Tuesday, February 06, 2007

Iran: Victory will defeat us

Last night, I caught much of a History Channel program promoting war with Iran -- an exercise in propaganda so blatant as to make Goebbels blush. The whiff of war is in the air.

Most Americans have been led to believe that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad demands the destruction of Israel; even if he had not been misquoted, he could never achieve such a goal without bringing an end to his own nation's long history. Bush has told the world that Iran is arming the Iraqi insurgency -- an inane and obvious lie, reminiscent of the falsehoods told to justify the Iraqi invasion. Why would Shi'ite Iran arm the Sunnis? In fact, good evidence suggests that aid to Iraq's Sunnis is coming from Saudi Arabia -- which really wants no part in the conflict, but which is being forced to act in a more high-profile fashion. Indeed, Iraq may soon turn into a Saudi/Iranian proxy war.

Today, we learn that Hillary Clinton backs military action:
“U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal: We cannot, we should not, we must not permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. In dealing with this threat as I have said for a very long time, no option can be taken off the table.”
By what right would we attack a nation that has never gone to war with us or with its neighbors?

The History Channel neglected to mention a key fact that everyone else knows: Any aerial attack on Iran will almost certainly go nuclear, especially if Iran's fearsome Sunburn missiles destroy one of our warships. How can we justify a nuclear first strike to prevent the spread of nuclear weaponry?

Iran did not attack us on 9/11. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, the hijackers were Saudi, much of the money was Saudi. Al Qaeda was largely a creation of Pakistani intelligence, and Pakistan is the current home of the movement. Yet America did nothing to discourage Pakistan from developing nuclear weaponry. The Pakistani bomb was created with Saudi financing and encouragement. Some say we covertly aided that development.

Yet Bush has decreed that Pakistan may do that which Iran may not. Thus, we are being prepared for a third World War -- one which will throw the entire region into chaos.

Why? Scott Ritter gives one origin theory in his book Target Iran:
"the conflict currently underway between the United States and Iran is, first and foremost, a conflict born in Israel. It is based upon an Israeli contention that Iran poses a threat to Israel, and defined by Israeli assertions that Iran possesses a nuclear weapons program. None of this has been shown to be true, and indeed much of the allegations made by Israel against Iran have been clearly demonstrated as being false."
(To read the rest, click "Permalink" below)

Bush speaks of "democracy" as the goal. But Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, and neither is Pakistan. Neither is Jordan nor any of the Islamic nations with which we have good relations.

Ahmadinejad, by contrast, is an elected leader. And it is hard to argue with the sentiments he expressed to the United Nations:
“No one has superiority over others. No individual or states can arrogate to themselves special privileges, nor can they disregard the rights of others and, through influence and pressure, position themselves as the `international community.’ Citizens of Asia, Africa, Europe and America are all equal. Over six billion inhabitants of the earth are all equal and worthy of respect.”
Yet America's position derives from the theory of American exceptionalism: We may have nukes; they may not. We may strike first; they may not even strike back. As WIlliam Pfaff puts it in his recent NYRB piece:
The Bush administration defends its pursuit of this unlikely goal by means of internationally illegal, unilateralist, and preemptive attacks on other countries, accompanied by arbitrary imprisonments and the practice of torture, and by making the claim that the United States possesses an exceptional status among nations that confers upon it special international responsibilities, and exceptional privileges in meeting those responsibilities.

This is where the problem lies. Other American leaders before George Bush have made the same claim in matters of less moment. It is something like a national heresy to suggest that the United States does not have a unique moral status and role to play in the history of nations, and therefore in the affairs of the contemporary world. In fact it does not.
And:
Even Francis Fukuyama, a recovering neoconservative, acknowledges in a recent book that American economic and political policies today rest on an unearned claim to privilege, the American "belief in American exceptionalism that most non-Americans simply find not credible." Nor, he adds, is the claim tenable, since "it presupposes an extremely high level of competence" which the country does not demonstrate.
How will the world react? At first, with harsh words -- which will be no reaction at all. But the counter-attack against the United States will be slow and ongoing, and it will take place on innumerable fronts.

America cannot long endure in a world that considers us despicable. We do not possess the "extremely high level of competence" Fukuyama speaks of. Our intellectual and economic infrastructure is crumbling. After we bring ruin to Iran, even countries and peoples we now consider our friends will long to see us humbled. An unprovoked attack will birth new terror strikes that make 9/11 seem tame, and in their wake, we will command no sympathy. Do you want to see a world in which the fall of the Golden Gate or the Sears Tower elicits cheers in Berlin, London, Melbourne, Moscow and Peking? Such a world is closer than you think.

Many Europeans already -- and with good reason -- considers the United States a land of superstitious, arrogant louts. What will they think after we bring death to innocent millions? Why should the rest of the world care about our dollars, our goods (those few goods we continue to make), or our ill-educated work force? We cannot survive many more disruptions to our energy supply. We cannot survive disinvestment in our fragile economy. The Bush family has a private empire in Paraguay; the rest of us have no escape.

Even if we prevail in the coming war with Iran, victory will defeat us.

11 comments:

sunny said...

