tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post7224403822454572582..comments2024-03-24T15:27:49.804-04:00Comments on CANNONFIRE: The Ukraine coup -- and beyondJoseph Cannonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10574779960109698980noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-27575667774867655072014-02-23T18:29:20.552-05:002014-02-23T18:29:20.552-05:00Recently told by a friend in South America; the ne...Recently told by a friend in South America; the news is that several days ago Venezuelan death squads were going door to door with lists of names.CBarrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-15522985524821288782014-02-23T17:51:29.046-05:002014-02-23T17:51:29.046-05:00There is a word or two for it all, " Free Tra...There is a word or two for it all, " Free Trade"ZPattenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14459088364985028693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-69697256154283988742014-02-23T17:46:06.459-05:002014-02-23T17:46:06.459-05:00Yes, I do believe that the Nuland/Kagan may indee...Yes, I do believe that the Nuland/Kagan may indeed be undermining Obama's foreign policy, and here's vindication today from Robert Parry from Consortium News:<br /><br />http://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup/<br /><br />Neocons and the Ukraine Coup <br />February 23, 2014 <br /><br />(excerpts)<br /><br />"Exclusive: American neocons helped destabilize Ukraine and engineer the overthrow of its elected government, a “regime change” on Russia’s western border. But the coup – and the neo-Nazi militias at the forefront – also reveal divisions within the Obama administration, reports Robert Parry.<br /><br />By Robert Parry<br /><br />More than five years into his presidency, Barack Obama has failed to take full control over his foreign policy, allowing a bureaucracy shaped by long years of Republican control and spurred on by a neocon-dominated U.S. news media to frustrate many of his efforts to redirect America’s approach to the world in a more peaceful direction.<br /><br />But Obama deserves a big dose of the blame for this predicament because he did little to neutralize the government holdovers and indeed played into their hands with his initial appointments to head the State and Defense departments, Hillary Clinton, a neocon-leaning Democrat, and Robert Gates, a Republican cold warrior, respectively."<br />***<br />"As President, Obama has sought a more cooperative relationship with Russia’s Putin and, generally, a less belligerent approach toward adversarial countries. Obama has been supported by an inner circle at the White House with analytical assistance from some elements of the U.S. intelligence community.<br /><br />But the neocon momentum at the State Department and from other parts of the U.S. government has continued in the direction set by George W. Bush’s neocon administration and by neocon-lite Democrats who surrounded Secretary of State Clinton during Obama’s first term.<br /><br />The two competing currents of geopolitical thinking – a less combative one from the White House and a more aggressive one from the foreign policy bureaucracy – have often worked at cross-purposes."<br /><br />-------------------<br /><br />They are very good at undermining governments all over the world - why not Obama too?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Dojo Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057645566330892415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-70086867804707764522014-02-23T16:53:59.889-05:002014-02-23T16:53:59.889-05:00Joseph, this is way OT, but I am watching Mutiny o...Joseph, this is way OT, but I am watching Mutiny on the Bounty...the Brando version. Just for you man, I am vowing to get through the thing. lol <br /><br />Will let you know what I think, still feel Brando will totally suck, but know that Trevor Howard will kick ass as usual. <br /><br />BTW tonight TCM is showing Pygmalion with Leslie Howard. Damn good movie!<br /><br /> Minkoff Minxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06496977043778893429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-3841524994618553282014-02-23T15:19:21.615-05:002014-02-23T15:19:21.615-05:00"This phenomena needs a name, like the Monroe..."This phenomena needs a name, like the Monroe Doctrine, but specific to this repetitive reality."<br /><br />Neoliberal false flag revolutions?Dave Stocktonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874758966321901913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-84718208692278466372014-02-23T15:05:13.842-05:002014-02-23T15:05:13.842-05:00Nuland?
How old is the Russian Orthodox Church? ...Nuland? <br /><br />How old is the Russian Orthodox Church? That's how long the animus rages in the blood of the<br />Nulands.Ken Hoopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-42950526762868444612014-02-23T08:20:29.436-05:002014-02-23T08:20:29.436-05:00British Foreign Secretary William Hague has threat...British Foreign Secretary William Hague has <a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/23/uk-ukraine-crisis-britain-idUKBREA1L0QK20140223" rel="nofollow">threatened Russia</a>:<br /><br />"<i>If there's an economic package, it will be important that Russia doesn't do anything to undermine that economic package and is working in cooperation and support of it</i>"<br /><br />Or else what?<br /><br />Remember: US warships are only allowed to stay in the Black Sea for 21 days, under the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits" rel="nofollow">Montreux Convention of 1936</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sochi-olympics/u-s-warship-runs-aground-black-sea-n32991" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> what happened to a US warship recently. It was supposed to be going to 'protect' Sochi. Accident?bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-47808686643687104002014-02-23T08:07:36.122-05:002014-02-23T08:07:36.122-05:00I quote your post from Paul Craig Roberts'
&q...I quote your post from Paul Craig Roberts'<br /><br />"Nuland boasted that Washington has spent $5 billion to foment agitation to bring Ukraine into the EU."<br /><br />And dojo rat;<br /><br />"Her husband is neo-con Robert Kagan, one of the main founders of "The Project For A New American Century". His Brother is Fred Kagan, who has helped set policy in Iraq and Afghanistan.<br />...<br />The Nuland/Kagan cabal is the new version of the Dulles brothers and I believe they are working to undermine Obama's foreign policy."<br /><br />So two years into his second term Obama doesn't have control over his administration. Really? <br /><br />This whole situation mirrors the CIA sponsored coup of Tehran 1953. That worked out so well for us in the end, didn't it? And most Americans have no idea what really occurred. Mohammad Mosaddegh is not Vladmir Putin.<br /><br />Seems that George Orwell's writings, though intended as a warning, have become a blueprint for neofascism.CBarrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-68546662167760992172014-02-23T05:05:40.034-05:002014-02-23T05:05:40.034-05:00The criticism of the US government for acting '...The criticism of the US government for acting 'illegally' can be so wishy-washy. It's not "illegal" to implement "economic" measures to pressure a foreign government to step down. But so what? International law is just a mass of pacts between gangs of robbers.<br /><br />Similarly many lefties talk about 'illegal settlements' on the West Bank, as if Zionist actions on territories conquered before 1967 are OK.<br /><br />By all means expose the hypocrisy of western governments, but...sheesh!bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-38968455064782886922014-02-23T00:39:55.026-05:002014-02-23T00:39:55.026-05:00You wrote..."The embattled leader is no hero....You wrote..."The embattled leader is no hero. Nobody is arguing that. What worries me is that his overthrow will probably open the way for something even worse". <br /><br />This phenomena needs a name, like the Monroe Doctrine, but specific to this repetitive reality.Alessandro Machihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-37164973306071335672014-02-22T22:05:19.564-05:002014-02-22T22:05:19.564-05:00Joseph, this is from Dimitri Orlov for whom I have...Joseph, this is from Dimitri Orlov for whom I have respect. It is written by a Russian speaking Ukrianian and translated by Dimitri. It is one side of the story but perhaps will give the reader a clearer view than our MSM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com