Sunday, June 15, 2008

Gaming the caucuses (Update)

Now that Obama has revealed his true thuggishness with his instantly-infamous "bring a gun to a knife fight" remark, let's take a look back on how he "won."

The following video comes to us by way of a site called Lady Boomer. This presentation documents the travails, last April, of a Clinton delegate in Texas whom the Obama-ites "accidentally" marked as one of their own -- repeatedly.

And she's not the only one -- in fact, this "mistake" was standard practice. The object of the trick was pretty obvious. The Obots hoped to confuse the more elderly delegates. You'll have to listen carefully to the recorded telephone call -- and if, at first, matters seem confusing, then just skip to the end, where our heroine lays out the sitch in no uncertain terms.


UPDATE: A correspondent has asked if this video might not be a clever piece of deception by a Texas Republican. The give-away, he says, is the reference to the "Democrat" party, which is how Republicans like to refer to the party. ("Democratic" tests better than "Democrat" in focus groups.)

Hm. Would a faker have chosen such an un-obvious course of action? Would a faker have have forced listeners to use headphones to hear the guy on the telephone? Any hoaxer smart enough to manage such verisimilitude also would have been smart enough to use "Democratic"...

16 comments:

Citizen K said...

I keep reading about caucus "irregularities." I can't remember anything being done about such things in a presidential race. Will anything be done?

Joseph Cannon said...

Generals always prepare for the previous war. Election integrity advocates were so focused on getting rid of the compu-vote machines that they didn't see other problems.

Something will be done. Not this year.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

This was a fix from the start. Removing Hillary's name from the convention ballots is proof of that.

BTW, I realize this is a political blog, but why no mention of the disaster in Cedar Rapids? Remember when Katrina happened? Weren't the "prog-blogs" all crazed about that? Why no crazy crazy about Cedar Rapids?? The levees broke! Isn't this George Bush's fault?

Why is no one going bonkers over Cedar Rapids? Could it be that working class whites don't matter as much as underclass African Americans? Where is Kanye West when you need him?

Anonymous said...

Obama is becoming such an embarrassment to the Party. I cringe when I think of how much worse it's going to look when the rest of the truth is exposed. I hope the good people who've endorsed him have the sense to start backing slowly away from the vehicle soon. Say, now.

Anonymous said...

sorry this is OT: But, can you really say that Cedar Rapids and New Orleans are the same???

Did the wealthy people of Cedar Rapids all drive out of town before the floods started, like in NOLA when Katrina was still days away from landfall? Is 1M Metro population the same as 200K? Sure there were Levee failures in each case (53 Levee breaches in NOLA), but it's hardly the same. One was called the most unique city in America, the birthplace of Jazz, the other home to Ashton Kutcher star of Punked.

$81Bn = $780M??? by that standard it's 1/10th the scale

The saddest part of the United States AFAIK is this poor-me anti-affirmative action white smugness which always seems to notice the inequalities that the white race must endure. When I used to patronize right wing mom blogs (to harass them, not sexually, just ideologically) i would see this all the time "Slavery was hundreds of years ago... can't they just forget it??" I think sadly it is because of these attitudes that the blowback happens. It is precisely because of these sniveling gripes and divisions, that a mess like Obamania can sweep across the guilt-ridden campuses.

THE COLLECTION WELLS AREN'T CONTAMINATED FOR FUCKS SAKE. THERES DRINKING WATER FOR ALL CEDARPEDIANS. THOSE WHO REMAIN ARE URGED TO CUT BACK ON SHOWERING(!) AND FLUSHING TO SAVE THE LAST OF THEIR DRINKING WATER. Yeeeeeah, I'd say thats just about equal to having to stay on my roof for A WEEK waiting for the national guard and watching bodies float by...

And heck, where are all the baby killers and rapists??? Or does that only "happen" in black superdomes?

Anonymous said...

1- How many delegates are we talking about here ? What is the discrepancy between the % of delegates for Obama gain through voting and the % of delegates won in caucuses in Texas ?

2- Were these "irregularities" only anecdotal isolated events (like Lady Boomer) or are we talking about systematic foul play in all caucuses (and what proof do you have) ?

3- I wonder who wants to keep this arcane way of selecting delegates ? What would it take to get ride of it ?

Clayton said...

yeah, jazz is equal or better to all the food that Iowa won't be able to grow this year. Have fun eating that coletrane album.

