Wednesday, October 22, 2008

ACORN

I did not want to admit it, but facts are facts: ACORN has become a criminal organization. The following video comes from CNN, which many consider biased in favor of Obama:



Why did the Obama campaign give $836,000 to ACORN using fraudulent claims that the organization was providing "sound system" services? How can anyone possibly justify that behavior as being on the up-and-up?

On the so-called "Fight the Smears" section of Obama's web site the following claims were made:
The Obama Campaign claims that Barack was never an ACORN trainer and that he was not associated with ACORN in 1992:

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992
Just how factual are these "facts"?

"Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity." That's a lie; it is well-known that Obama represented ACORN in a legal case. What is less well-known is this:
"Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5,000 of them).

Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for State Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends."
So: ACORN was indeed part of Project VOTE. Strike down Fact 3. Obama represented ACORN as a lawyer and led training sessions. Strike down Fact 2. Those training sessions also count as a strike against Fact 1.

I'm particularly bothered by Brad Friedman's continuing defense of ACORN. The offenses outlined in CNN's investigation speak to a systemic attempt to game the election. I once accepted the excuse that individual ACORN volunteers, motivated by financial gain, sent in improper registrations. But that explanation no longer works.

Brad asks: "Perhaps the ACORN 'Voter Fraud' is Hiding with the WMD?..."

No, Brad -- ACORN's criminality is as obvious as your partisanship. (Note that the oft-cited election fraud expert refuses to addresses any of the problems outlined in CNN's investigation.) And please spare us your oft-heard declaration that membership in the Green party places you above the Democratic-Republican fray. Let's deal in facts, Brad: You make money from your site, and your readers are mostly progs. If you stop telling them what they want to hear, you'll no longer be given exposure in The Guardian or on Air America. You won't be asked to fill in for the vile Randi Rhodes. Your progressive readers will desert you. You will no longer be able to make a career of your cause. You'll have to start filling out employment applications at the many fast food restaurants around Hollywood. That's why you never expressed on your site the disgust you felt when the Kossacks engaged in hyperbolic bashing of Hillary Clinton.

12 comments:

Joseph Cannon said...

A reader and fellow blogger who will nevermore be allowed to comment here again has blithely suggested FactCheck has debunked the allegations against ACORN.

Bullshit.

This is, of course, the same FactCheck that lied about Bill Ayers. Here is what they say about ACORN:

"Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes."

At one time, I bought this crap. But -- cah-MON. Look at the CNN video. Can any sane person NOT see systemic fraud in ACORN's behavior?

Anonymous said...

Documenting the Atrocities. Thank you Joseph.

Anonymous said...

I have long wondered about the "100% hand-count" crowd.

Joeseph, you live in L.A. County, and are familiar with 55 race ballots.

I've long thought that the 100% HCPB folks only sought election chaos.

Recently I have been following and deeply studying ACORN and their goals. I read their 'manifesto' of 1990.

ACORN seems to seek electon chaos by overwhelming election offices with paper bullshit.

And then there's Brad....and Brett....

Anonymous said...

Joseph~

It has irritated me now end that you have continued to fly the banner of VR on your site.

VR CREATED, PRODUCED and HOSTED a vile and obscene anti-Hillary ad, made by VR co-founder and unrepentant American serial bomber, Brett Kimberlin.

I'm stumped.

Anonymous said...

It was shown by a brazillion news articles from 2004 & 2006 that election officials across the country found a shortage of an average of 25% needed pollworkers.

HCPB requires roughly 4 times as many workers. The 'HCPB' folk INSISTED that there were plenty of people ready, willing & able to hand count ballots. But NEVER was there any backup to this assertion.

I think the theoretical unnamed willing handcounters are ACORN workers.

Do you want our ballots counted by ACORN?

I opposed DREs (prefering optiscan & legitimate, reliable audits), but I sure as hell don't want ACORN 'volunteers' counting my ballot.

Anonymous said...

You dare to question ACORN?

HERESY!

But we already knew you were a racist and probably a GOP ratf*cker because you criticized Teh Precious.

/snark

Anonymous said...

I also think it's a lie that Obama "took the case". I could be wrong, but as I recall, he assisted in that case. I"m not sure how we go about checking that, but I'm pretty confident he was not the lead attorney.

Anonymous said...

Fraudulent registrations don't actually lead to much fraudulent voting because the voter id card gets kicked back by the post office and removed from the rolls, so the question becomes - what is the goal here?

I'm wondering if driving up massive voter registration numbers to artificially inflate the perception that huge new voters have turned out to support Obama is being used to cover actual vote fraud.

This is all very, very weird and I say this as someone who has run a lot of voter reg projects, and has dealt innumerable times with workers filling out fraudulent paperwork.

