Friday, June 29, 2012

Treason? Sedition?

In the wake of the Supreme Court's decision on Obamacare, former GOP spokesperson Matt Davis calls for an armed uprising against the government of the United States. His language is explicit.
If government can mandate that I pay for something I don’t want, then what is beyond its power? If the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday paves the way for unprecedented intrusion into personal decisions, then has the Republic all but ceased to exist? If so, then is armed rebellion today justified?

God willing, this oppression will be lifted and America free again before the first shot is fired.
When asked for clarification, Davis responded:
“You can’t have people walking with lattes and signs and think the object of your opposition is going to take you seriously. Armed rebellion is the end point of that physical confrontation.”
Does this language qualify as treasonous? No, though I think it ought to. Article 3 of the Constitution reads thus:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Supreme Court ruled early on that charges of treason can be brought only if there is an actual "assembling of men."

Davis may, however, be guilty of sedition, as defined by this chapter of the U.S. Code. To be specific, 18 USC § 2385 address the question of advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government. Since so much Republican rhetoric has slipped into this dangerous territory, I will inflict the full wording on my readers:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As near as I can tell, the last person convicted of sedition in the United States was "the Blind Sheik," Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, who was involved with the first World Trade Center conspiracy in 1993. But did the above-quoted statute apply to him? Even though Rahman certainly deserves to spend his life in prison, I don't think he ever advocated the overthrow of the United States government.

Davis did. Or at least, he came that close to doing so.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Most hilarious thing I saw yesterday: a Repug tweet that read "I'm moving to Canada, the United States is entirely too socialist."

Commenter on Charlie Pierce's blog nailed it: "This is beyond sore-losing. The GOP is like a jilted, angry, unstable spouse: if can't have America, then nobody else can, either."

And now, this morning, this bit of insanity: "IF OBAMA THREATENED TO KILL CHELSEA, THEN MIGHT HE THREATEN A JUSTICE OF THE SCOTUS TO SAVE OBAMACARE?"

"IF THIS IS TRUE - REPEAT IF, THEN IT IS EQUALLY POSSIBLE THAT THESE SAME CRONIES MIGHT THREATEN TO KILL ONE OF CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS' CHILDREN IN ORDER TO GET HIM TO VOTE FOR OBAMACARE."

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2012/06/why-did-roberts-switch-his-vote-was-he.html

Fasten your seatbelts; we're in for a bumpy ride. I just hope that Obama's Secret Service detail isn't too distracted by hookers and blow to do their job.

Joseph Cannon said...

Anon -- any chance you could get me a citation for that Canada remark? I don't mean to put you to any trouble, but that line is just TOO freakin' hilarious.

Lea said...

No trouble at all:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare

Alessandro Machi said...

I think you misunderstood Joseph, he meant to say throw the Latte when at arms length from one's intended target, and use foam to soften the blow.

Joseph, don't you think that Justice Roberts confused what a penalty is verses what a tax is in regards to Obama Care?

Justice Roberts Confuses Taxes
and Penalties in regards to Obama Care.

Anonymous said...

According to Thomas Jefferson, an armed rebellion every now and then is a good thing. The Federal Government thinks it owns the citizens. The only treason in this country is the elected officials ruinous actions against us.

Anonymous said...

Treason-baggers working with the spooks to destabilize and collapse the USA. So what's new???

Is anyone looking into who started those dozen or so fires in Colorado? Or those dozen or so fires in Arizona recently?

See, it is only in the USA that year after year, massive wild fires hit the USA multiple times a year. It's not happening in other countries. Looking at a list of wildfires below, it seems that the odd increase in U.S. wildfires started right about 2000-2001. Imagine that? The same year that, that other big destabilizing event called 9/11 occurred:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wildfires

Let's talk about Republican agitator Darrell Issa. Issa's mother is Mormon while his father was Eastern Orthodox Christian Lebanese. It seems that in 2001, Issa was in Syria and Lebanon campaigning on behalf of Syria and Hezbollah. At least that's what Hate Hag Debbie Schlussel tells us. And she does seem to have part of this story correct.

Eastern Orthodox Christian.... interesting...

In 2001 the Jesuit Superior General AKA “Black Pope” was Peter Hans Kolvenbach. Before going to Rome he had spent time in the Netherlands and in Beirut Lebanon. He studied linguistics(spy?) and was associated with the Armenian Eastern-rite church in communion with Rome. During the Armenian Genocide in the early 1900s the Armenian Catholic Church was scattered into Lebanon and Syria where it is primarily centered now according to the good ol' wikipedia. Interestingly, one of the "hijackers" was Lebanese and attended an Eastern Rite Catholic school in Lebanon... Ziad Jarrah attended La Sagesse Catholic school in Beirut Lebanon. This school is tied to the Eastern Catholic Maronite church in full communion with Rome. Ah...the plot thickens... Ziad Jarrah's family have claimed he was simply an innocent passenger on the plane and not a hijacker.

