and discredit regimes or protesters: snipers.

For example:

Unknown snipers reportedly killed both Venezuelan government and opposition protesters in the attempted 2002 coup

Unknown snipers fired during Thailand’s 2010 protests

Unknown snipers allegedly have created bedlam in Syria

A Russian general alleges that – during Yeltsin’s protest in front of the Russian parliament – sniper fire came from the roof of the American Embassy

And the Estonian foreign minister claims that the new Ukranian coalition deployed snipers to discredit the former government of Ukraine

Brutal … but effective and cheap.

Because it doesn’t cost much to hire one or a handful of snipers to access rooftops or bridge overpasses, create chaos, and then quietly disappear.
A comment appended to that blog post seems particularly well-researched. I will take the liberty of reprinting it...
Nikolay Starikov tells of several cases of unknown snipers shooting at civilians and military

In february 1917 unknown machine gunners massacred civilians and the tsar regime was blamed.

In october 1993 during Yeltsins westernbacked coup General Sorokin said at a Special State Duma Commission session, according to a verbatim report cited by Dmitry Rogozin, former Russian ambassador to NATO: “They were shot from the back. I saw it with my own eyes. “Fire was coming from the roof of the American Embassy, from the bell tower near Hotel Mir. All our soldiers were shot from the back. I do not know who the shooters were, but I could make a guess.”

....But the young soldiers were not the only victims of Black October. Starikov says, “Many residents of Moscow were shot by mysterious snipers – the American Embassy was not the only firing point. They shot at passersby. Their aim remained the same – to imitate ‘crimes’, stir up a rebellion, and incite fratricidal war.”

In Starikov’s view the shooters were not amateurs, but high-ranked professionals. How does he make that assessment? “Remember the shot made at Gennady Sergeev, a Special Forces officer, in front of the White House,” he says. “The bullet went in between the lower edge of his helmet and the upper edge of his bullet-proof vest.”

...According to Starikov, unknown snipers acted in a similar fashion in Kyrgyzstan, Iran, Thailand and Romania, targeting women, children and youth, the segments of the population that government forces are least likely to fire at.

In each of these countries, sniper intervention came only when Western diplomacy was seen to be failing.
Tulsa World has seen fit to mention the mystery snipers, but -- unsurprisingly -- places the blame on Putin.
Forensic evidence, in particular the similarity of the bullet wounds, led him and others to conclude that snipers were targeting both sides of the standoff at Maidan — and that the shootings were intended to generate a wave of revulsion so strong that it would topple Yanukovych and also justify a Russian invasion.
This theory has problems, to say the least. Foremost among those problems is this inconvenient fact: If the snipers were Russian, why have Russian sources tirelessly publicized the Paet/Ashton call, which most of the American media treats as a non-event? Before that call hit YouTube, most of us had no clue that a sniper mystery even existed; everyone presumed that the cops fired on unarmed demonstrators.

Russia wants her oil to flow unimpeded through pipelines which run through Ukraine. I fail to see how that goal is eased by a possible civil war in that country.

The video embedded at the top of this post -- which, I must warn you, is grim and sometimes difficult to watch -- argues that the bullets did not come from the police but from the opposite direction. I don't claim that this presentation is either unbiased or thoroughly convincing. However, it does give us a better idea as to where the victims were and what they underwent. To my eyes, the most compelling piece of video evidence comes around the 4:22 mark.

If you have an alternate interpretation, please share!

9 comments:

Stephen Morgan said...

Ganser's Gladio book has a case too, snipers firing on a demonstration in Turkey who were probably Grey Wolves.

b said...

Some quick points.

1) Don't take anyone's view seriously if they ignore the Ukrainian secret police, the SBU. If they refer humorously to the "(F)SBU", they're saying it belongs to the KGB (my preferred acronym for the Russian FSB/SVR). The truth is that the KGB has a big share in it.

2) What building did the CIA use in Kiev? I've checked the embassy - it's too far away from where the action was.

3) By alleging that "this force was not Ukrainian", Arsen Avakov is playing to the blue-and-yellow pro-western market, with its flags out if not necessarily its tits. Ukrainian nationalism is their big thing. They own it. He's alluding to Russia, a country he wishes to paint as embodying the essence of what's non-Ukrainian. Not the EU or the West. Not Germany, the US, or Israel (three countries each of which has been said to have had nationals involved in the armed action in Kiev.) Russia. I actually think the KGB was involved, and I still reckon he's got a hard job. The KGB weren't the only ones who were out there.

