Saturday, November 27, 2004

Round two: Wayne Madsen on the funding for vote fraud (UPDATED -- scroll down!)

A minute after I posted the piece below (which expresses a certain "morning after" skepticism toward Wayne Madsen's piece on vote fraud funding), I received word that Madsen's follow-up article had just made the Online Journal. You can read it here.

Bottom line: Madsen's sources still do not have names, and he probably won't get mainstream attention until someone goes on the record. But the story he tells is nevertheless intriguing:

The epicenter for the vote rigging operation is Dallas, Texas, and the operation may involve retired FBI agents who used a well-established "good ole boy" network to arrange for access to polling precincts by electronic voting machine technicians who took advantage of various November 2 security "lockdowns" to illegally alter the tabulation of votes in favor of Bush.
(This is not the first time I've heard references to an ad hoc organization of right-wing former FBI agents. But I swear -- if the dreaded name of "Ted G." shows up in the midst of all this, I am going to roll my eyes and switch to writing about chili recipes and movie reviews.)

Madsen says that the electoral "counting houses" in key states were "locked down" (that is, removed from exterior scrutiny), a claim that has fathered a fairly complex argument in the Democratic Underground forums. We do have certain knowledge of one such lock down in Ohio. Vote fraud, Madsen says, occurred when the curtain was pulled. The whole operation cost over $29 million dollars.

This reporter has obtained a copy of a bank check for $29,600,000 that was allegedly sent to cover the cost of the Texas-based vote rigging operation. The check is dated October 22, 2004, and was made payable to "Five Star Investment Ltd.," a trust said to have long connections to Saudi-funded operations in Texas and around the world.
So at least we know this much: Madsen's source -- whoever the hell he is -- established his credentials by waving around a copy of this rather startling check.

Question: Would someone with access to that check (or a copy) really be willing to divulge the scheme to a guy like Wayne Madsen? Sure, Madsen has written some terrific articles, but much of his work remains (unfairly) consigned to the progressive "ghetto." Why wouldn't an insider-turned-talker turn to 60 Minutes, Tom Brokaw, CNN, the New York Times, or any number of other mainstream sources?

Checks can be faked. Not long ago, Steven Spielberg made a film illustrating that very premise.

I am reminded of two of Karl Rove's previous tricks: 1. The "W did coke" story, which was handed to the easily-discredited James Hatfield; and 2. The national guard documents palmed off on Bill Burkett. (Let's not kid ourselves: We all know who engineered that last one.)

Is this $29 million check of a similar nature? Uncle Karl is sneakiness personified. And he may well have a personal grudge against Wayne Madsen, who once referred to Bush's chief consigliere as "America's Joseph Goebbels."

Read Madsen's article -- hell, read all his stuff -- and come to your own conclusions. He may have hold of something important. But right now, we cannot be sure.

UPDATE: This bit from Madsen's piece struck me as Google-worthy:

On October 6, 2004, some two weeks before Equity Financial Trust transferred the money to Five Star Investment Ltd., the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions for Canada listed Equity Financial Trust, along with Bankers Financial and Security Trust, Falcon Financial and Trust, and Unity Virtual Trust Group as "unauthorized financial institutions." In fact, the check for $29.6 million, which is marked "Not to exceed fifty million dollars," is drawn on the Laurentian Bank of Canada's Toronto branch.
I typed in the words "Equity Financial Trust" and sure 'nuff -- this page came up.

OSFI continues to receive information regarding entities posing as financial institutions. It is believed that these names are being used as part of various advance fee or “Nigerian letter” scams.
A small list of these entities follows, and on that list we find Equity Financial Trust, which does indeed have an address in Toronto.

Which leaves us with this nagging question: Would the Rovian hordes use fraudsters associated with that notorious "Nigerian letter" scam?

Maybe. Maybe con artists of that low sort travel on a far more rarified level than we ever dreamed. Or maybe someone is trying to mislead Wayne Madsen -- and, by extension, you and me.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ok -- I am a former conservative coming from a republican family going all the way back to Abe Lincoln who are very upset with the party and have taken a big leap by leaving it -- because of what we know.

I was married to one of the drug smugglers for Olie North... Yes, Oliver North was GUILTY. So were all the people involved -- some very dirty, dirty intelligence people and higher ups in government -- working for the Republican party... And Yes, Reagan DID know.

