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Friday, June 05, 2009

"White Power" in Israel

Good god. Have you seen this video yet? I am stunned. I'm no Obama fan, but this is the ugliest damned shit I've ever seen...



Believe it or not, the above video was censored from Huffington Post on the grounds that it "had no news value" and "did not move the conversation forward."

Most of the kids seen here hold American-Israeli dual citizenship. Some are American Jews doing the indoctrination tour of Israel. I hope that any American citizen who, on camera, has called for harm to befall the president will have to explain his or her words to the Secret Service.

Something very ugly is happening to Israeli and Jewish youth. These hate-filled fundamentalist fanatics are the true face of Zionism. Do not listen to the older folks who will come forward with reassuring blandishments. Don't believe it when they tell you: "These were just kids; they don't represent the way Jews really feel." Bullshit. This is the real thing. This is the way quite a few modern young Jews talk when they think goys aren't listening. Or maybe the sitch is worse than that: Apparently, they have become so arrogant that they feel that they safely cry for a president's murder even while the goys are listening.

Jeez, even Klansmen had enough decency (or sense) to hide their faces behind sheets. These turkeys are brazen.

Damn, I hate feeling defensive about this president, whose nomination I opposed strenuously many months. But as far as I am concerned, these young hoods who refer to our president as a "nigger" -- who make watermelon jokes, who call for Obama's murder, and who deride Obama as a Muslim and a terrorist -- deserve just one response:

Swim, baby, swim!

Sometimes, the proper response to a display of hate is counter-hate, and that's just what I am feeling now. Israelis and American Jews who consider black people inferior and worthy of being killed are themselves inferior and worthy of the same fate they would impose on others.

Don't expect me to apologize for that statement: I never will. People deserve to get what they give. The despicable creatures in this video are so suffused with hate-propaganda and the unearned presumption of racial superiority that they have gone beyond the reach of rational argument.

Israel, in its present racist form, must end. We need a single-state solution now.

The world must wake up. Jewish fundamentalism is just as vile and dangerous as are Islamic and Christian fundamentalism.
Comments:
Just commenting here: We've seen the same type of fundamentalism in Muslims and Christians, as you said.

What I see here are a bunch of drunk kids. Hell one didn't even know who Netanyahu is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkeZ2P4SiY8

And there are worse out there.
 
I knew that we'd hear that rationalization: Just a bunch of drunk kids.

In vino veritas, and all that. Drink merely prodded these thugs to speak out loud.

Well, I won't allow that sort of rationalization. Here are the words of Joseph Dana, who helped to create the video:

"

It’s about entitlement, stupid.

Max and I went on to the streets of Jerusalem at ten o’clock on a Wednesday to ascertain the feelings of the young population about Obama’s upcoming speech in Cairo. As is often the case, the streets of central Jerusalem were not filled with native Israelis but American Jews. Doubtlessly anyone who has visited Jerusalem has encountered the droves of American Jewish kids that are sent to Israel to study for a period of time from Teaneck or Westchester. We asked people a simple question, “What do you think of Obama and Israel?” Most of the people that we talked to were dual American Israeli citizens. The answers in this video reflect the education and worrisome perspectives that many American Jews harbor towards Israeli politics. The sense of entitlement that the American Jewish community has when it comes to Israeli policy is on full raw display in the words of these young adults.

"Based on our interviews these people were from high socio economic backgrounds and had developed thoughts about current Israeli politics. The question is why more journalists are not covering this story. All you have to do is walk the streets of Jerusalem and you will find dozens of people that harbor the same beliefs. As a resident of Jerusalem, I can say that the people represented in this video are not members of a fringe group or simply drunk college kids. These people reflect the sentiments shared by many people in this country and this city. These people and their families are the core of the opposition to meaningful peace between Israel and her neighbors. This is what Obama is up against."
 
I should add that I'm not sure that Obama is going to do much of anything. Dana has faith in that man while I, obviously, do not.
 
Generally I like your commentary but I wonder, and I ask this in a neutral non aggressive manner, how you developed such a strong interest in Israel?

As a gay person, when I look at the Middle East my reaction is basically... look away. It is death to the gays everywhere you go.

The only exception seems to be Israel. Although it is a very religious country and the conservative elements hate the gays (fagolas)the government has shown gays some respect and tolerance.

I think that when you say that Israel is a racist state etc you should keep in mind that racists and gay bashers almost always walk hand in hand. The two never seem to leave each others side.

In light of Israel's tolerance towards gays then, perhaps Israel has some shining qualities you have missed?
 
Yeah, Israel is good on gays.

America was good on a lot of issues, even as we were brutalizing slaves and murdering the native peoples. Whenever you talk about Israel, always -- ALWAYS -- flash on the parallel to the genocide committed against the American Indian.

Hitler was kind to his dog. Benito made the trains run on time (or so says the legend). Stalin created the Moscow waterworks, which was one hell of an engineering achievement. Even Pol Pot must have done something right, although I'm not sure what.
 
Subcultures and cults have a side effect unfortunate to their members and invisible to them. Because cultists spend all their time hanging around with people just like themselves, they have no idea of or concern for what they look like to outsiders.
 
Anon, you said. Your words apply not just to the Jewish kids in that video but to lots of other people who get caught up in an incestuous, narrow grouping. Even trekkies are guilty.

Although I've not yet heard any trekkies call for the president's murder.
 
Those people weren't cultists in an isolated environment. They were partying in a public place and showed no hesitation or reticence to say what they did.

Alcohol loosens inhibitions, but it doesn't put words in your mouth.
 
Joe:

I watched that clip late last night and I was freaking appalled at what I heard. I do not support Obama. I did not vote for Obama. In fact, can't stand the man nor can I listen to his voice without wanted to destroy the TV But.....

