In that light, I talked about a fascist leader in Russia named Ilya Lazarenko, who runs an ominous group called the National Front. Lazarenko is a staunch racist. He praises Hitler, espouses dictatorship, and believes that the Holocaust never happened. The flag of his movement features a symbol which is as close to a swastika as you can get without actually being a swastika (which is illegal in Russia).
And yet Lazarenko was a welcome guest in Israel -- while I probably would not be allowed to enter the country.
Why? Because Lazarenko hates Muslims even more than he hates Jews, and consequently applauded Israel's recent attack on Gaza. Thus, he and other Russian Nazis were feted and applauded by a coalition of right-wing Israelis, who actually invited him to speak at one of their gatherings.
I condemned this situation. So would any thinking individual.
The response? Andy Lewis, the guy who runs a site called ProSemite Undercover left a succinct comment:
Fuck off and die, Nazi filth.Note the new definition of the word "Nazi." It is no longer to be applied to racists like Lazarenko, who admires Adolf and runs a modern variant of the Nazi party. Neither is that term ever to be applied to the racist Israelis who think that Lazarenko is a peach of a fellow.
No. The term applies to me for condemning Lazarenko and his Israeli friends.
Something very ugly and very wrong has happened to Jews like Andy. I prefer to think that most Jews remain untouched by the insanity that has so clearly gripped him.
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Another pro-Israeli Russian fascist is the National Bolshevik Alexander Dugin.
The 'Eurostan' and 'Eurabia' propaganda - a Zionist effort if ever there was one - bears a lot of the blame for the availability of people suffering from mindsets similar to what Breivik's appears to be.
Prevent 'Eurostan' is exactly what this man seems to have thought he was doing. It's an insane aim, based on an insane premise. And there is a concerted effort to promote this premise in the mainstream media, by people who know what they are doing. This effort fully deserves to be called fascist.
Both the 'Economist' and the 'Spectator' have run cover articles scare-mongering about 'Eurabia'. I first learnt about this in Breivik's mad '2083' video, where he shows pictures of them. At first I thought they might be fake, but they're not.
How come he managed to avoid military service? You can't avoid military service in Norway by saying you don't like the main political parties.
And that business he was running, with 6 employees, widely spread about - in Norway, Russia, Romania, and Indonesia. It was 'outsourcing software services'. What's that about? Does he know a lot about the computer services industry? Where did he learn? Are these 'employees' going to be interviewed? Or did their 'offices' mysteriously close down?
The 'Daily Mail' calls Breivik's stepmother Tove Overno an "embassy worker". I suspect she is a spook, and wouldn't be surprised if his father had experience in that area too. (His father now lives in a village a few miles from Rennes-le-Chateau; I have no idea whether he suffers from 'Templar problems').
Curiously Breivik appears to have had a lot of interest in calling the BBC Marxist and Muslim... Why the BBC in particular?
And the big question...what was "Richard's" role?
Joe - you might be interested in what Gilad Atzmon is saying. He asks whether the massacre was a reaction to calls for BDS and their importance in Norway. I had speculated along similar lines in comments at this blog, although I also brought in the UN's September meeting. Gilad may be unaware that some minor divestment by the Oil Fund has already taken place.
I know Norway pretty well, compared to most people outside of that country. Pretty much everyone there has heard of the Utøya summer camp. Political parties are big in Norway - most middle class urbanites belong to either Venstre or the Labour Party. The youth section (AUF) of the Labour Party is also very important. It's almost always taken as given that the head of the LP will have been head of its youth section.
So what AUF head Eskil Pedersen has been saying about Israel is of some significance. He will probably be prime minister some day.
What everyone knows about the Utøya camp is that a widely-publicised resolution comes out of it, every year.
The question is - was this year's resolution going to be about Palestine? Was it going to be a call for boycotts, divestment, and sanctions, perhaps bundled with support for recognising Palestinian sovereignty in September?
I strongly suspect the answer is yes.
So do some of the Zionazis who posted comments to the Hebrew article which Gilad mentions. I don't know Hebrew. Apparently the article is about how wicked the AUF have been, in daring to criticise Israel.
Some of the commenters to the article have been openly supportive of the massacre. One made the following obscene comments: "We have a bunch of haters of Israel meeting in a country that hates Israel in a conference that endorses the boycott.. So it's not okay, not nice, really a tragedy for families, and we condemn the act itself, but to cry about it? Come on. We Jews are not Christians. In the Jewish religion there is no obligation to love or mourn for the enemy."
You know, there are idiots of every race and religion. Catholicism is hardly free of dummies. I personally wouldnt choose to highlight the jewishness of some idiot, in case people thought I was generalising. Given a choice between saying "The idiot happens to be Jewish," or "The Jew happens to be an idiot", I tend to stick to the former. You cant be too careful. Its easy to offend idiots.