Ok -- so bringing you to the current day:

I say that Madsen has nothing to gain by coming forward except his life threatened.

If the check holder that gave Madsen a "copy" gets his money, he can use Madsen as the Fall Guy.

Republicans do this ALL the time -- just ask those Dead people in Central America that were used as fall guys for the Republican Iran-Contra Drug Smuggling for Guns Affair --

However, if the check holder does not get his money, then Madsen becomes the quintessential "hero" or "whistleblower"...

Sounds like a dangerous position for Madsen.

Not that I totally believe Madsen.

BUT,

SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE --

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A BUNCH OF THUGS AND LOW-LIFE CRIMINALS WHO WILL KILL ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO GETS IN THEIR WAY...

So, I say that Madsen is actually, VERY BRAVE --

LET'S GIVE MADSEN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT -- HE HAS NOTHING TO GAIN BY RISKING HIS LIFE BY EXPOSING THE BUSH FRAUD.

UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE, UNDERSTAND THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE BY MARRIAGE OR FAMILIAL TIES TO THE DIRTY REPUBLICANS WHO KILL THOSE WHO GET IN THEIR WAY, THEN YOUR SPECULATION DOES NOT MEAN AS MUCH AS THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE -- AND SURVIVED THE REPUBLICAN NIGHTMARE BECAUSE I'VE WITNESSED THINGS THEY DO IN ORDER TO GET THEIR WAY. AND IT'S NOT A CAKE WALK.

SIGN ME,

A FORMER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THAT NIGHTMARE!

Anonymous said...

Ok -- I am a former conservative coming from a republican family going all the way back to Abe Lincoln who are very upset with the party and have taken a big leap by leaving it -- because of what we know. I was married to one of the drug smugglers for Olie North... Yes, Oliver North was GUILTY. So were all the people involved -- some very dirty, dirty intelligence people and higher ups in government -- working for the Republican party... And Yes, Reagan DID know.

Ok -- so bringing you to the current day:

I say that Madsen has nothing to gain by coming forward except his life threatened. If the check holder that gave Madsen a "copy" gets his money, he can use Madsen as the Fall Guy.

Republicans do this ALL the time -- just ask those Dead people in Central America that were used as fall guys for the Republican Iran-Contra Drug Smuggling for Guns Affair --

However, if the check holder does not get his money, then Madsen becomes the quintessential "hero" or "whistleblower"...

Sounds like a dangerous position for Madsen.

Not that I totally believe Madsen.

BUT,

SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE --

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A BUNCH OF THUGS AND LOW-LIFE CRIMINALS WHO WILL KILL ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO GETS IN THEIR WAY...

So, I say that Madsen is actually, VERY BRAVE --

LET'S GIVE MADSEN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT -- HE HAS NOTHING TO GAIN BY RISKING HIS LIFE BY EXPOSING THE BUSH FRAUD.

UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE, UNDERSTAND THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE BY MARRIAGE OR FAMILIAL TIES TO THE DIRTY REPUBLICANS WHO KILL THOSE WHO GET IN THEIR WAY, THEN YOUR SPECULATION DOES NOT MEAN AS MUCH AS THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE -- AND SURVIVED THE REPUBLICAN NIGHTMARE BECAUSE I'VE WITNESSED THINGS THEY DO IN ORDER TO GET THEIR WAY. AND IT'S NOT A CAKE WALK.

SIGN ME,

A FORMER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THAT NIGHTMARE!

Anonymous said...

Oops, forgot to add: For more on the Ohio situation visit CASE-Ohio (Citizens' Alliance for Secure Elections)at:

http://www.caseohio.org/CaseOhio/index.htm

CASE plans to update its site with info about the Dec. 4 rally in Columbus sometime this weekend.

Please plan to be there, even if you live outside Ohio. And make sure you encourage everyone you know to attend the rally.

Anonymous said...

