Friday, September 15, 2006

Bush the Bloviator (now w/Bonus!)

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(Bonus Below)

The past few days, the media has actually been making much of the administration's two great pushes for legislation to erase their illegal activities detainee abuses and domestic spying. Of course, the media don't present the case quite that bluntly, but they have actually come close, to their increasing credit. The exchanges between David Gregory and both Tony Snow and the Prez have been replayed numerous times, and are notable for the bizarro Abbot and Costello confusions. "What? Oh, well, what was the question again? I'll restate, you said redefine. No, define. What? Replace? No, interpretation. Our European allies don't have an interpreation." And the like. Who's on first? Hell; who's on the waterboard? And what needs interpretation?

Though the domestic spying bill did get out of Senate committee on strictly party lines, Senator Reid has assured a group of bloggers that it will not - repeat, not - pass. Period. His message in this conversation evidently implied heavily the Dems are willing to filibuster, though the "F" word was not mentioned. Hard not to be heartened by this message.

For what it's worth (my fave phrase, in case you haven't noticed), the detainee abuse matter fares no better for Prez Brat and the Rove Rats. Georgie's performances with Matt Lauer and the general press, including David Gregory, have exposed his infamous belligerence. With Matt, he even responded to a question about his admission to the secret prisons with "So what?" Today he called a press conference and demonstrated this caustic and snide attitude yet again, becoming testy and taunting Congress to deliver his legislative demands "or else" he'll pull the program altogether. Along with his skates, one presumes.
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This threat represents a high stakes campaign strategy to place the Dems in a legislative double-bind, much like the one they confronted in '02 with the Iraq resolution (though this season it may well backfire). And, naturally, the law will protect our soldiers - and more importantly, their commanders and Commander-in-Chief - from prosecution for war crimes. We all recognize these as the self-serving subtext.

The more public presentation of this push appears to be Bush's intent to "clarify" the wording of the Geneva Conventions. He seems concerned that, in its present state, the vagueness jeopardizes our soldiers and CIA agents involved in these, erm, interrogations. Which is to say, or at least imply quite heavily, that they have not served us well at all these sixty years since their inception. And again, we can certainly read between these lines that the agenda is directed toward getting them off the war crimes hook.

Bush really threw down the gauntlet today, which gives me that deeply queasy feeling you get when you come within inches of getting creamed by a 4X4 in bumper to bumper traffic at breakneck speed. He wants to "clarify" these concepts, supposedly to "protect" our men in - and out of - uniform. The "quaint" Geneva Conventions no longer apply, and need to be fixed.

Let's look at the original wording of Article 3 of the Fourth Geneva Conventions:
In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end, the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

(b) Taking of hostages;

(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;

(d) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

2. The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.

An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict.

The Parties to the conflict should further endeavour to bring into force, by means of special agreements, all or part of the other provisions of the present Convention.

The application of the preceding provisions shall not affect the legal status of the Parties to the conflict.
Now, I ask you, as one human being to another, just what about these words is unclear? What is so vague? Need we define "cruelty?" Must we explain "humiliation?" What could be more obvious than "degradation" or "dignity?"

My concern is this: If Bush gets his way and prohibited behaviors are specified, such as waterboarding or sexual taunting or religious defamation or stress positions, then these will be against the law. It will be clear and well-defined and precisely specified that these activities are against the law. That might seem good to some, but here comes the sucker punch.

With these specified actions now expressly prohibited, the law will no longer prohibit a whole host of other equally - or worse - heinous and despicable behaviors that are easily understood under the more abstract categorical wording, yet expressly excluded with the new wording. Dare we trust the interrogators, or their commanders, to suppress their imagination for more horrifying tortures that escape these specifications?

We witness here an example of oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), often observed in kids who have never known constraints on or consequences to their behaviors. Teacher tells kid to behave and be good and treat others with respect. Kid responds, well, what do you mean, teach? What can I not do? Just tell me, and I won't do it.

Clearly, kid has no clue what respect or good behavior mean. So teach gives him a few examples; don't hit, don't threaten, don't tease. Kid says sure, gotcha, you're the boss, and then goes to great lengths to figure out ways to get around these specifics, pouring all his creative energies into crafting whatever he can get away with. Putting snakes in lockers, prank phone calls, tripping and shoving and spraying with paint balls; these are all ok, right? What?? They're not on the list! Nyah nyah na nyah nyah, you can't catch me.

This is the way laws get written, folks. The more specified they are, the more easily the wicked can careen around in the loopholes, leaving us blindsided in the relentless onslaught of traffic, and stunned in the wreckage.

[Bonus: Cannot believe my addled mind (more on this in the morning) left out this latest development, as it pulls all the pieces together so perfectly:
Not only is Bush ramping up the shell game of Osama's shifting importance in his campaign wars, but he has made this entire detainee abuse issue the centerpiece for his strategy for winning said war. Specifically,
"The way you win the war on terror," Bush said, "is to find people [who are terrorists] and get them to give you information about what their buddies are fixing to do."
You can almost see how they view this as a win-win for them; box in the legislation so they cannot be prosecuted for war crimes, box in the Dems with this legislation so they win the mid-terms. But you can also see, even smell their desperation, so riddled with craven cynicism and self-serving manipulation as it is.

Because, you know, these two things are so intricately and inherently intertwined, the mid-terms and the war crimes.]