Is Avakov still on the FBI wanted list, BTW? Or did they take him off? He belongs to the Braided Witch, Timoshchenko.

Semion Mogilevich is still on the FBI list. Gordon Thomas once suggested Mog was funding the Blairs. Something to do with Wembley Stadium in London.

Klitsch has managed to stay off the list so far.

As for Serhiy Taruta, the putschists' governor of Donetsk, all the commentators are saying gangster rule means stability and he's the guy of the moment, partly because he and his fellow "oligarchs" have so much "respect". The lexical field from which the Guardian draws its terms includes words such as stable, fixed, respect and smooth. I reckon Yank-backed Yats had no fucking choice.

"Although most of Ukraine's business elite have strong ties with Moscow, if the east of the country were to fall under the influence of the Kremlin then Ukraine's billionaires would quickly be overrun by their wealthier and better connected Russian counterparts. 'The Ukrainian oligarchs have no political influence over Putin,' says Leshchenko. 'If the east were to secede, their businesses would be snatched. They would become the small businessmen of a Russian province'." What a load of crap! As if they give a toss what coloured flag flies over the government buildings.

4) "(Before Paet-Ashton) everyone presumed that the cops fired on unarmed demonstrators." Well you may have done. I certainly didn't! At least I didn't think that was what kicked things off. The sheer number of deaths; the fact that 'militias' had already formed; and the extreme unlikeliness that such a massacre would help the existing government (unlike in Paris in 1961, when the cops killed scores, perhaps even hundreds, of anti-colonial demonstrators and absolutely nothing about it got mentioned in either the media or the national assembly, in Kiev there was already dual power) - these facts all suggest the improbability of either the police initiating the massacre by getting out of control or the police acting on government orders.

What about the reports of German and US 'mercenaries'? I think they appeared before the Paet-Ashton story.

b said...

Former SBU deputy head Hennadiy Moskal, who appears to be a Braided Witch asset, says the snipers were from the Interior Ministry and SBU and were ordered to shoot both 'protestors' (if we can use that term) and police.

I'm told Klitsch is mates with certain senior parties in the SBU.

Of course the US and German and British spook manipulators, who had not hundreds but thousands of people out on the streets in Kiev, knew nothing and were taken completely by surprise; nor did they have any areas of cooperation with their Russian counterparts in the KGB, who were also out in force in what really is their backyard, and only a conspiracy nut might suspect otherwise.

stickler said...

From Britain's The Telegraph:

Our correspondent, Damien McElroy, has spoken to the doctor at the centre of the claims that snipers that shot people in Kiev were hired by Maidan leaders:
Olga Bogomolets said she had not told Mr Paet that policemen and protesters had been killed in the same manner.
"Myself I saw only protesters. I do not know the type of wounds suffered by military people," she told The Telegraph. "I have no access to those people."
But she said she had asked for a full forensic criminal investigation into the deaths that occurred in the Maidan. "No one who just sees the wounds when treating the victims can make a determination about the type of weapons. I hope international experts and Ukrainian investigators will make a determination of what type of weapons, who was involved in the killings and how it was done. I have no data to prove anything.
"I was a doctor helping to save people on the square. There were 15 people killed on the first day by snipers. They were shot directly to the heart, brain and arteries. There were more than 40 the next day, 12 of them died in my arms.
"Our nation has to ask the question who were the killers, who asked them to come to Ukraine. We need good answers on the basis of expertise."
Mr Paet's assertion that an opposition figure was behind the Maidan massacre was not one she could share.
"I think you can only say something like this on the basis of fact," she said. "Its not correct and its not good to do this. It should be based on fact."
She said the new government in Kiev had assured her a criminal investigation had begun but that she had not direct contact with it so far.
"They told me they have begun a criminal process and if they say that I believe them. The police have not given me any information on it."

CBarr said...


"Ex Ukrainian Prime Minister Under Timoshenko Caught With Sniper Rifle and Silencer. Accidentally caught by his fellow protesters when they decided to search a car leaving independence square."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa3YJYlJIR8

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3e0_1392899402

Dojo Rat said...

If his sources are correct, William Engdahl at Global Research may have an answer as to who the snipers are.