Although I don't share Pomeroo's (sp.) total skepticism about this "conspiracy" (or whatever the appropriate name for it is) I keep wondering why the story hasn't been picked up by anybody (to my knowledge) other than this blog -- where's Dan Rather when we really need him? :^> Seriously (if such a word can be used in this discussion) why haven't any of the foreign news agency picked up and run with it? That seems to be the way other so-called conspiracies get legs -- the foreign press isn't beholden to the Repugthugs (and I wouldn't put murder past them, sorry Pomeroo (sp.) and the ferriners certainly have a vested interest in derailing this "re-election". But, incredible as it may seem, there ARE dishonest people in the world who have internet access (I was one of those fooled a few years ago by a Nigerian letter scam -- fortunately, a friend slapped me out of it before I got in too deep) and they have and will continued to come up with all sorts of phony stuff to fool other people (like the note above from the wife of one of Ollie North's drug smugglers -- give me a break, I laughed all the way through it!) for whatever reason (money, politics, or just your average every day run-of-the-mill evildoing). It would be SO much fun to have another Watergate scandal bringing down the so-called president, but I doubt it's gonna happen. SIGH

Anonymous said...

Although I don't share Pomeroo's (sp.) total skepticism about this "conspiracy" (or whatever the appropriate name for it is) I keep wondering why the story hasn't been picked up by anybody (to my knowledge) other than this blog -- where's Dan Rather when we really need him? :^> Seriously (if such a word can be used in this discussion) why haven't any of the foreign news agency picked up and run with it? That seems to be the way other so-called conspiracies get legs -- the foreign press isn't beholden to the Repugthugs (and I wouldn't put murder past them, sorry Pomeroo (sp.) and the ferriners certainly have a vested interest in derailing this "re-election". But, incredible as it may seem, there ARE dishonest people in the world who have internet access (I was one of those fooled a few years ago by a Nigerian letter scam -- fortunately, a friend slapped me out of it before I got in too deep) and they have and will continued to come up with all sorts of phony stuff to fool other people (like the note above from the wife of one of Ollie North's drug smugglers -- give me a break, I laughed all the way through it!) for whatever reason (money, politics, or just your average every day run-of-the-mill evildoing). It would be SO much fun to have another Watergate scandal bringing down the so-called president, but I doubt it's gonna happen. SIGH

Anonymous said...

In Canada, Laurentian is synonymous with "Rothschild" and this is the bank that put Chretien in power. See what Lenny Bloom at cloakanddagger.ca says about it. He knows what's going on in Toronto.

Anonymous said...

I think there is a conspiracy to steal the vote, but it's difficult to determine what information is genuine and what is a red herring. I think Madsen is on the up and up at this point, and it would not surprise me if former FBI agents were posing as security officials as he outlined. I do want to point something out that I've not seen discussed anywhere else. I live in Cincinnati, in Hamilton County, which is adjacent to Warren County, where the election night "lockdown" took place. A few weeks before the election, our county sherrif, Si Leis, and the Cincinnati Police Chief Tom Streicher sent out letters to local businesses warning of a possible "terrorist threat" that might involve the elections. They claim they were warned by Homeland Security. This was a front page article in the Cincinnati Enquirer. Homeland Security said they had issued no such warning to them and if an official warning were in order, Homeland Security would issue it, not the county sherrif or police chief. I find it odd that two counties in Southwest Ohio claimed they received warnings of "terrorist threats" that Homeland Security denied issuing.

Joseph Cannon said...

Folks, I know that the "Blogger" interface can be pretty weird at times. Perhaps that explains the multiple postings of the same comment. But if it happens too often, I'll have to switch to the Haloscan add-a-comment system, which will allow me to remove posts. Alas, such a switch will also remove all previously-existing posts -- not a good thing.

Those who don't like the political tone of my writings are welcome to go elsewhere; we have no shortage of right-wing sites. I put too much time into this page to allow it to be commandeered by an opposition viewpoint. The right has the courts, the presidency, the congress, the voting machines and most of the media; they do not need this humble page. Cannonfire is large-D Democratic, but not small-d democratic.

You don't like them apples? Start your own blog!

Anonymous said...

Joseph: Hear, hear! (Regarding "those who don't like those apples".) I've noticed that your would-be "detractors" here, like pomeroo, are very long on hot air and very short on substantiation.

Any *idiot* can write "Oh, that's phoney", pomeroo. Try proving it for a change! Last time I looked, you weren't listed in the "Who's Who of Universal Experts."

Keep 'em coming, Joseph! In speaking truth to power, you've more than established yourself as a true American.

