Sunday, November 07, 2004

Standards of evidence

Today, the Daily Kos drew our attention to someone calling himself "kid oakland," who argues against pursuing the allegations of fraud: "...in the absence of clear evidence of deliberate fraud, claims that the election was rigged are irresponsible and really bad politics." k.o. goes on to make some good points about touch screen voting.

My response:

Speaking as someone who HAS used, and will continue to use, the word "fraud," let me offer a few words of defense.

You say there is no clear evidence of fraud. But we all have differing standards of evidence. I cannot ask you to accept my standard, and you cannot demand that I accept yours.

By my standards, the pattern of disparity between the exit polls and the final tally constitutes sufficient evidence. I am not (to repeat a point I've made about a zillion times now) arguing that exit polls are accurate; I'm arguing that that the errors should go in both directions. In some states, the Republican vote should be undervalued and in some states the Democratic vote should be undervalued.

Yet it is ALWAYS the Republican vote that turns out to be undervalued. In state after state. In election after election.

How many times does a coin have to come up heads before you have sufficient grounds to suspect that this is no ordinary coin?

As for the argument that discussion of the issue is impolitic -- sorry, but this is the POST-election season. This is not a time when when I am going to worry about the larger strategic impact of every damn phoneme that escapes from my mouth. I have an obligation only to tell the truth as I see it. Screw all other considerations.

2 comments:

Joy Tomme said...

I don't even think we should consider the strategic implications of our remarks BEFORE elections. That's what the MSM is claiming now. They couldn't report on news stories about Bush that would have put him in a bad light. Why not? That meant that Bush, because he was the incumbent got preferential treatment over Kerry. The MSM apparently thought it was okay to put Kerry in a bad light and not okay to put Bush in a bad light because Bush was Prez.

That's ridiculous. News stories are news stories. Fraud is fraud. Otherwise, I agree totally with what you said to the person who said it's impolitic to investigate voter fraud. By that logic, a murder cannot be investigated because it hasn't been proven to be a murder.

The Repugs are absolute masters at the circular argument...I'll give them that, because apparently a lot of people bought into it.

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Joy Tomme said...

And another thing...investigating voter fraud is "bad politics" as compared to what?

If someone can point me to an example of good politics in the last four years I am eager to hear it. The Republicans have a history of nothing but bad politicking. What's this bullshit about bad poltics being verboten in the political arena? When did that caveat become important in the GOP camp? I must have missed something.

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