At first, I did not want to reproduce these disturbing images here, but Noreen Gosch has done so on her site, probably in the hope that someone might recognise the other boys. She says that the first photo depicts her son wearing the clothing he wore on the day of his disappearance. I see no immediate signs of fakery in either photo, although I'd like to have a better view of the shadow behind the head in the black-and-white picture. (There seems to be a shadow on the wall but not on the sheet; a more detailed reproduction might resolve this issue.)
Huff's Crime Blog offers this quote from the AP account:
The boy is wearing the same sweatpants Johnny was wearing when he disappeared while delivering newspapers on the morning of Sept. 5, 1982, his mother said...But are those actually sweatpants? See here.
Why would the perpetrator -- or someone else with inside knowledge of the crime -- make these images available now? An older description of Johnny's clothing held that he wore a "white sweatshirt with Kim’s Academy imprinted on the back, warm-up pants and blue rubber thong sandals." I can visualize a youngster wearing a sweatshirt over a football jersey or a t-shirt, but what 12-year-old would wear thick white socks with rubber thongs? (They look like socks to me, although some might see them as white tennis shoes.)
And why would the perpetrator buy a darker pair of sweat pants for him for the second photo?
For years, the Gosch kidnapping has been linked to long-standing rumors of high-level pedophile rings serving what some call, rather too vaguely, "the elite." The evidence in favor of this proposition remains inconclusive. Noreen Gosch testifies that she received an 1997 visit by a man claiming to be her son, accompanied by an unidentified individual. He said that he had been targeted and had spent ten years as a sex slave, and that he was now permanently in hiding. I do not doubt that she met a man who made such claims, but the example of the Tichborne claimant and other impostures forces us to take a cautious attitude. (Oddly, Noreen did not tell Johnny's father about this 1997 encounter.)
Gosch was also linked to the Franklin Case, based on the testimony on Paul Bonacci and the "investigations" of the notorious Ted Gunderson. I will not go into the Franklin imbroglio here, except to say that I cannot accept the word of Bonacci, who was influenced by a conspiracy-addicted right-wing minister. Although I suspect that something terrible did happen to him, many sufferers from Dissociative Identity Disorder -- as perhaps doc elsewhere may be able to confirm -- cannot distinguish between personal experience and the imagined. (Yes, I've read De Camp's book. Yes, I know about the judgment; see here for the truth about that case. Yes, I've seen Conspiracy of Silence. I have also spoken at length with an investigator who worked on that film, who showed me documentation you probably don't know about.)
What, then, to make of the current development in the Gosch case?
Those of a conspiratorial turn of mind have already latched onto two incompatible scenarios:
1. "They" (with a capital T) released this photo to distract everyone from larger political issues, such as the upcoming attack on Iran.
2. Someone who knows about the alleged child prostitution rings is manipulating "Them" by dribbling out pieces of the truth. Perhaps this "someone" is doing so in order to stop the bad guys from doing something really bad -- like attacking Iran.
Oddly, the John Mark Karr case fits into both scenarios. The link to scenario 1 should be obvious. As for the second possibility, take another look at what I consider the most haunting words ever uttered by the puzzling Mr. Karr:
"I may or may not have ever been to her grave, I may or may have not ever been to her house."Karr did not make this statement after his story fell apart. He said those words well before he became known to the public, in recorded interviews with former confidant Wendy Hutchens.
"Maybe that person who did that ... thinks it's important that someone confesses... And he's chosen that other person to do that in his place ..."
Coincidentally or otherwise, violent pedophilia -- and the rumors which have always surrounded such crimes -- have twice commanded the public's attention in the same month. Not long ago, similar stories made a huge splash in Mexico. Perhaps a big break is imminent in this country.
Nota bene: The new Gosch photos have also revived interest in the alleged Gosch/Guckert/Gannon connection, which is one of those unkillable memes.
The loopy theory that Johnny Gosch became "Jeff Gannon" was disproved some time ago. The ages don't match (Guckert is roughly a dozen years older), and a high school yearbook proves that Gannon/Guckert went to high school -- as Johnny Gosch probably did not -- and really is the age he claims to be. You can see here the whole story of how the yearbook evidence was uncovered. (Warning: You'll have to make your way through several very long threads.)
Not that mere proof will deter anyone who is determined to keep the Gosch-2-Guckert legend alive. As the Crime Blog puts it,
This is where I predict that I will receive at least one rather heated comment or e-mail arguing all the reasons Guckert is Gosch, because people really love their delusions, especially if political agendas are bound up in the fabric of those delusions. Go ahead and call me a tool of the vast right-wing conspiracy, if you wish — the Gosch/Guckert thing is a load of bull.
14 comments:
Excellent, rational analysis.
Thank you.
The photos are reversed. Noreen's blog has the dark pants first.
That said, I don't see much similarity between the first boy (pictured alone in dark pants) and the second boy (third from the left) with the light jeans. Could be an illusion but the apparent length from hip to ankle is shorter in the second photo than the first. Second photo boy is weightier.
And needless to say, Noreen's blog is freakish. Flashing at you when you click on something - Good lord. Not buyin.
And all that said, yes the photos are disturbing. They are someone's kids.
ooops again, forgot to sign, that was me anon 5.50 -
Miss P.
