Wednesday, May 06, 2009

"The truth is useless..."

I'm not sure whether others share my interest in political myths. Even so, I plan to pursue the topic from time to time, because it is of unrecognized importance.

A few days ago, we examined (and debunked) a swine flu conspiracy theory. Today, I would like you to contemplate the following words, allegedly spoken by Jeb Bush, brother to our most unbeloved former president:
The truth is useless. You have to understand this right now. You can't deposit the truth in a bank. You can't buy groceries with the truth. You can't pay rent with the truth. The truth is a useless commodity that will hang around your neck like an albatross - all the way to the homeless shelter. And if you think that the million or so people in this country that are really interested in the truth about their government can support people who would tell them the truth, you got another think coming. Because the million or so people in this country that are truly interested in the truth don't have any money.
Many, many sites (most of them featuring the work of "progressives") attribute these words to the former Florida governor. See, for example, here and here, not to mention this page on the official Obama campaign site. The quote's appearance on TV.com appears to have given it credibility and increased visibility.

But did Jeb Bush actually say it?

This DU page from 2004 carries the quote, along with the following background information:
Well, according to George Bush's little brother and Florida governor Jeb Bush, some people just can't handle the truth. Jeb once told retired Naval Intelligence Officer Al Martin (cited in Bushwhacked, Sept. 2002, by Uri Dowbenko)...
A review of that book appears here. We learn that those words were allegedly said to Martin "in 1986, during a visit to Jeb’s Bush Codina Realty office in Miami".

And who is Uri Dowbenko? Well, he's an abstract artist. My favorite Dowbenko painting is amusing titled "The Origin of Specious Theories." Alas, Dowbenko appears to have a quite a weakenss for such theories.

Here, Dowbenko gives a very positive review to Jim Marrs ghastly Rule By Secrecy, a book that resurrects every debunked concoction ever to infest the libraries of paranoia. Marrs uncritically accepts all of the classic conspiracy hoaxes -- the "Silent Weapons" hoax, the Iron Mountain hoax, the Illuminati hoax, not to mention the fanciful inventions of Trevor Ravenscroft. Marrs even tries to sneak in the notorious "Protocols of Zion" hoax. Tellingly, Marrs draws from Eustace Mullens, an elegantly fey Nazi with a long history of bogus assertions, as demonstrated here (and in Morris Kaminski's classic book The Hoaxers).

If Uri could devour Marrs' book without smelling the gullibility, then I have serious reservations about the man's judgment. Alas, Dowbenko's own writings demonstrate that he has a positively Marr-tian affection for some of the dodgier "truths" to be found within the conspiracy underground.

And what of Al Martin, the intelligence officer who (allegedly) gave the quote to Uri? As you may know, he too has a fairly substantive internet presence. His writings are somewhat conspiracy-oriented, although, unlike Dowbenko, he keeps his feet planted on planet Earth, or close to it. I have yet to see him traffic in the kind of fraudulence that Marrs finds irresistable. (On the other hand, I'm not as familiar with his work as some of you might be.)

Martin does claim to have known Jeb back in the 1980s...
All through the 1980s, when Jeb Bush ran the Bush Realty out of Miami at 1390 Brickell Ave. (before he ran Bush Codina Realty in 1992-1993), he represented himself to clients, banks, insurance companies and mortgage brokers as a licensed realtor. In fact Jeb Bush is not a licensed realtor in the State of Florida nor has he ever been.

His application for a realtor's license in the State of Florida was repeatedly rejected due to "outstanding criminal investigations of his business activities conducted by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement."
This assertion is important -- if it is true. I suspect it is.

But we still don't have our quote. A commenter on Snopes claims to have seen the same text attributed to Oliver North. My own googlings have uncovered no web pages in which North is said to have said those words.

So. Did Jeb say it or not? Here's the argument for "not":

1. We have no direct testimony from Al Martin on this score -- just an indirect ascription to Martin by Uri Dowbenko. And to be frank, I don't trust Dowbenko.

2. The quote is long -- too long to commit to memory. Are we to believe that Al Martin secretly recorded his conversation with Jeb?

3. The quote seems rather too literary. I cannot easily believe that any member of the Bush clan speaks off-the-cuff with such erudition.