Never...NEVER would I call the man a ni**er! never would I gleefully rant about his murder! Never!

As you may already know ( I mentioned it here once ) that I am a "Native American." My people have been on the receiving end of this type of hatred. And still are!

For those that try to explain this away as just some "Drunk" kids blowing off steam is disgusting. THIS IS HOW THE FEEL! Nothing can change the fact that these people are RACIST!
 
Since when is the fact that Israel is good for Gays a license for this state to exist and expand upon Arab territory and the backs of it's people? There was a comment by one of these drunken thugs in this video that echoes what I have heard for years about the morality of the founding of the state of Israel in that this kids Grandmother had a number tatooed on her wrist and apparently this alone justified the continuing genocide of the Palestinians. Does this make any sense at all? Because his Jewish ancestors were slaughtered in Europe, it's okay that he and his contemporaries can steal, kill and exterminate the occupants of this land since it's founding in 1948? All I can see from this is a blatantly egregious example of bravado built upon the lie that the State of Israel has a right to exist that supercedes any other nations aspirations. It is disgusting and (HOPE)fully the slanted US policy regarding what one French Diplomat called "The shitty little country" will be changed quickly for the salvation of the world.
 
It's probably just coincidence, but some 10-12 hours ago, at the top of the "recommended diary list" at the Great Orange Cheato was something titled "The secret service needs your help. NOW!"

Apparently some guy commented to the teller in a bank that he intended harm to Obama. Reported in some newspapers with pic of the guy, make, year, color, plate no. of car, his name (Daniel James Murray), yada, yada. Actually four diaries on same topic in last few days, but this one got over 400 recommendations on a Friday morning.

Not worth the look or reading in my opinion, but should a researcher want to see the diaries,
http://tinyurl.com/research-threat

Of course no group or institution would work together to intentionally manipulate public perception or influence events and national policy. Nor can I figure out why running such a thought object past public view would serve any nefarious cause. It just smells bad and I tend to view Kossiteland as evil.
 
Well, I won't allow that sort of rationalization.

Did I say anywhere that I agreed with what they said? No.

Were they a bunch of drunk kids? Yes.

Is this indicative of Israelis? I dunno, the kids sounded American, so is it indicative of Jewish Americans in Israel? Again, I dunno.

When I said I've seen worse I was thinking of the Favreau/Clinton feel-up cut-out. But notice please, I said **seen**.

The sense of entitlement that the American Jewish community has when it comes to Israeli policy is on full raw display in the words of these young adults.

I don't know much about the American Jewish community so I can't agree or disagree with that statement. I guess Joseph Dana does.
 
You should be ashamed for making and posting such trash.
 
I disagree with the good man who made that video in his comment quoted above (or rather, I would like to add a perspective to it.)

“These people and their families are the core of the opposition to meaningful peace between Israel and her neighbors,” he says.

While they may well be at or near the core—emphasis on “families”—I see the power and influence exerted by a relatively minute group in the world, or U.S., or even Israeli population, as being the more dangerous heart of the matter.

Stupid or evil opinions are one thing, the degree to which they can somehow control our lives and national policy is another.

I'm not sure that Obama is going to do much of anything either—or rather I am concerned as to what he WILL do. Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to a large degree controls access to the president, and Rahm’s brother, Ezekiel Emanuel, is White House Director of Health Reform, and special health-care advisor to Obama's Office of Management and Budget.

Oy vey! We The People are left with the right to die.
 
Fredster:

Those people were drinking but they don't appear very drunk. They made those comments to a stranger with a microphone and cameraman standing behind them.

Would you be as forgiving if that was a bunch of College Republicans talking about abusing and killing "fags?"

What if they were Arab-Americans talking about Jews?
 
Im an old man now but back when I was 19 I spent a week in a Yeshiva in Jerusalem. Not particularly interesting other than I'm half West Indian, and half Jewish - in fact my father was an Israeli. Myself, I was born in the West Indies, and brought up in London.

The Rabbis that taught me for the week, were generally very nice, and very scholarly. I'm grateful to them for teaching me a lot in a very short space of time.

However the other kids were often offensive. They were very skeptical of my right to be there - which is fair enough. But they were also directly rude to me. Racist to be specific - btw, other kids checking for circumcision in the showers is pretty dumb - Muslims are circumcised too.

Indeed the overriding impression of my visits to Israel have been of its racism. Perhaps its cos I look like an arab. But I have come across plenty of anti-black sentiment in Israel and among Israelis outside of Israel.

What was also striking was the ignorance. My Israeli relatives are all very scholarly. However the American kids visiting the Yeshiva were generally woefully under briefed on the country, the history and the Torah.

My favorite was the kid who asked who "Father Abraham was again?".

Harry
 
The world isn't painted in blacks and whites-people who see it that way miss a lot...
 
Kinda reminds me of the Obots' treatment of Hillary.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
Dreadful behavior. I thought of Bill Maher as I watched. Seeing that Blumenthal did it, here's how good I think he is.

Max Blumenthal broke one of the greatest stories in US politics and got no attention for it. In 2005, he wrote about the Republican ticket for statewide office receiving funds form the Conservative Citizens Council. It wasn't a few grand either. It approached one million dollars, if memory serves (I couldn't find the link). Since Pat Robertson & Falwell picked the ticket that year, the story had the potential to expose the complete outrage that had become the Republican Party.

True investigative journalism with highly relevant results; ignored by the media grandees. They can't stand the truth.
 
I actually know a kid in the video (the one that uses the n word ... ) for better or for worse. I never heard him say anything like that and he always seemed to be a nice kid.
No, these people do not represent Israel or Jews...they are all Long Islanders and idiotic.
 
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