JMF

Anonymous said...

It amazes me no end that those believers in Bush's morality discount his whole background. For God's sake read his business failure after failure,and who bailed him out each time ! Read Karl Rove's mentor and his background, what you can find that hasn't been buried. The only promises he doesn't break are to polluters and big contributors. The taxpayers are forgotten.
And yet the masses still believe ! Incrediable !

I would like to post a sticky note on each SUV that has a yellow ribbbon to "support" our troops.
How many have died for your gas guzzler? Maybe one owner of 100 would start to think.
So selfish that we won't give up our toys for the lives of the brave troops being wounded (over 8000 now ) and killed.
Is anyone thinking about the cost of taking care of 8000 wounded and 30,000 emotionally wounded? Does anyone care that information on killed and wounded is skewed so the American public doesn't know the actual killed?

Doesn't anyone think it strange that we are interfering in Ukraine's election but not looking at ours?
The media is so afraid of having the debacle of Dan Rather's story they won't touch all the evidence piling up on the stolen election.
How much evidence is needed before SOMEONE with authority can bring some light on it.

Is anyone aware that bank systems are being brought down by hackers? Reported in the USA Today and I personally know of it happening to a bank within the last 3 weeks. So you think the touch screens are infallable?

To the poster that laughed at the thought that murder has not been committed for the Republican cause go back and read about Watergate.

Read the website 911truth.org. these are not rumors but actual facts unanswered by our moral administration.

Yes I am angry that all I believed my whole life, the honesty, integrity was the way to conduct your successful life is a sham.
Now it is play as dirty as you can and you will get the rewards! Pretend you are a Christian and the masses will follow.

Whatever happen to the thinking, questioning people who encouraged thinking how to improve life?

Anonymous said...

It amazes me no end that those believers in Bush's morality discount his whole background. For God's sake read his business failure after failure,and who bailed him out each time ! Read Karl Rove's mentor and his background, what you can find that hasn't been buried. The only promises he doesn't break are to polluters and big contributors. The taxpayers are forgotten.
And yet the masses still believe ! Incrediable !

I would like to post a sticky note on each SUV that has a yellow ribbbon to "support" our troops.
How many have died for your gas guzzler? Maybe one owner of 100 would start to think.
So selfish that we won't give up our toys for the lives of the brave troops being wounded (over 8000 now ) and killed.
Is anyone thinking about the cost of taking care of 8000 wounded and 30,000 emotionally wounded? Does anyone care that information on killed and wounded is skewed so the American public doesn't know the actual killed?

Doesn't anyone think it strange that we are interfering in Ukraine's election but not looking at ours?
The media is so afraid of having the debacle of Dan Rather's story they won't touch all the evidence piling up on the stolen election.
How much evidence is needed before SOMEONE with authority can bring some light on it.

Is anyone aware that bank systems are being brought down by hackers? Reported in the USA Today and I personally know of it happening to a bank within the last 3 weeks. So you think the touch screens are infallable?

To the poster that laughed at the thought that murder has not been committed for the Republican cause go back and read about Watergate.

Read the website 911truth.org. these are not rumors but actual facts unanswered by our moral administration.

Yes I am angry that all I believed my whole life, the honesty, integrity was the way to conduct your successful life is a sham.
Now it is play as dirty as you can and you will get the rewards! Pretend you are a Christian and the masses will follow.

Whatever happen to the thinking, questioning people who encouraged thinking how to improve life?

Anonymous said...

It amazes me no end that those believers in Bush's morality discount his whole background. For God's sake read his business failure after failure,and who bailed him out each time ! Read Karl Rove's mentor and his background, what you can find that hasn't been buried. The only promises he doesn't break are to polluters and big contributors. The taxpayers are forgotten.
And yet the masses still believe ! Incrediable !

I would like to post a sticky note on each SUV that has a yellow ribbbon to "support" our troops.
How many have died for your gas guzzler? Maybe one owner of 100 would start to think.
So selfish that we won't give up our toys for the lives of the brave troops being wounded (over 8000 now ) and killed.
Is anyone thinking about the cost of taking care of 8000 wounded and 30,000 emotionally wounded? Does anyone care that information on killed and wounded is skewed so the American public doesn't know the actual killed?