Unless Martin comes forward and confirms the quote -- and also provides some explanation for objection #2 -- I will classify it under the heading False Quotation Syndrome. (My favorite FQS example is this speech, attributed to Lincoln. It will continue to be attributed to Lincoln long after you and I are dead.)

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bob Somerby has dedicated a good part of his life to debunking false quotes - from left and right.

Like myths, conspiracy theories and some lies they become zombies, coming back from the dead again and again.

Anonymous said...

First we have to define what truth is. Imo, truth is never known because there are infinite pieces to it and therefore it's impossible to know.
“An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.” -- Ghandi
What we call truth is not truth. A cup filled with water from the ocean, is not the ocean.
My understanding of truth, is that truth is the happening, the "Is". If I say: "I'm eating", the statement is a very small part of the truth.
Mao said that a lie repeated becomes truth, a contradiction to the statement from Ghandi. I think Mao is wrong. The Sun did not revolve around the Earth, even if the Pope and generations believed the error.
I've heard people say that there are "many truths". No such thing. There are many errors, but only one truth.

Anonymous said...

"What is truth?" - Pontius Pilate

Anonymous said...

I read that quote some years back, and not from any of the sources you've cited that currently make the claim. If I recall correctly, I read it on a website that featured contributions from Martin on a several times a week basis, or possibly in the one book of his I bought (current whereabouts unknown, unfortunately).

Now, even THAT doesn't make it true, except as a true quote of Martin's. I believe it is entirely true that Martin has claimed this is a quote or near-quote from JEB (John Ellis Bush) back in the roaring '80s.

Whereas Martin may or may not verge way off into the hinterlands of conspiracy land, his primary message is one of complete conspiracy anyway. He claims that he was attached to the CIA from ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), and the work he did for them was specializing in financial crimes, to defraud investors to make money for the covert ops side of the Agency.

XI

Joseph Cannon said...

XI, I'm grateful for this info.

I should make clear that I don't know whether Al Martin's claims are true. I've nothing against the guy. I just don't know enough to render an opinion.

But as near as I can tell, he restricts himself to CIA stuff. I think that spook stuff is far easier to digest than all of that Freemasons-run-the-world crap you get from most conspiracists.

Peter of Lone Tree said...

THIS Al Martin?

Anonymous said...

I second Xi but unlike him/her have a copy of Martin's book "The Conspirators" to hand. The trouble is it's around 360 pages long and is unindexed, so my efforts will be a bit hit-or-miss.

The book is poorly written but contains an eye-popping amount of detail that, even if partly true, says much about the state of the country. The Bush family even gets a few chapters of the book to itself, so it would have come as no surprise to readers of the book that "George Jr." presided over the eceonomic shenanigans we now see emerging from the woodwork. Similarities between now and the Savings and Loan fraud are probably no coincidence.

Mike Rogers

Anonymous said...

I've found what could well be the source of the quote -- and the words are actually those of Al Martin:

The truth is not profitable. You cannot eat it. You can't live on it. You can't deposit the truth in the bank.Page 200 of The Conspirators, Second Edition, 2002.

What Martin reports Jeb Bush as actually saying is that "... there are no heroes, and there are no tooth fairies." The thing about not being able to eat the truth, etc, is Martin's interpretation of Jeb Bush's words.

Incidentally, if you haven't read "The Conspirators", I heartily suggest you do so. In spite of its lamentable lack of structure and Al Martin's awkward style of writing, it might well give you some further insight into the corruption that infects the US body politic.

Mike Rogers

Caro said...

Al Martin once claimed that Poppy Bush said his job was to promote "the continuous consolidation of money and power into higher, tighter and righter hands." I would so love to use that quote, because it sounds so much like the Bushies, but I've never been able to verify it.

I have a rewrite for the "truth" statement:

Hope is useless. You have to understand this right now. You can't deposit hope in a bank. You can't buy groceries with hope. You can't pay rent with hope. Hope is a useless commodity that will hang around your neck like an albatross - all the way to the homeless shelter. But the leaders have nothing to fear from the hundreds of millions of people in this country that are devoted to hope, because those millions will never bother to get up off their asses and force their government to do what's right for the greatest number of us.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

Anonymous said...

Dowbenko is either on drugs or suffers from mental illness. His rambling and nutty monologues he bludgeons complete strangers with is evidence of this. I met the guy one time and asked him to please steer clear of me in the future. I don't think he is capable for discerning truth from his own imagination.