Great piece Joe, but you forgot to mention Israeli exceptionalism as expressed by racists Likudniks and AIPAC hostages. Israel is a "democracy" that does not even have a constitution, where racists policies are written into law, and the holocaust of Palestinians is every day denied in the US. (However rigorously debated in Israel) If this country is not allowed, and soon, to publicly and honestly debate the fact that Israels interests are the only ones being considered in any possible war on Iran, we'll all be paying the price.

And yes, the Oil Oligarchy seems to be against an Iranian strike, re Baker and ISG, so the only other possible explanation for a strike on Iran is the puny manhood of Bush and his fellow neocon nancy boys.

Anonymous said...

You alluded to what the most devastating response will be. It will take very little effort - just some courage and a little resolve to persevere for the rest of the world to bring the US economy to its knees. They won't have to bring down our buildings to get even. The US as a real third world country is much closer than most can imagine. The rest of the "civilized" world seems to understand that war is obsolete. More cerebral economic attacks can bring equal devastation to the fabric of a nation without the bloodshed.

Anonymous said...

"It will take very little effort - just some courage and a little resolve to persevere for the rest of the world to bring the US economy to its knees. "

Isnt this the point of the War and any potential attack on Iran? Isnt Cheney's whole calculus - the "project for a new american century" stuff - all about forcibly defending America's interests? The danger that Cheney sees to the US is real. America is dependant on oil. The exurbs will not function without gasoline. I disagree with Cheney's policies because they are BOTH counter-productive and immoral. As Joe says, attacking Iran will do nothing to further Americas interests - quite the opposite. The neo-cons have overestimated America's power to influence the world by force. And they are playing fast and lose with the militaries potential vulnerabilities.

In this context Israel is really just a base of operations in one sense. So why is it that when one listens to neocon arguments it seems to be an axiom of policy. The arguments they forward appear to assume a coincidence of interests that never has to be justified.

Anonymous said...

The other evening I caught a little of the special effects movie, "Independence Day." (20 C Fox 1996) I had not seen it since before 9/11. When I saw the scene where the White House was destroyed so dramatically by the aliens, so help me, I experienced an involuntary rush of joy not unlike when finally the bad guys get their cumuppance. I was immediately horrified by my reaction, so different from when I had first seen the movie.
What a terrible metamorphosis I have undergone since 9/11!

Bob Boldt

Anonymous said...

Israeli interests aren't (primarily) driving this apparent hunger to attack Iran.

The same megalomania, abetted by historical fantasies, and infatuation with "legacy", which drove the Iraq invasion, seems to be at the bottom of the current push. These people certainly must know that Iran poses no danger to Israel -- even forgetting that the Iranian "nucular" program has been greatly exaggerated.

The Clintons were always far more "conservative" and accommodating to power (i.e., right-wing) than was commonly acknowledged, so perhaps Hillary's position shouldn't be all that surprising. And it's certainly true that her pandering to Israel knows no limits, which is reason enough for her not to be President.

But, at this point, Israel is just a pretext.

OldAtlantic said...

We could do a ground invasion from Iraq and lose 200 killed in the ground combat phase in Iraq. But that would be unequal. We should wait for them to have nukes so we lose as many. This is the moral thing to do. To defeat them now while we lose 200 killed would only be to act from the American point of view.

That is the left's position, they want America defeated. That is why they want Muslim immigration to continue, to defeat us here not just there.

Anonymous said...

sofla said...

Must disagree with anon 5:47 above.

OF COURSE, the Israeli reason predominates among other reasons for attacking Iran.

This is obvious, because both the anti-Bush/anti-Iraq War Democrats favor and advocate an even harsher response to Iran than Bush has been willing to publicly advocate. Why would that be? Surely not to save the Bush legacy, or in some delusional state of mind that broadening the regional wars there will pull the Iraqi chestnuts out of the fire.

No, the reason the likes of a Hillary or a Chuck Schumer are so hawkish on Iran is entirely their fealty to Israeli-driven positions.

We have no way out of this pinscher movement, being squeezed into this near-suicidal situation by both parties (about equally controlled by Zionist interests, I'm afraid to say), except for a broad awakening of the American people to the pernicious effects of having the US national foreign policy hostage to the goals and aims of a tiny country the size of Connecticut.

Again, unfortunately, this will likely be accompanied by a resurgence of anti-Semitic themes not politely voiced in society for many decades now.

It needn't be, but it is hard to see how it wouldn't be, unless the far more peace-minded majority of American Jewry make a decided break with their hawkish and militant top tiers. Oh, and turn back control of the news media conglomerates.

Since these things, which would be preferable alternatives, aren't likely to take place, our options are probably a horrible blood bath for our interests overseas, or a bad wave of repression and anti-Semitism domestically.

Anonymous said...

Hillary and Chuck don't make American foreign policy. I don't know that either one advocates a preventive war against Iran, but even assuming they do, their position is not driving the Bush Administration.

Do you really believe that, without Israel, Dubya wouldn't be the belligerent, self-deceived fool that he is, no longer determined to remake history in the Middle-East and control the flow of oil?