Here's a bit I wrote and some of Engdahl's reporting:

http://www.dojorat.com/the-neo-cons-the-nazis-and-the-snipers/

From Engdahl's article:

“A secretive neo-nazi military organization reported linked to NATO played a decisive role in targeted sniper attacks and violence that led to the collapse of the elected government.”
***
Snipers began shooting into the crowd on February 22 in Maidan or Independence Square. Panic ensued and riot police retreated in panic according to eyewitnesses. The opposition leader Vitali Klitschko withdrew from the deal, no reason given. Yanukovich fled Kiev.[3]

The question unanswered until now is who deployed the snipers? According to veteran US intelligence sources, the snipers came from an ultra-right-wing military organization known as Ukrainian National Assembly – Ukrainian People’s Self-Defense (UNA-UNSO).
***
Strange Ukraine ‘Nationalists’

The leader of UNA-UNSO, Andriy Shkil, ten years ago became an adviser to Julia Tymoshenko. UNA-UNSO, during the US-instigated 2003-2004 “Orange Revolution”, backed pro-NATO candidate Viktor Yushchenko against his pro-Russian opponent, Yanukovich. UNA-UNSO members provided security for the supporters of Yushchenko and Julia Tymoshenko on Independence Square in Kiev in 2003-4.[4]

UNA-UNSO is also reported to have close ties to the German National Democratic Party (NDP). [5]

Ever since the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 the crack-para-military UNA-UNSO members have been behind every revolt against Russian influence. The one connecting thread in their violent campaigns is always anti-Russia. The organization, according to veteran US intelligence sources, is part of a secret NATO “GLADIO” organization, and not a Ukraine nationalist group as portrayed in western media. [6]

According to these sources, UNA-UNSO have been involved (confirmed officially) in the Lithuanian events in the Winter of 1991, the Soviet Coup d’etat in Summer 1991, the war for the Pridnister Republic 1992, the anti-Moscow Abkhazia War 1993, the Chechen War, the US-organized Kosovo Campaign Against the Serbs, and the August 8 2008 war in Georgia. According to these reports, UNA-UNSO para-military have been involved in every NATO dirty war in the post-cold war period, always fighting on behalf of NATO. “These people are the dangerous mercenaries used all over the world to fight NATO’s dirty war, and to frame Russia because this group pretends to be Russian special forces. THESE ARE THE BAD GUYS, forget about the window dressing nationalists, these are the men behind the sniper rifles,” these sources insist. [7]

If true that UNA-UNSO is not “Ukrainian” opposition, but rather a highly secret NATO force using Ukraine as base, it would suggest that the EU peace compromise with the moderates was likely sabotaged by the one major player excluded from the Kiev 21 February diplomatic talks—Victoria Nuland’s State Department.[8] Both Nuland and right-wing Republican US Senator John McCain have had contact with the leader of the Ukrainian opposition Svoboda Party, whose leader is openly anti-semitic and defends the deeds of a World War II Ukrainian SS-Galicia Division head.[9] The party was registered in 1995, initially calling itself the “Social National Party of Ukraine” and using a swastika style logo. Svoboda is the electoral front for neo-nazi organizations in Ukraine such as UNA-UNSO.[10]

One further indication that Nuland’s hand is shaping latest Ukraine events is the fact that the new Ukrainian Parliament is expected to nominate Nuland’s choice, Arseny Yatsenyuk, from Tymoshenko’s party, to be interim head of the new Cabinet.

Whatever the final truth, clear is that Washington has prepared a new economic rape of Ukraine using its control over the International Monetary Fund (IMF).








CBarr said...

Peripheral to the Kiev snipers; Hullabaloo has two posts about the recent Conservative Political Action Committee (CPAC). Rand Paul had the spotlight, but there is an understory about old guard republican party benefiting from the recent events in Ukraine. Young isolationist conservatives are reawakening to the allure of a neocon stance towards Russia. What convenient timing for the upcoming presidential primaries this is... assuming we aren't all dead before then.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/so-much-for-gops-youth-outreach.html

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/a-party-in-tatters-by-davidoatkins.html

amspirnational said...

If "young isolationist conservatives" are allured by Zionist dominated neocon Coldwarring, over Ukraine events, their isolationism was as shallow as Hillary Clinton's Arkie status
when she and scalawag Georgetown- Oxford Bill Yankeedefiled that state.

CBarr said...

Pepe Escobar linked to this article. It lays out in detail what happened with the sniper shootings.

"March 13, 2014 "Information Clearing House - "RT"- Former chief of Ukraine’s Security Service has confirmed allegations that snipers who killed dozens of people during the violent unrest in Kiev operated from a building controlled by the opposition on Maidan square."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37929.htm