Thursday, February 08, 2007

The Edwards campaign fires anti-Catholic bloggers

The Edwards campaign, under pressure from the right, fired two bloggers who previously had published obnoxious and ill-informed posts about the Roman Catholic church. I applaud the move. This country has a long history of anti-Catholic bigotry -- the Know-Nothing Party is still, in a sense, the majority party.

The two bloggers were Amanda Marcotte of the Pandagon blog site and Melissa McEwan, whose blog is named -- ironically enough -- Shakespeare’s Sister. I say "ironic" because the evidence is persuasive (though not conclusive) that Shakespeare came from a Catholic family, and had to hide his faith because he lived in a day and place when Catholics who did not abjure their beliefs could be murdered with impunity.

Alas, quite a few fans of the film V for Vendetta have no idea as to the cause which motivated Guy Fawkes. Had the film-makers mentioned that little historical nugget, box-office might have suffered.

Please understand that I myself have no religious affiliation; as I've said before, I seem permanently mired in the realm between Gnosticism and agnosticism. My sympathies will always be with the Gandalf-like Cathar parfaits, not with the Inquisitors who burned them.

But my people were Italian. Family history is a living memory. Prejudice did not make life easier for my great-Grandfather when he came to this country.

You judge a tree by its fruits, as a wise Jewish fella once said. The faith of my forebears -- for all its many failings and stupidities -- gave the world Bernini and Bruckner. And what has Americano Southern Baptist Babbitry given the world? Precious Moments and the Grand Ol' Opry. The current Pope has done nothing to make me admire him -- but that doesn't change the fact that, in Catholicism, a strong intellectual tradition continually wrestles with the forces of reaction. In the land of LaHaye and Falwell, it's all anti-intellectualism, all the time.

Can you name a Southern Baptist equivalent to Meister Eckhart or Teilhard de Chardin? I'll give you five minutes. Let's be generous: Ten.

Again: You judge a tree by its fruits.

It's pretty clear from this ABC News piece that Amanda Marcotte uses anti-Catholicism as a scapegoat for what bothers her about American Protestant fundamentalism. This is a phenomenon I've noticed for years: When Americans get pissed off at Pat Robertson, they take a swing at the Pope -- sort of like going after Saddam after you've been attacked by Osama. Some Americans also use anti-Catholicism as an acceptable variant of anti-Semitism: Those who cannot confess out loud that Jews annoy them relieve their tensions by tossing dreck in the general direction of the Vatican. For those raised within the American Protestant tradition, even for those infuriated by that tradition, the enemy must always be The Other, the Eternal Outsiders -- i.e., those damn Eye-Talyans, Frogs, Micks, Spicks and Polacks.

Indeed, I suspect that The DaVinci Code owes much of its American popularity to this psychological displacement phenomenon. Those with legitimate doubts about the "verities" of Christian origins prefer to blame that other church overseas -- which they foolishly see as monolithic and powerful -- not the home-grown faith -- which, in actual practice, is far, far more powerful, and wears a much tighter straitjacket of the mind.

Here are some facts, Amanda: The Church, for all its sins, did not support the Iraq war, does not condone Israel's abuses, does not support the death penalty, and does not favor dog-eat-dog capitalism as the only permissible economic system. Those are all Southern Baptist "thangs," and if they make you mad (as they ought), I'll thank you very much to direct your venom toward the crimson-necked primates inhabiting the Sahara of the Bozart. They are the ones singing It's G-L-O-R-Y to be S-A-V-E-D; Catholicism recognizes Presumption as a sin. They are the ones who pray to Ares under the name of Jesus, and thus revere gunfire as a sacrament. Catholics pray to Isis under the name of Mary -- and everyone knows that Mom doesn't want to send her boys off to war unless absolutely necessary.

Readers may legitimately call me a hypocrite. Are not my daily writings every bit as "edgy," opinionated and offensive as those produced by Marcotte and McEwan? You bet! For example, I've made no secret of my feelings toward American southerners. My Jewish friends don't consider me an anti-Semite, but some Jews must surely despise what I've written about Israel.

Here's the difference: I would never work for any candidate's campaign.

You see, in spite of everything written above, I applaud Marcotte and McEwan for speaking their minds on their blogs. They have a right to their views -- a right to be wrong. I exercise the same right rather too often.