The Jewish lobby has been highly effective at stifling public debate in this country, but its influence on American foreign policy is greatly exaggerated. Perceived American interests always trump those of Israel.

Anonymous said...

sofla said...

No, Democrats in general do not drive foreign policy for the Bush administration. Who does?

According to many, including an accusatory prosecuting attorney role played by Tim Russert on Meet the Press, it is the neo-con faction, who have been credibly accused of conducting a coup d'etat of US foreign policy in order to ram through the Iraq war, along with the other short and medium term goals for the Middle East that many of these neo-cons first put forward as the 'clean break' policy they advocated to Binjamin Netanyahu, candidate for Israel's top elective office.

Thomas Friedmann wrote that the Iraq war wouldn't have happened at all except for about a dozen men within a few blocks of where he was writing (in DC), meaning these same neo-cons.

It isn't clear what Bush would have done on his own, because prior to running for the presidency, he got brainwashing briefings for months by.... yes, the neo-cons.

However, it is abundantly clear that the arrogance and belligerancy we obviously see in Bush is not alone in his government, nor necessarily even the most important instance of that, compared to his coven of neo-cons and their sycophantic supporters in the media. Those parties' thinking and behavior stems from their Zionist/Likudnik sympathies.

And there is no doubt now, amid plentiful evidence, that Israel herself provided much credibility and support for the intel Bush used falsely to go to war, even though their own Mossad wouldn't go along because of professional scruples (perhaps), and that even over there, they had to create their own versions of the rump intel groups we used over here, as in the Office of Special Plans group Joe mentions in his post today (Wednesday).

On the record, we have ample statements of support, and even repeated demands for action, from Israel and Zionists to the United States, along with warnings to their lobbyists here, not to get too far in front of this and become 'scapegoated' (i.e., accurately blamed for their roles).

Frankly, the notion that our policies in the Middle East reflect our own national priorities and interests and not those of Israel, is the failed Noam Chomsky position as to why the noted historians' recent paper enumerating any number of US actions on behalf of Israel that were not in our own national interests must be mistaken.

Even Philip Zelikow, a fellow neo-con insider, close friend, former NSC colleague, and co-author of two books with Condaleeza Rice, part of the NSC transition team for Bush 43 in 2001, of counsel to the NSC now (iirc), and Bush's handpicked executive director of the 9/11 Commission, stated as much. In a talk, he asked, why did the US attack Iraq, when he represented no threat to us whatsoever? He answered that it is politically unpopular to provide the true answer, but that the answer was, that we acted in the interest of Israel's security.

Anonymous said...

I think you're deriving causation from what amounts to a convergence of interests.

The neo-cons might well have been deluded enough to think they were providing Israel security by invading Iraq, but ultimately this was the Rumsfeld-Cheney-Bush war. All 3 of them clearly wanted it, from day one.

The fact that this cabal received support and collusion from the neo-cons doesn't prove much. The venture would have happened with or without them. Remember Richard Clarke, reporting that Rumsfeld wanted to bomb Iraq after 9/11, because there weren't any good targets in Afghanistan?

Anonymous said...

sofla said...

You are right that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were for the war in Iraq from day one they were in office, and probably for a set of reasons not entirely identical to the Zionists'.

However, they DID populate their entire Pentagon and State Department and other national security concerns with these Zionists, with whom they had collaborated just before they achieved national office, over at the Project for a New American Century (PNAC). I think all those guys were signators and joiners at that project (with Jeb involved rather than George W, but...).

My claim is that, whatever the wishes of that top troika of W, Cheney and Rumsfeld, there were preconditions for that ambition to be realized. (Even though former Sec. Treasury Paul O'Neill said Bush tasked the NSC at its very first meeting to provide him a way to go to war with Iraq as he already intended, notice how long it took to get to war there, even after 9/11).

And those preconditions included getting slavish propagandistic stenography rather than investigative reporting out of the mainstream and elite media (Judith Miller at the NY Times, eg), getting close to half of the Democratic senators to go along, and using their inside players to invent from whole cloth 'sources' that said what they wanted them to say without any vetting from the establishment intel agencies while beating back and intimidating recalcitrant intel analysts, so it appeared both bi-partisan and credible.

Now, so far as can be determined, the half of the Senate Democrats who went along with this were not working for the arrogant and hubristic goals of the Bush administration. Nor were the media in the tank on evidentiary matters because they were Bush partisans. In both cases, which were vitally important antecedent conditions to a successful bid to take the US to war, it was the Democratic senators' Zionism or influence from those quarters, and the same for the national media, that saw them play along with the charade.

I really do not think that Bush could have gone to war in Iraq and maintained his war president ratings for a time, a couple of years, without near national revolt, had there been no Democratic cover in the Senate (maybe slightly in the House, but not nearly so much), and had the media done their reporting objectively, or even had the normal intel vetting processes been maintained and worked correctly. If he had, or even signalled his plan to go forward against a united Democratic party unafraid to oppose him, and an objective media unafraid to report on the facts so hostile to the 'case' for war, I believe he would have had his '06 electoral repudiation in '02, and possibly never even stood for re-election. At least, that is arguable.