That said, I have met most of my quota of personal quota of idiots who happen to be Jewish in the US. For fewer of them in Israel in my experience. I blame the schools. One particular New Yorker stood out in my memory(this was pre Irish "peace deal"), as he justified some particularly stringent crack down on Palestinian arabs by noting the problems with terrorism and asking me whether I could imagine what living in a city with a daily threat of terrorism was like.
My reply was to ask "You mean like London?".
This particular idiot wore a kipur, but idiocy remained his defining characteristic, not jewishness.
Harry
Breivik has admitted carrying out this massacre. I leave aside the question of whether there was a second shooter on the island. Why are so many media headline writers referring to him as an "attacker", "killer", and "gunman" rather than what he also is - a terrorist?
This article, in German, reports that several of the young people at Utøya thought the shooting was a simulation of Israeli shooting at Arabs in Palestine.
I don't know whether this is someone's analogy, or whether it is means that after the discussions on Palestine some people had reason to think initially that the shooting was some kind of political theatre, maybe with stage blood etc.
What would be totally fucking weird, would be if a second 'shooter' was actually doing some 'theatre'. But I suppose that would probably have been reported by now.
"Some of the commenters to the article have been openly supportive of the massacre. One made the following obscene comments: "We have a bunch of haters of Israel meeting in a country that hates Israel in a conference that endorses the boycott.. So it's not okay, not nice, really a tragedy for families, and we condemn the act itself, but to cry about it? Come on. We Jews are not Christians. In the Jewish religion there is no obligation to love or mourn for the enemy.""
Yikes! Another assh*le.
Thank you for the colour b
For what little its worth, my understanding of christianity and the teachings of Hillel for that matter is that there is no obligation to love or mourn the enemy. Its a recommendation for living a better, richer life, not an obligation.
The best thing we can do with such views is shine light on them. Let everyone see that these views are expressed.
Harry
I asked what the big Utøya resolution was going to be this year. I hope to find out soon.
Eskil Pedersen, the leader of the AUF (youth section of the Norwegian Labour Party), gave an interview to 'Dagbladet' 2 days before the massacre in which he referred to the decision at last year's conference to call for Norway to impose a unilateral economic embargo on Israel. Was this going to be said even louder this time? I suspect so.
Pedersen survived the massacre. It's going to be interesting to hear what he says.
Two pieces of background to the specificity of Norwegian policy towards its one-time big friend (and heavy water customer) Israel.
1) The Norwegian 'political class', and in particular the Labour Party part of it, is extremely hereditary and nepotistic. 40 years ago, it was possible for an occasional person with a background as a trade union bureaucrat, and who did not attend university, to become a leading politician in the Labour Party. Nowadays, that doesn't happen. Practically everyone in the leadership comes from the small Oslo bourgeoisie, and is the son or daughter or perhaps niece or nephew of someone who themselves was also a leading Labour politician.
This is why some reports refer to the Utøya camp as being for the Labour youth leaders, and others refer to it as being for the sons and daughters of the current Labour leadership. In fact, these are mostly the same people!
Why is this relevant? Well, let's face it, a lot of people in positions of influence and authority in western countries are too shit-scared to say anything too critical about Zionist influence and Israeli crimes in public, because they think it might adversely affect their careers. But that's not always so in private, in their own homes, to their own families.
Norway may have quite a lot of people in the up-and-coming generation of the Labour Party (a party which used to be very friendly with the Israeli Labour Party) who have been brought up hearing from their mums and dads what Israel is really all about. Brown-nosing Israel at work must lead mum and dad to 'let rip' sometimes in the privacy of their own homes. And in Norway, this means in front of the next generation of the party leadership.
So it isn't something that hits youngish Labour pols one day when they're in their 30s for five minutes, and then their 'career personas' squelch whatever critical idea about Israel arose in their heads.
Maybe they want not to be such a bunch of pathetic crawlers as their mums and dads. Maybe their mums and dads, one way or another, have a little bit of admiration for this attitude.
This shouldn't be exaggerated, because few people in any country get to be top pols who haven't practised, practised, and practised again to be 'safe pairs of hands'. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.
2) The second matter is oil. Norway is one of the biggest oil exporters in the world: the second largest outside of OPEC, after Russia.
The money accrued by the state is salted away in an 'Oil Fund', which doesn't get invested inside the country. It's paid into the second biggest sovereign investment fund in the world; only the UAE's is bigger.
So the market price for oil is an extremely important consideration in the long-term strategy of the Norway-based part of the ruling class. And that's not something you can keep under control on your own. They must keep friendly with the oil sheikhs in a day-to-day way that wouldn't be so necessary if their main relations with them were based on 10-year-long weapons contracts.
As a result of the above, the youth section of the Norwegian Labour Party is somewhat more important than it might sound...
You've probably already seen Vijay Prashad on 'Palestine's Norwegians' in Counterpunch
Dugin is not "pro-Israel." He's opposed to the American-Israeli Empire, considering it the biggest menace to any form of healthy cultural manifestation on Earth.
Dugin opposes Islamophobia and wants to incorporate Muslims in a Greater Russia, the foundation of which of course would be Christian and pagan Slavs.
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