But bloggers must realize: They -- we -- will always stand outside the campaign process. The moment we set up a place of online business and start serving up hot words, we forevermore give up our right to be players. Our proper place is in the observation booth.

That assessment may seem harsh. It is harsh. Much talent must go under-utilized. Everyone suspects that Josh Marshall hopes, one day, to be the West Wing's Josh Liman, and I think he'd do damn well in a job like that. But Marshall can never hold such a position.

Anything you write can and will be used against you. That is Fact One of Blogworld. Any blogger worth reading will piss people off. That is Fact Two. We must therefore confine ourselves to those realms where Fact One and Fact Two do not matter. We must find ways to do our thing without doing harm to candidates and causes we favor.

One final question: While Edwards was correct to dissociate his campaign from Marcotte and McEwen, why did the Republicans get a free pass when they invited the psychotically anti-Catholic Tim LaHaye to address one of their conventions? (That happened in 1980 or 1984 -- I cannot recall which year offhand, but I know it happened.)

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree with all of Joseph's comments about Southern Baptists, and most of those about Roman Catholicism. However, please do not characterize all of American Protestantism as fundamental and evangelical. Mainstream Protestant traditions are centrist to liberal, socially progressive, and even intellectual (such as Presbyterians,Unitarians,Quakers Congregationists,etc). Many have taken anti-war stands and will at least debate controversial issues such as homosexuals in the life of the church. Amy

sunny said...

When Catholic Church reactionaries keep their religion out of politics, I'll agree they are immune from political criticism. But church officials threatened to excommunicate or withold communion from Kerry because of his stance on abortion. We could go on with examples of political meddling, if you'd like.

You brought this up:

Catholics who did not abjure their beliefs could be murdered with impunity.

Bloody Mary. The Inquisition. Wickedness and debaucherey. Pedophile priests protected and even coddled by the highest church officials.

You judge a tree by its fruits, as a wise Jewish fella once said. The faith of my forebears -- for all its many failings and stupidities -- gave the world Bernini and Bruckner.

Yes, your Italian forebears, not the Catholic Church itself.

Can you name a Southern Baptist equivalent to Meister Eckhart or Teilhard de Chardin? I'll give you five minutes. Let's be generous: Ten.

Umm, yeah.

That said, I do agree that the Dominionists pose a much greater danger to our freedom of, well, everything, than Catholics, but lets not pretend they should be immune from criticism by citing their supposed superiority. The bloggers said what they said and should have been better vetted by the campaign, but if Edwards is such a coward he can't be trusted to take a strong stand in defence of his staffers, he can't be trusted to stand up to the right on anything

Nunzia Rider said...

um, amanda and melissa haven't been fired ...

Anonymous said...

sofla said...

Joe's original position (probably amended now, that Edwards hasn't fired these two) is a bit of catch-22.

If Edwards had dumped them, it wouldn't have meant he doesn't have the stones to be president and make tough decisions.

It would be more like a political Occam's razor, that one shouldn't multiply political difficulties unnecessarily (and early), and similar to Clinton's decision not to push for Lannie Guinier's (sp?) appointment as a Justice official, or not to push for his original plan to integrate gays into the military by executive order.

One cannot fight every battle, but rather must exercise a type of political triage, choosing the battles that matter the most, or else surely, ones agenda would die by a thousand cuts.

Anonymous said...

Can you name a Southern Baptist equivalent....
How about Jimmy Carter? Bill Clinton? Harry Truman? Shirley Chisolm? Bill Moyers? Hugo Black? John D. Rockefeller? John D. MacArthur (Fellowships)? Cornell West? Roy Orbison? Johnny Cash? Kris Kristofferson?
Granted, not all are budding de Chardins, but all significant......and in under ten minutes.
As for the magnanimity of the catholic church, especially the current pope, what happened to the liberation theology movement and the priests who fostered it in South America? Oh, yeah, this current pope was the last pope's instrument in abolishing it.

fallinglady

Joseph Cannon said...

fallinglady, I admire a lot of those people myself, but I was hoping for some professional clerics or theologians. Then again, the line IS a bit ambiguous. Jimmy Carter has taught Sunday School, as has, I believe, Bill Clinton. Johnny Cash? Great guy, and he did appear in evangelical crusades.