The media has fed us the story that Jarrah was an angry hijacker regardless of those smiling pictures we see of him on the webz. Here is one of a few bullshit photos of Jarrah and some of his “friends” :
http://www.historycommons.org/events-images/a999jarrahfriends_2050081722-8094.jpg

Notice the weird lack of shadows and heads oddly attached to bodies?

Here is what a real group photo looks like:
http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-new/ds-photo/getty/article/83/118/80601866_XS.jpg

The difference? Casting of shadows. Shadows under chins, on faces. The bullshit photo came from two news sources according to historycommons.. Agence France-Presse and German news agency DDP. I assume they in turn got the bullshit photos from German intelligence. We are told by Jarrah's Turkish girlfriend from Germany, Aysel Senguen that Ziad Jarrah is a fundy Muslim terrorist. The German BKA agency will then collect Jarrah's DNA sample from the apartment of this Turkish girlfriend and then pass that DNA sample to the FBI which Turkish-Iranian Sibel Edmonds tells us is penetrated by Turkish spy Melek Can Dickerson who then is allowed to flee to a U.S. Air Force base...hold your breath.... IN GERMANY where she has been working for Turkish intelligence MIT all along. Hmmmm.... The Turkish spy penetrated FBI will then identify that DNA from Jarrah's Turkish girlfriend's apartment as a match to DNA magically found in that empty hole in Shanksville PA which apparently holds human remains but no remains from the fucking plane. Voila, Ziad Jarrad is therefore one of the flight 93 hijackers. Now at this time, Sibel Edmonds tells us that the FBI's Turkish and Farsi translation department is run by a Lebanese guy named Feghali who is allowing Turkish spy Melek Can Dickerson to coverup Turkish wiretaps.

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Anonymous said...

NASA, Nazis and Muslim Brotherhood?
Jarrah's Catholic and Lebanon ties are interesting.... Between 1998 and 2003 the President and CEO of Raytheon was Daniel P. Burnham. Burnham is a graduate of Catholic Jesuit run Xavier University in Cincinnati Ohio. Raytheon has collaborated with U.S. Air Force Aeronautical Systems Center at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio on technology for unmanned aircraft.

Wright Field (Wright-Patterson AFB) was the staging ground where German aircraft technology and Operation Paperclip scientists were brought during and after WWII. Some of these scientists would go on to be integrated into NASA.

Raytheon, a manufacturer of remote control plane technology was teamed up with Able Danger in Garland Texas. Able Danger was data-mining(fabricating?) ties of the 9/11 hijackers. Turkish/Saudi Arms trafficking CIA destabilization pimp Adnan Khashoggi had also been tied to Raytheon, Iran/Contra activities in Toronto Ontario, Canada, and to Oryx and Mormon Wally Hilliard's Huffman Aviation in Florida where the hijackers trained... Kashoggi is also alleged by Canadian Peter Dale Scott using sources from Russian Pravda to have given support to Chechnyan separatists involved with destabilization efforts against the Chechen government and Russians.

During Bush's reign, a string of Catholic administrators ran NASA and the dumbing down of NASA began in earnest. After Ohio connected Goldin resigned, from November 19, 2001 - December 21, 2001 Daniel Mulville is running NASA. He has a PHD from Catholic University of America. In February 2003 it is under Sean O'Keefe that the space shuttle Columbia disaster occurs. O'Keefe also downplays global warming and does not allow NASA to discuss it. After O'Keefe comes Michael Griffin another whackjob who dumbs down NASA.

These last two NASA administrators both had ties to Jesuit run Universities interestingly... Sean O'Keefe had attended Jesuit run Loyola University in New Orleans. O'Keefe later went on to work for notorious Penn State U. and also for the European aerospace firm EADS. He died in a plane crash in 2010. His successor Michael Griffin had attended Jesuit run Loyola University of Maryland.

Is a Lebanon/Syria cabal the real wizard behind the screen on 9/11? They seemed to be positioned in all of the right places. But who is doing the positioning?

Atta, Jarrah and other alleged terrorists in the Hamburg Germany cell had originally planned to go to Chechnya to help the separatists fight the Russians. But those plans were derailed when two agents in Germany around the Duisburg area convinced them to travel instead to Afghanistan. One of those men was Mohamedou Ould Slahi. Slahi moved from Mauritania to Germany in 1988 on a scholarship with the Carl Duisberg Society and earned an engineering degree from the University of Duisberg. Mohammad Atta was also said to have gotten a scholarship from the Carl Duisberg society. 1988 was the same year that German Andreas Strassmeir was discharged from the German military. In 1989 Strassmeier was in the USA hanging out with U.S. Civil War reenacters and Neo-Nazis and trying to arrange to buy Boeing 747s alongside a guy named Vincent Petruskie.

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Anonymous said...

In 1989 the Berlin Wall had been brought down and Germany began the process of reunification . Andreas Strassmeier's father is said to have played a major role in German reunification. In 2012 Germany is the main force holding the European Union together by dictating orders to Greece, Spain, UK, France and other Euro countries during the current economic crisis.