Joe,
I was hoping you would weigh in on the pictures. I have also seen the "Conspiracy of Silence" and read DeCamp's book. Unfortunately, a verifiable scandal - Craig Spence did bring teenage hookers into the White House, and did commit suicide (or was "suicided"?) the day before he was to have testified before congress - has been merged with the spurious accusations of Paul Bonacci, John DeCamp, and Ted Gunderson. I personally consider Ted Gunderson the litmus test for conspiracy theories - a story loses all credibility as soon as he is cited. Anyway, by combining Lawrence King, the Franklin Cover-up, Bohemenian Grove, Craig Spence, MK-Ultra, Michael Acquinas, Gary Caradori, Rusty Nelson, Johnny Gosch, Hunter Thomspon, and even Jeff Gannon into one twisted web, held together by such insubstantial threads, it has the effect of rendering the individual plots elements each as uncredible. As with 9/11 conspiracies, the theory is only as valid as it's most dubious element - by including details that strain the credulity of reasonable people, the whole theory becomes entirely dismissable. I do have a few questions. You wrote in your post:
"I have also spoken at length with an investigator who worked on that film, who showed me documentation you probably don't know about."
Any chance that you could elaborate? What parts of the Franklin Cover-up do you believe?
My other question is about the Craig Spence scandal. Why do you think that the only newspaper that ran with the story was the Washington Times? It seems strange that a newspaper established to further conservative causes would go after the Bush/Reagan whitehouse, while the Washington Post and the NY times stayed silent. And whatever happened to these prostitutes? Why have we never heard a single word from them? Did they just disappear? You would think that they would have a good story to tell, and that someone would have written that story.
Thanks Joe,
Dermo
Dermo: Write to me. I should mention that the source in question believed Bonacci, but the stuff I saw made me disbeleive him.
You've come a long way, Mr. Cannon. I can relate.
Thanks for the entry; I especially appreciate that you mention DID by its appropriate diagnostic term. I wasn't sure you would want to "go there" WRT to this development, especially if it meant interrupting your series on the 9/11 Truth crew. I myself...am not going to go there, 'cause I've had enough of this topic for one life cycle, except to post: the only thing that looks questionable to me about those photos is the brand.
I'm not saying the photos aren't genuine depictions of traumatized children or that they aren't an indication of the existence of the infamous network, but that mark, or Photoshop manipulation or whatever it is, has me squinting my eyes a lot. That's one thing that kinda makes it hard for me to choose between which popular online conspiracy theory about the significance of the photo's emergence I am more inclined to support. Probably the "disinfo-being-used-to-distract-the-Internet-anti-Bush crowd" theory, if for no other reason than that I no longer believe that threats of exposure (or at least, exposure as child rapists) truly frighten "the elite." (We'd have to see it on television and in a context in which it could get through to that frustrating 30% of the population who support W.'s agenda for said elite to recognize it as a threat.) Nor do I believe that anyone in a position to have anything like real photos of these crimes believes that.
Okay, wait...here's a random question I just thought of that I don't think was covered in the post: has there been anything on t.v. about these pictures? Because that might be significant of...something.
The big questions no one is asking....if the photo in the sweat pants was taken hours or days after the kidnapping why does it show the brand???
Supposidly the mother was told that he was branded on the hip months/years into the kidnapping as punishment for trying to escape.
Unfortunately, Noreen Gosch has really damaged her credibility over the years with a number of unlikely claims. For instance, she refused to rule out the possbility that Jeff Gannon was really Johnny, despite the ridiculousness of that issue. I would be skeptical of anything that she says.
I've always been intrigued by the Gosch / Martin kidnappings in Des Moines, specifically because I lived in Iowa City when Johnny Gosch disappeared and I lived in Des Moines when Eugene Martin Disappeared. However, I also lived (and was a paperboy) in Rockford Illinois when Joseph Didier disappeared (he was of course found - sexually assaulted and murdered) That case info is here if interested http://www.comportone.com/cpo/crime/articles/didier.htm
Unfortunately Noreen Gosch' theory is so twisted that it needs to be put into some sort of out line so I can follow it.
Howver, I do find the photographs chilling - no matter if their authentic or just "photoshopped" by someone with a sick mind.
Joseph, Thank you very much. I finally just closed the comments on that entry. It was getting ridiculous.
Anyone else think it odd that the MSM has not followed up on the story? I found one blurb about how the police are still attempting to determine if the photos are real - shouldn't this be a news-worthy case either way?
An investigator says the pics left for Noreen Gosch are actually from another investigation in Florida from years before Johnny ever disappeared. Which means that someone is playing a very cruel prank on this poor mother who is so obviously damaged from years of trying to make sense of this that she will latch on to everything. The fact that she can (and has) falsely identified two different boys as being her lost child and gone to the press to insist it is so has a lot to say about her mental state and to what end she can be trusted.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14818169/
If you go down the posts of this blog, you will see that one of the bloggers said that those pics came from a porno bondage site. Jacob Stales . com or something. I did not follow the link, did not want to end up on a page where I did not want to be. Another poster claimed to have followed the link, and it was a gallery of boys in bondage, so maybe this just some freak who saw the pictures and forwarded them to Noreen. Who knows...sick, sad story.
http://blogs.dmregister.com/?p=2317&cp=all#comments
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