Still, these are not clerics, not mystics, not intellectuals within the church leadership. Fine people and excellent role models (except for John D.). But not what I was thinking of.

I guess with Southern Baptist culture, the best tend to be within the laity. Perhaps that is as it should be.

And I should have specified white Southern Baptist culture. African American churches have such a radically different political and cultural vantage point, that I usually do not think of them as really being part of the same tradition.

I think I mentioned that I have no love for Benedict, and I wasn't crazy about Wojtilya, either. But there is, and always has been a Liberation theology movement, which cannot stay quiescent for long. And that is my point.

Americans think of the RC church as a monolith, as a factory producing robots, all programmed to think and behave and the same way. And it's just not true. There have been and will be Communist Catholics and Nazi Catholics and everything-in-between Catholics. There will be mystical Catholics and pragmatic Catholics. There will be doltish Catholics and ultra-intellectual Catholics. The Roman curia is the glue -- the very weak glue -- holding this insanely disparate group together.

Alas, not even a surgical operation could remove the "Rome creates robots" idea from the heads of ill-informed Prots. This perception bothers me, because within American Protestant Fundamentalism I see far less tolerance for variation, and far more robotic behavior.

AJ said...

"You judge a tree by its fruits.."

Enough said.

Excellent Joseph!
Well written and interesting to read.

Anonymous said...

your "hero of the faith" DeChardin was censured, censored, rejected, considered heretical by the catholic (Vatican crooks and criminals throughout their sordid history) hierarchy. Sentimentality about your religious eyetalian memories and sympathies is an insufficient rationale..if you value "objectivity" as you aspire to.
It has always struck me as odd about peoples religious attachments and loyalties. The denial of the crimes of the priesthood, throughout Protestantism as well as Catholicism's bloody and torturous history on the part of catholic laity is far far greater than Protestantism's mainly because they (Catholicism) were the only game in town for a thousand years and more.
Luther protested a few of the catholic church false doctrines but turned around and set up a very similar state/church paradigm that has held sway ever since.
The entire structure of christianity will have to be totally reformed to escape the dire consequences of the predictions in the bible, that "the whore of Babylon", the false fallen church and its worldly teachings, will take the church down the road to judgement and perdition. It is no accident of history that Babylon is sixty miles south of Baghdad, as we speak, and that all the christians that support that ghastly enterprise, are doomed to suffer the consequences when Jesus returns to fulfill His destiny as judge (and executioner) of this war weary planet.

Anonymous said...

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Joseph Cannon said...

I was going to delete anon 8:58's comment, but then I thought: This sort of thing really does make atheism look good.

Still, my much-despised readers did not prove themselves to be quite as bigoted as I predicted. What's the matter guys -- can't you lower yourselves to the occasion? You could have brought up Chiniquy and Jack Chick and those horrible eldritch rites performed by the Knights of Columbus...

Joseph Cannon said...

...and you could also bring up Maria Monk. Alberto Rivera. The "fact" that every single priest who ever lived is a pedophile. The Pope as AntiChrist 666. The Jesuit-controlled Adam Weishaupt...

Guys, you've let me down!

I wrote this piece in the expectation that you would provide me with at least twenty posts filled with sheer brutish, primitive hatred and paranoia. The kind of thing I have come to expect from (sigh) the readership I have built up over the years.

I waved the red flag. Bring on the BULL!

Joseph Cannon said...

One last thing I can't help mentioning (even though no-one is reading at this point): Sunny obviously knows nothing about Bernini and Bruckner. The latter was Austrian, by the way, not Italian. And when I say that his work was the product of his faith -- well, if you doubt that, read about his life, ask someone who knows music, or just listen to the symphonies.

Anonymous said...