Back to Slahi...Slahi had fought against the soviets in Aghanistan. He trained with Al-Qaeda. In 1999 he is said to have advised members of the Hamburg cell to travel to Afghanistan instead of to Chechnya. Slahi had moved to Flesh Eating Paradise Montreal Canada in November of 1999. He was a member of the same mosque as Ahmed Ressam who was caught with explosives crossing the Canadian border into the USA in December 1999 as part of the 2000 Millenium plot. Slahi was suspected of activating Ressam. So Slahi, who was based in Germany kicked off terrorism against the USA in 1999 using his alleged patsy Ressam, and then Slahi was involved with the 9/11 hijackers in 2001... AGAIN IN GERMANY with the assistance of the Carl Duisberg Society.

You may remember the recent fires in Los Angeles started by Harry Burkhart and his tantric masseuse mother also had a Canada-German-Chechnyan connection. And the recent Canadian Cannibal Luka Magnotta had a Canada-German-Arizona connection. Arizona like Colorado and Southern California also recently had a major series of wildfires. In fact the Arizona fires broke out at essentially the same time as the Luka Magnotta cannibal story in Tea-Baggin' ex-DEA in Turkey agent Joe Arpaio's neck of the woods.

Back to that asshole Issa... so at the same exact moment that the USA is ramping up its destabilization efforts against Syria and Iran(June 2012)... internally within the USA, agitators like Darrell Issa and agitators in Arizona(ex Turkish DEA guy Sheriff Arpaio and Fast Furious agents) are agitating against Obama and the Justice department based on something Holder didn't even do. In fact Fortune Magazine tells us THE AGITATORS IN ARIZONA ARE THE REAL SOURCE OF THE GUNWALKING.

THE UNITED STATES IS BEING DESTABILIZED FROM WITHIN

WAKE UP

Are the Pussified Democrats going to fight back against the right on the Fast and Furious case and investigate the agitating agents in Arizona giving guns to Mexican drug cartels which then used them to terrorize Mexico(destabilize it further)?

Any Pussified Democrats going to look deeper at the campaign of destabilization and collapse being run on the United States of America since 2001?

The United States of America is being destabilized FROM WITHIN. This didn't start in 2001. It started after the First Iraq war when certain Americans centered it seems around Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Florida and New York with connections into the FBI and CIA and to intelligence agencies in Germany, Pakistan, the Philippines, Israel, Russia and Saudi Arabia began a campaign of internal domestic terrorism attacks on the USA. The old Nazi Muslim Broterhood networks. Isn't the New Muslim Brotherhood guy in Egypt also a NASA guy? Go figure.

NONE DARE CALL IT WHAT IT IS: A CONSPIRACY WITHIN... TREASON.

webslinger

Anonymous said...

Webslinger, start your own blog.


-purenoiz

Anonymous said...

Big Fat Puzzle time!!!

What do the following prominent lefties have in common?

A. Arianna Huffington *
B. Markos Moulitsas **
C. George Tenet
D. Cenk Uygur
E. Sibel Edmonds ***

1. Greece
2. Turkey
3. Cypriot
3. Anti-Commie
4. CIA Ties
5. Hummus

* was a righty, now a lefty
** family is wealthy and righty
*** Definitely not a lefty based on her associations (Pat Buchannan, VeteransToday.com)

I am NOT questioning their motives. And I am not questioning their loyalties. In fact I believe them all to be trying to help America in their own way. To grasp what is going on, people need to STOP THINKING IN PURELY BLACK AND WHITE... STRICTLY LEFT=GOOD AND STRICTLY RIGHT=BAD MENTALITY. THE WORLD DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. For the left to start having left leaning leadership again, it is going to have to disentangle and disabuse itself from a few popular fairytales that have allowed the extreme right to trap and game the left.

So WHAT do these 5 have in common? How did they get to be in the prominent positions they are in? WHO put them up as front men for the left? WHY were they put there? Regardless of the fact that these individuals may mean well, if the CIA or other groups are secretly backing them with or without their knowledge what important bit of 9/11 knowledge has their prominence on the left caused the left to suppress? What might they themselves be suppressing, due to the fact they are too close to the subject matter due to ethnicity?

HINT : Go google the words GLADIO, CYPRIOT and GRAY WOLVES to understand the deep history. Then if you want more... go read up on anti-commie Zbigniew Brzezinski's concept of the GRAND CHESSBOARD in which we all find ourselves entrapped today. Zbigniew Brzezinski like Pope John Paul II is Polish. Nothing wrong with that. But knowing they are Polish helps you understand the deeper story. JPII was shot by a Turkish guy being backed by the Gray Wolves and German BND so goes the story. Why? It all boils down to a Commie/Anti-Commie struggle at the time involving former Soviet states.

Reread my post above this one.

ws

p.s. for more shits and giggles, go google the backgrounds of the 9/11 pilots of the hijacked planes.