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

A main problem (not that anyone will be at a loss for identifying many of them) is that he says:

"Were it not for this program, our intelligence community believes that al-Qaeda and its allies would have succeeded in launching another attack against the American homeland," Bush said in an hour-long news conference at the White House."

I didn't know we were still after Al Queda. I thought we were spreading democracy in Iraq.

Ok, let's say we were after the al Queda "types" the key word is were and he says would have succeeded and so yes, it's a CYA.

And, he's trying to make it sound as if we really are fighting al Queda. Win or lose the bill, he still will come out sounding that way.

Finally, there's the element of fear again - to the public - because of his hype.

Miss P.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention a potential set-up for Big Wedding II.

Miss P.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about you guys but when I watch this man, George W Bush, I do not even see the same person, human being, that George Bush even LOOKED LIKE, around the 9/11 time. He's fatter. He's slow to respond. He's unsure of answers. His language is different. He just " ain't right" is what I want to really say. He ain't right... I said it. But I mean this, he does not act right. He acts wierd. He appears to have totally lost it and the control he really really need to make this program continue. I think maybe I think he sounds programmed to the point of tears and is boring. Is anyone in America listening? I never watch HIM> I catch clips of him on the web. I cannot stomach him even pictures are hard....... I do ask for mercy though because just about every one of his domestic cuts have hit me below the knees........

Anonymous said...

And have you looked at Article 3 of the geneva Conventions. I am not super smart but I can read and understand plain english.... what is not to understand???? PLEASE DO NOT REWRITE ~decency~ Mr Decider. That would be a real bad decision.

Anonymous said...

You know, the Geneva conventions are the law the of land, since we are signatories. So if ever a Democratic administration takes over, the leaders of the present government can be tried at the Hague. Or so it seems to me.

Joseph Cannon said...

The proper response to Bush's "the way you win the war on terror" declaration: "You let Osama get away at Tora Bora. You delibrately allowed Al Qaeda leaders to fly (FLY!) to Pakistan. You have no right to lecture anyone on how to win the war on terror."

Anonymous said...

anon820, i agree, bush's behavior reminds me a lot of a cornered rat. he's defiant, pugnacious, and threatening.

while 9/11 ruins were still smoldering, he could coast on his high ratings, and so mustering the benevolence and calm of the beloved leader was not as much of a challenge to him, though reports still snuck through of his rudeness to outsiders and such.

now he's on the defensive, and it's not a pretty sight. i just have to say that, whoever is managing his meds, they have done a remarkable job of getting the cocktail just right since his near meltdowns in the debates two years ago. though i fully expect if things continue to tumble down around his ears that we'll be seeing more of those florid pathological moments in the near future.

Anonymous said...

(Let's do a little editing here...)

Q: But it says right there in the Commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.”

Mr. Snow: We're saying that the language is vague, and therefore you define it by putting together the proper framework for saying, I'm sorry, if you do this, you're guilty… You are in violation…if you do the following, and the following are the things that are specified…

Q: I'm asking you if you want to replace the --

MR. SNOW: Okay, well, that's what we're trying to do -- we're not trying to replace. The fact is these terms for the purposes of enactment and implementation, for the purposes of the people who are out in the field… it has absolutely no meat on the bones. There is no specification of which methods are legal and which are not, which approaches are, which are not, what activities… What we're trying to say is, no, guys, we'll tell you what is, and we'll do it in the context of a law that you've already passed and is already operative.

Q: Tony, I'm confused. Everybody I talked to today on the Hill says, look, you've had the Ten Commandments in place since 500 B.C. This isn't the Migratory Birds Treaty we're talking about. This is the Ten Commandments.

MR. SNOW: Right.

Q: And it's a very simple argument. We don't want to talk about the definition of amend or change, but that it stands on its own as written, hasn't been tinkered with since 500 B.C., doesn't need to be tinkered with now... where's the room to work anything out?

MR. SNOW: Well, I think there is. And this is a key point. Nobody has defined in law what the terms mean. And we think it's important not only that we define what the terms mean, but that our -- the people who are working for us, either as soldiers in the field, or those who are doing the … for the CIA, they have to know that it passes… muster, and it is defined and approved…

The reason nobody talked about this from 500 B.C. is, it hadn't come up. And there are times -- you'll be surprised to know --

Q: There's been a lot of wars.

MR. SNOW: But, you know what, Helen, it didn't apply to most of those wars. It didn't apply to most of those wars which is why people have not asked the questions.

Q: This seems -- hang on a second -- this seems to be --

MR. SNOW: Well, and let me just make the point here, the predicate of your question was, it had been sitting around and everybody knew what the meaning was, and the fact is, nobody knew what the meaning was.

Q: That's not my reading of it. I mean, it just says, “Thou shalt not kill.” It’s very unambiguous.

MR. SNOW: Well, again, I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think people are still talking about it.

(Okay, Mr. Snow, let's make the list. We won't kill by shooting, stabbing, bludgeoning, poisoning, boiling in oil, defenstration, strangulation, starvation...

--Haha! they left out freezing to death!! Leave him outside on the concrete all night naked!!)

Anonymous said...

Bush's "bad guy" push for the new "torture" program, and McCain, Graham and Warner's "good guys standing up to Bush" is nicely timed for the upcoming election.