Joseph says..
Jimmy Carter has taught Sunday School,

Joseph, for Christ's sake..he also won the Nobel Peace Prize so he is also following in the footsteps of "the Prince of Peace" Himself.
And then there is Martin Luther King, who was a “Captain of Faith”, in his non violence philosophy, and the painful demonstration thereof, who Jimmy Carter described as "the greatest American ever, "perhaps greater than George Washington and Lincoln".
This remark was at the Coretta Scott King funeral in Atlanta where Clinton, Bush Sr., and Jr., spoke.
Let's not even discuss Galileo.. and all the "branded" rebels that both Protestant and Catholic monopolies have singled out because they refused to conform to the hysterical priesthood.
The cries of all the tortured souls are imbedded in the akashic records commonly known as "the book of life" . There the evidence of all crimes (and misdemeanors) are lodged, so that the Arch Accountant can do His inventory..so be carreful what you believe and who you admire..and particularly Why.
Man made religions are just that.man made. The word” religion” means mans interpretation and the organization of same into social groups. Let’s jettison all that crap and dig a deeper well. Are you up for it?

Joseph Cannon said...

What I was saying is that Jimmy Carter is among the laity. And I think he would feel ridiculous being compared to Eckhart or de Chardin.

I think I can still safely say that there is NO intellectual tradition or mystical tradition within the (white) Southern Baptist fellowship. And no good religious art. They've deliberately weeded out the only things of value that religion has ever offered mankind.

And I do think we have to consider King and the African American Baptist tradition separately from the white evangelical churches. Look, when the historians write about this period, they'll be asking which section of the American electorate brought the Bush disaster upon us. And they will point to the white evangelical/fundamentalist/Southern Baptist tradition. Those are the guys who brought Bush to power and kept him there. When all that finger pointing occurs, do you think the leaders of the black churches will jump up and say "Hey, point to us as well! We're part of that tradition! We are allied with the guys who foisted Dubya upon the world!"? No, I think they will be very loathe to be so pigeon-holed.

Joseph Cannon said...

Oh, one last thing. Sunny, this may surprise you. But Catholic reactionaries -- and there are plenty of 'em, and their numbers include a lot of really awful people -- do keep out of politics.

Don't fall on the floor. Hear me out.

We've been taught by generations of conspiracy mongers that the Catholic Church is ever so powerful. Strong and mysterious and spooky and POWERFUL. Just ask Dan Brown.

And the Church traditionally HAS played a strong role in the power structure -- in, say, Quebec.

But this is the U.S.

In this nation, the (and I mean THE) only way any reactionary Catholic cleric can exercise power is by through the use of words. Mere words. A reactionary cleric can advise his parishioners to vote or think a certain way.

And that's it.

Nothing else.

If you don't like it when a priest announces that Catholics should not vote for a candidate who countenances abortion -- well, do as I do and simply do not attend services at a Catholic Church.

You don't like the guys who said "Don't vote for Kerry"? Do as I do and don't attend services at their Church.

You don't like Church teachings on marriage in the priesthood or homosexuality or whatever? Don't attend services at a Catholic Church!

I just don't see the PROBLEM here.

Neither you nor I have any right to tell anyone within the Church to change doctrine. You don't like their wares? Take your business elsewhere.

How does advocacy of positions you don't like translate into POWER in your mind?

Read what I've written more recently about (say) Tim LaHaye and the CNP. Read about Ralph Reed and the Christian Coalition. Read about the mysterious "Family" which plays such an odd role in DC. Read about the Dominionists. Read about the MegaChurches. Read about the controversies concerning using Churches as polling places.

THAT, my friend, is power. Power in this country is Protestant. A generation or two ago, it was concentrated in the mainline Protestant churches. Now, power belongs to the Fundies.

Compared to the Fundies, the Catholic Church has NO power. It has only words, advices, argument, attempts at persuasion -- which you are free to heed or to ignore.

You WANT to believe that it has power -- for reasons which I have already explained in my paragraph on psychological displacement.

Anonymous said...

Opus Dei and The Knights of Malta and who knows what other dark robed secret societies hidden in the bowels of that autonomous state in Rome (who practically own the CIA),are "just laity", but a very very sinister force in geo politics
today. They, to a man, are intensely loyal (ie fanatically), to the Vatican's global ambitions, and behind the scenes power politics.
Don’t forget.
The “off white” on your brush that you are painting catholiscim with, needs to be dipped in crimson..the color of blood, to finish the canvas correctly, since you brought up the art thingy

Joseph Cannon said...

Don't forget? I don't feel obligated to forget or to remember conspira-crap without any foundation.

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Joseph Cannon said...

Let us coin a new term. Conspira-bigotry. No, that lacks euphony. But we need a phrase that conveys the notion...