After forbidding the use of video cameras and other recording devices, Pianka (supposedly) outlined a rather extreme method for dealing with this problem: Mass extermination.
He then showed solutions for reducing the world's population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved...Pianka's plea for radical depopulation received a standing ovation. Or so it is said.
AIDS is not an efficient killer, he explained, because it is too slow. His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years...
After praising the Ebola virus for its efficiency at killing, Pianka paused, leaned over the lectern, looked at us and carefully said, "We've got airborne 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that."
After reading this report, I could not help wondering: Is it true? Could a leading environmentalist actually have called for the used of germ warfare to destroy most of the human race? And could this blood-curdling cry have received warm applause from an audience of scientists?
In the dark realms inhabited by the most paranoid conspiracy buffs, stories of mass depopulation schemes have long circulated. These claims have an appeal which crosses ideological boundaries. For those on the left, scenarios of this sort seem the natural outcome of a very real history of racist oppression, while those on the right tend to embrace any claims which portray environmentalists as insensitive to human suffering.
Time, I felt, to separate rumor from fact. I decided to do some checking.
Specifically, I wrote to Dr. Pianka. Here (reprinted with his permission) is his reply:
Thank you for checking with me before you add more fuel to this fire. That SAS website and accompanying "Dr. Doom" article is complete bull. Of course, my views were twisted and sensationalized by some very irresponsible fundies. No video camera was present and certainly no video camera-person was "thrown out" as reported over and over again. One other obvious thing, they mistook irony, levity and hyperbole for "glee"! Nobody in his right mind could possibly be gleeful about this awful human predicament.Dr. Pianka sent me a good deal of supportive material. I could summarize it, but I don't think I need to do so. His response, as given above, should suffice. He strikes me as quite sensible and convincing.
This is a pure figment of some slandering fool's imagination, intended to make me into a scapegoat (actually, I have been "swift boated" in an attempt to make lay persons distrust scientists). It is scary what a few fools can do in one day on the internet. This was an organized and highly synchronized attempt intended to ruin my reputation. The Sequin Gazette piece was scheduled to run almost exactly when the "Dr. Doom" site went on-line and the entire thing was shunted off to the Drudge Report as long planned. This is an ongoing example of the Discovery Institute's conspiricy to defame scientists and to make lay people distrust science.
The blogosphere is truly worldwide -- I have received hate emails from all over the world, including some death threats (one called "Greetings" is attached). I am truly amazed at how polarized people can be, not to mention how many of them believe what they read on some blog website without checking any alternative sources.
I was somewhat gratified to receive a couple dozen apologies from people who said that a few days ago they had sent me nasty emails only to realize that they had been manipulated by the religious right, and they were sorry and would never do it again without cross checking sources.
I do not read my speeches (they are extemporaneous) and thus do not have a written transcript of exactly what I said, but my 50 minute talk was about the Vanishing Book of Life on Earth -- basically about the continuing destruction of natural habitats and other species by humans. Only the last 5-10 minutes were devoted to human overpopulation and that was been taken totally out of context. Someone taped the last few minutes of my talk and some of the question and answer session (transcript of this attached).
Dr. Pianka may well be correct in his suspicion that religious rightists intentionally twisted his words to fit their ideological template. Many conservative writers pretend that all environmentalists view human life with Olympian disdain. While the fundamentalists' dismissive attitude toward science is nothing new, I do wish that they would show less contempt for the commandment against false witness.
Update: The right-wing blogosphere is a separate universe. Until I googled the matter, I had no idea how big a controversy, both on the net and on talk radio, Pianka's speech had sparked. This mass outrage originated with a couple of writers who willfully misunderstood and misreported what the scientist had to say. In his lecture, Pianka argued that overpopulation would create epidemics, because nature has its own harsh-yet-effective corrective mechanisms. His critics transformed a warning into a recipe for action; in their hallucinations, a prediction became a prescription.
I have no way of knowing whether Dr. Pianka has accurately foreseen nature's reaction, although I certainly hope he is wrong. Even if he is, nothing excuses the actions of those demagogues who twisted his meaning in order to rouse a rabble.
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Wow! Thank you! I read about this right after it happened and wondered about it, but didn't have sense enough to just write and ask the good Doc. I appreciate your doing it and posting his reply.