No the two tragedies are not the same, but they are both tragedies you callous twat! I doubt whitey leblanc has ever lived in the bayou, let alone been in the same parish as new orleans. Get your white liberal guilt off your chest and as yourself, would it suck to live in either location during either of these two events?

Anonymous said...

"$81 Bn = $780 M??? by that standard it's 1/10th the scale"


um, I'm no mathematician, but by that standard it's more like 1/100th of the scale

...Anyway what does it matter compared to the "poisoning influence of White Europeans?" C'mon Joe, give us some a 'bongo muse!!

Anonymous said...

"One was called the most unique city in America, the birthplace of Jazz, the other home to Ashton Kutcher star of Punked."

Thanks for making that brutally clear.

Anonymous said...

The caucus process inherently discriminates against the average Democratic voter (as the differing results in Texas' Democratic primary vs. its caucus results demonstrates).

They are 'insider' events, that only the most activist party members find time to participate in (hours long meetings on workday nights).

While I admit to no theory on how to rid the Democratic Party of such processes, it seems they ARE worth trying to eliminate, quite apart from abuses of the process. The process itself, even done without gaming or abuse, is anti-democratic (little 'd'), while posing as the ultimate in democratic processes.

...sofla

Anonymous said...

first off Clayton, it was a response to someone else (J), who was being not only callous but looking at it throught some 'poor-me' race issued lense... not what any one of us thought or felt about the floods, just his white agenda. it was someone (J) equating the two tragedies because of the levies (making fun of katrina perhaps, or at least those who blamed Bush) at any rate, he was hardly being sympathetic. My response was to that. And they all suck, yes, as does the fact that 30,000 babies starve on our planet every day, as does what happened in China last week, and somewhere else the week before, you callous fuck. And its not food they grow anyway, it's cattle feed, bioplastics and biofuels. that one flood isn't whats leading to a global food crisis.

2nd, Twat?? can i call you a dick ? or an asshole? you might as well use the "C" word-- Maybe in lieu of whats been happening and the flagrant sexism in america, you can cut out the mysogenistic talk?

I'll take my liberakl white guilt over you volatile sexist myopia anyday... and people saying "look at us. no one comments on us, because we're white!" ought to shut the fuck up!

Clayton said...

I personally like MN's caucus style. Vote for your elected official via Ballot, and then if you so choose to stick around, vote on issues for your wards delegates to address at the state convention. But not just vote, short debates. I found it to be very democratic, more so than just walking into a booth and filling in a ballot.

Anonymous said...

"2nd, Twat?? can i call you a dick ? or an asshole? you might as well use the 'C' word--"

Anyone using the "c" word around here to describe anyone other than Joe Lieberman is going to get good and banned.

Anonymous said...

Hey Joe,

In regards to your update with the thought that the video is a "clever deception" by a Republican: If you look at the other videos that the woman has posted on her YouTube page, she was also documenting a rule-breaking caucus that was taking place in Texas. In those videos, you can hear her and others arguing with the people "in charge" of the caucus about what they were doing that was breaking the rules. It seems pretty on the up and up to me.

Kyre

Joseph Cannon said...
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Joseph Cannon said...

Well, I can't ban myself.

First, let's be clear: No-one here will be allowed to call anyone else (of either sex) a "cunt."

That said, I never did understand why people consider that word more loathsome than competing terms for "vagina."

"Cunt" almost certainly derives from the latin "cunnus," which in turn almost certainly derives from the Sanskrit "Kunthi," which was the name of an ancient Indian nature/mother goddess. "Kundry" in the Parsifal legend is obviously a variant of Sophia, the personification of Wisdom. Perhaps this helps to explain why our word "cunning" comes from the same root.

As you can see, this word has a very honorable etymological history. It emphasizes the inherent divinity of woman. I simply cannot understand why the term is now seen as being low-class.

By comparison, "twat" is a mystery. Nobody knows where that word comes from. I've always felt that it has a much uglier resonance. It's the sound a flyswatter makes.

"Pussy" sounds childish. Moreover, it conjures up images of alleycats howling in the night. It connotes the bestial, not the divine. There is no hint of the goddess in that term.

So for me, "cunt" is the term of choice -- but only if reserved for lovers, and only in the most intimate of moments. It is not to be used during general discourse -- certainly not as an insult.