Doesn't anyone think it strange that we are interfering in Ukraine's election but not looking at ours?
The media is so afraid of having the debacle of Dan Rather's story they won't touch all the evidence piling up on the stolen election.
How much evidence is needed before SOMEONE with authority can bring some light on it.

Is anyone aware that bank systems are being brought down by hackers? Reported in the USA Today and I personally know of it happening to a bank within the last 3 weeks. So you think the touch screens are infallable?

To the poster that laughed at the thought that murder has not been committed for the Republican cause go back and read about Watergate.

Read the website 911truth.org. these are not rumors but actual facts unanswered by our moral administration.

Yes I am angry that all I believed my whole life, the honesty, integrity was the way to conduct your successful life is a sham.
Now it is play as dirty as you can and you will get the rewards! Pretend you are a Christian and the masses will follow.

Whatever happen to the thinking, questioning people who encouraged thinking how to improve life?

Anonymous said...

It amazes me no end that those believers in Bush's morality discount his whole background. For God's sake read his business failure after failure,and who bailed him out each time ! Read Karl Rove's mentor and his background, what you can find that hasn't been buried. The only promises he doesn't break are to polluters and big contributors. The taxpayers are forgotten.
And yet the masses still believe ! Incrediable !

I would like to post a sticky note on each SUV that has a yellow ribbbon to "support" our troops.
How many have died for your gas guzzler? Maybe one owner of 100 would start to think.
So selfish that we won't give up our toys for the lives of the brave troops being wounded (over 8000 now ) and killed.
Is anyone thinking about the cost of taking care of 8000 wounded and 30,000 emotionally wounded? Does anyone care that information on killed and wounded is skewed so the American public doesn't know the actual killed?

Doesn't anyone think it strange that we are interfering in Ukraine's election but not looking at ours?
The media is so afraid of having the debacle of Dan Rather's story they won't touch all the evidence piling up on the stolen election.
How much evidence is needed before SOMEONE with authority can bring some light on it.

Is anyone aware that bank systems are being brought down by hackers? Reported in the USA Today and I personally know of it happening to a bank within the last 3 weeks. So you think the touch screens are infallable?

To the poster that laughed at the thought that murder has not been committed for the Republican cause go back and read about Watergate.

Read the website 911truth.org. these are not rumors but actual facts unanswered by our moral administration.

Yes I am angry that all I believed my whole life, the honesty, integrity was the way to conduct your successful life is a sham.
Now it is play as dirty as you can and you will get the rewards! Pretend you are a Christian and the masses will follow.

Whatever happen to the thinking, questioning people who encouraged thinking how to improve life?

Anonymous said...

It amazes me no end that those believers in Bush's morality discount his whole background. For God's sake read his business failure after failure,and who bailed him out each time ! Read Karl Rove's mentor and his background, what you can find that hasn't been buried. The only promises he doesn't break are to polluters and big contributors. The taxpayers are forgotten.
And yet the masses still believe ! Incrediable !

I would like to post a sticky note on each SUV that has a yellow ribbbon to "support" our troops.
How many have died for your gas guzzler? Maybe one owner of 100 would start to think.
So selfish that we won't give up our toys for the lives of the brave troops being wounded (over 8000 now ) and killed.
Is anyone thinking about the cost of taking care of 8000 wounded and 30,000 emotionally wounded? Does anyone care that information on killed and wounded is skewed so the American public doesn't know the actual killed?

Doesn't anyone think it strange that we are interfering in Ukraine's election but not looking at ours?
The media is so afraid of having the debacle of Dan Rather's story they won't touch all the evidence piling up on the stolen election.
How much evidence is needed before SOMEONE with authority can bring some light on it.

Is anyone aware that bank systems are being brought down by hackers? Reported in the USA Today and I personally know of it happening to a bank within the last 3 weeks. So you think the touch screens are infallable?

To the poster that laughed at the thought that murder has not been committed for the Republican cause go back and read about Watergate.

Read the website 911truth.org. these are not rumors but actual facts unanswered by our moral administration.

Yes I am angry that all I believed my whole life, the honesty, integrity was the way to conduct your successful life is a sham.
Now it is play as dirty as you can and you will get the rewards! Pretend you are a Christian and the masses will follow.

Whatever happen to the thinking, questioning people who encouraged thinking how to improve life?

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