In this country if there is a "war" against anything, it is against science. Thanks for being on top of it.
Anyone ever read an article called, "The Greening of Hate," about the 'alleged' right-wing infiltration of the environmental movement in the mid-'80s and early '90s, designed to both sabotage and discredit legitimate environmental research and push a pro-eugenics, 'population reduction' agenda in the name of "environmentalism" and "progress"? Just wondering.
I may have been the reader that alerted you to this story. Thanks for checking it out. Few of us have the chutzpa to actually email or telephone these people. Your gravitas license allows you to do so. Thank you, Joseph, for all that you do!
This is one of my favorite blogs. But I think we ought to be careful with the enemy of my enemy logic in this piece (ie righties hate pianka). You don't have to be a drooling neanderthal to be troubled by implications of the man's remarks. It was awfully convenient that, since he spoke extemporaneously, he did not dispute his claim that "we're no better than bacteria" or the utterly shocking assertion that "We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth.”
Whether or not Pianka actually advocates all-out bio-warfare to save the lizards, it's pretty clear from the article that he expressed some real ugly opinions. The only way I can see his ideas doesn't deserve harsh repudiation is if he basically didn't say ANY of the stuff in the article.
Given the level of detail, Mims presumably wrote the article from notes. Did you contact him to see if the reporting was fabricated?
Now, on the question of whether righties foamed at the mouth and generally made no sense...
I should have said "he did not dispute that he made the claim" etc
Someone recorded a couple of minutes' worth, and that transcript bears our Pianka's version of events. So does the transcript of a previous talk he has given on these topics. More to the point, the audience gave him an ovation. That's the telling detail which led me to look into this matter further. Only the worst sort of religiously-motivated conspiracy theorists would presume the scientists IN GENERAL are human-hating fiends.
If we mentally step back and try to see the planet from the standpoint of an impersonal, reified nature, we ARE no better than any other organism. That may not be the usual standpoint adopted by you and by me (and presumably not by Dr. Pianka). But it helps to try to see things from that perspective from time to time, because it tells us that we are not immune from nature's wrath.
Thanks for following up on this, Joseph. I remember thinking, during the original furore, that the context of Pianka's comments had been completely lost. I read comments by some of his friends and admirers to the effect that he is a wonderfully humane, caring individual who loves the earth passionately (as should we all) and humanity's conscious role in it, as well.
Coming as I do from a family of scientists and environmentalists, it was perhaps easier for me to see beyond the slanting of the right-wing reportage. But I'm grateful to you for revisiting the issue and clarifying it so lucidly.
i think you're off base on this one, cannon, the problem is not rightwing hysteria but the attempted infiltration and colonization of leftwing political & environmentalist space by those with a far-right agenda. sure, just because hitler was a vegetarian doesn't mean vegans are nazis, but there are indeed "stealth nazis" looking to co-opt progressive movements by various means. i'd say anyone who pushes "overpopulation" (a nonsensical concept) overly hard should be considered suspect. the greening of hate, indeed.
Anon 1:16... Overpopulation is a meaningless concept?
Please support that statement. Is it not true, for example, that a herd of deer will overpopulate its environs when not culled, and lead to starvation of the herd? Is it not true that an overpopulation of a harmful bacteria in the human body (eg, strep in the throat) will cause damage to the cells? Is it not true that the epidemic plagues of the Middle Ages were a consequence of too many people living in close quarters?
Please clarify.
briefly, in terms of human population, "overpopulation" is a myth. environmental problems and questions of earth's carrying capacity should be addressed in terms of misallocation and misuse of natural resources, not in terms of numerical population. further, there is a dark anti-humanist strain in certain crypto-fascist mystical circles, i.e. followers of savitri deivi, miguel serrano, julius evola, and so forth. the case of pianka in particular i would consider an open question, but the point is, that is the context in which questions about him are (or should be) raised, not right wing hysteria about environmentalism.
Thanks, anon. However, it seems clear to me, at least, that the earth is overpopulated--perhaps not numerically, but rather in the sense that you refer to, that of carrying capacity and allocation of resources. And I suspect that Pianka is right in a general way, and that mass extermination of the infecting species is imminent.
Although I'm not a cryptofascist, and probably not a mystic, either.
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