Usually when you have someone on the roll from an abandoned address, it's an old registration that was never removed. It'd odd having people fill out new registrations for abandoned buildings because that registration won't stay on the rolls. But maybe that doesn't matter. maybe what matters is Obama being able to say that X number of new voters were registered so that when votes are stolen, the campaign has a way to justify it.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Anonymous said...

The Velvet Revolution created, produced and hosted anti-Hillary Clinton ad may be found on Velvet Revolution's site dated 1/23/2008.

The lyrics are as follows (italicized text is the visual text shown in the video they produced):
____________________________

Hillary, ya know yer a really sweet girl
(Hillary votes with Bush to attack Iraq)
and you always like to show your stuff.

Hillary, you know you're a really neat girl
(Hillary joins Lieberman in culture war)
(Hillary votes to bomb Iran)

but you never seem to have enough
(Hillary will lose in November)
(Hillary supports Blackwater)


I'd love to tell ya that ya make me hot
(Hillary: Lobbyists' Dream Candidate)
I'd love a taste of what you've got
(Hillary will stay the course)
(Hillary's beltway politics)
(Hillary sides with corporations)
(Hillary's Triangulation Strangulation)
(Hillary, Panderer in Cheif)


Hillary, I know you'd never break your vow.

But I can dream of you anyhow.

I can dream of you anyhow.

____________________

Joseph~ When will you stop flying the banner of the sexist anti-Hillary unrepentant serial bomber co-founded VR?

Anonymous said...

Obama is listed as an attorney for ACORN vs. Edgar:

Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn), Et Al., Plaintiffs-Appellees, v. James R. Edgar, in His Official Capacity as Governor of the State of Illinois, Et Al., Defendants-Appellants., 56 F.3d 791 (7th Cir. 1995)

Federal Circuits, 7th Cir. (June 05, 1995)

Docket number: 95-1800

Judson H. Miner, Jeffrey Cummings, Barack H. Obama, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, Chicago, IL, for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), et al.


http://vlex.com/vid/search/37691757?query[ct_resultados]=0&query[frase]=&query[lc_query]=&sort=score

This is when he worked for the law firm where Allison Davis was a partner. Davis then apparently found that it was more lucrative to develop and manage low-income housing in Chicago.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/

(I'm having a hell of a time posting - Comcast has been terrible since this weekend.)

old dem

BradF said...

You suggest I haven't addressed the concerns in the CNN report? Perhaps you haven't actually read my reports?

To make it easy for you, here's the short versions, in reply to what's in that particular (old, and entirely debunked CNN report, and even retracted, in part, in several ensuing Drew Griffin reports):

+ The fraudulent registration forms reported by Hoagland to CNN were given to her months ago, marked as "problematic" or "incomplete". She knows that. Apparently didn't bother to tell CNN that (who has since marginally improved their reporting on this, except for on Dobbs.)

+ ACORN must, by law, turn in all registration forms by law. As they did. Flagged as problematic.

+ Why don't you ask questions to either me, or the ACORN communications director (communications@acorn.org) before you make unsubstantiated, and incorrect allegations on your blog?

+ ACORN spoke to the "Jimmy John's" registration form (which they had turned in, flagged as fraudulent, months ago) when the first ridiculous charges first came out (pay no attention to the fact that these suddenly came out in NV, IN, OH, MO, etc. all at the same time even though, in states like MO, ACORN hadn't done any registration work since August.)

+ Neither aware, nor interested in dKos' attacks on Hillary or anybody else. I didn't support any of the primary candidates, nor any of the current Prez candidates. I'm supporting the voters this year. Sorry if you have a problem with that. Haven't been paying particularly close attention to any of the politics bullshit here.

+ You may want to take some time to read the reports I've written on all of this, available via http://www.bradblog.com/ACORN. If you have any questions, concerns, criticisms, as always, I'm happy to hear them, and willing to give you comment on them. That you didn't even bother, and posted inaccurate information is a shame.

+ As to the nonsense of "making money" from progressives. I wonder how they must feel that we endorsed a Republican the other day over an incumbent Dem? (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6530), or that I've helped and lauded conservatives and Republicans in many cases in the past when they've stood up for the voters (including in our top story today: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6547) and have been fairly merciless in my criticism of Obama and the DNC for the last six months or so

Not sure where you've gone off the deep end, JC, and where the anger comes from, but I continue to be clueless as to why it's directed to me when there are so many *actual* bad guys out there.

Best,
Brad

BradF said...

Regarding some of the comments above, I am unaware of any "vile sexist Hillary" video created by VR.

And for those of them who seem to be misinformed or confused, Obama represented ACORN, alongside the DoJ in the 90's to sue Illinois to force them to implement the federal "Motor Voter Act."

You are welcome to like that or hate that, I don't care. But just wanted to give you the actual facts on it, since there seems to be some confusion above.

Best,
Brad