tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post5318978776226693529..comments2024-03-24T15:27:49.804-04:00Comments on CANNONFIRE: "This is huge news": Facebook and the Mueller probe. Plus: A comedian's brilliant response to the Cult of BernieJoseph Cannonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10574779960109698980noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-3354023617198797472017-09-17T18:33:06.355-04:002017-09-17T18:33:06.355-04:00Thank YOU nem. I hope that Kirkman won't be an...Thank YOU nem. I hope that Kirkman won't be angry with me if she sees what I've done. I've actually done some professional editing, and I know that there is a fine line between editing and rewriting -- and that I have a bad habit of crossing that line. But some of her tweets were obviously written in anger, or at least in a state of high emotion, so they needed tweaking in order to make basic sense. <br /><br />At this point, we can't know how much of what hit us was Russian in origin. There are some cases where the Russian origin of the online propaganda is obvious, thanks to the insecure English and the unbridled hatred of America. But other instances are less clear. For example, the original Pizzagate stories -- the ones published before the election -- are written convincingly and were probably composed by an American. Joseph Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10574779960109698980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-16003836957045886592017-09-17T18:24:58.569-04:002017-09-17T18:24:58.569-04:00Vincent Tchenguiz, the reported owner of Cambridge...Vincent Tchenguiz, the reported owner of Cambridge Analytica, was waist-deep in the Icelandic banking scandal. It's an important point because Trump's mid-2000s developer partner, Bayrock, was too. And there is evidence that pre-crisis Icelandic banks were money laundries for Russia. <br /><br />I think we have every right to be deeply suspicious of Tchenguiz. <br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/vincent-tchenguiz-loses-legal-claim-he-was-victim-of-a-conspirac/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-19958166992981905282017-09-17T14:54:03.458-04:002017-09-17T14:54:03.458-04:00Glad I could help!
As Hillary says in her book an...Glad I could help!<br /><br />As Hillary says in her book and on her book tour, she doesn't believe there wasn't somebody in America to help the Russians weaponize their hacks. It was too sophisticated for it to be handled by foreigners. While Russia is the catalyst, there's no way their operation could work without help from Americans, both on a micro level in that some individuals helped them with the disruption campaign and on a macro level in that our country is so divided and has so many fault lines.<br /><br />FYI, Jen Kirkman has stated she will add to her tweetstorm as she sees fit.<br /><br />Of course, Bernie goes on Meet the Press to talk about Medicare-for-all when Obamacare is on life support...nemdamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-91513297270374640052017-09-17T14:40:56.196-04:002017-09-17T14:40:56.196-04:00I agree. This is best looked at as a joint venture...I agree. This is best looked at as a joint venture, with several partners involved for differing reasons but with a commonality of near-term goals.<br /><br />Who had the lead role, like the slightly different question of who had the key operational role, may perhaps be unknowable without confessions. <br /><br />I wouldn't discount the role of the Christian Dominionist movement with its billionaire supporters and cadres in the military academies and among some top brass. (Mercers, cough.) <br /><br />Joseph often mentions the likely participation of some in the IC, which seems correct. However, and this goes under the radar, what about the MSM? Surprisingly, given the apparent establishment credentials of Hillary Clinton, some of the flagship allegedly liberal papers like the NYT and WaPost have had an abiding animus toward her (and Bill, earlier). And the networks join in. What establishment do they threaten, and if they do, as it appears, how many onion layers need to be peeled back to find it? <br /><br />And by 'it, do I mean a small Middle Eastern country? No, you didn't hear that from me. <br /><br />XI<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-2714602002208981742017-09-17T13:26:03.213-04:002017-09-17T13:26:03.213-04:00Marcy Wheeler (emptywheel.net) argues that Mueller...Marcy Wheeler (emptywheel.net) argues that Mueller may not have obtained a search warrant because he didn't need one to get the Facebook info details. She says WSJ and CNN only inferred that Mueller obtained a warrant, which contradicts Mariotti's claim that CNN reported that he obtained a warrant (I have no first-hand idea what CNN reported).Amelie D'bunquerrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-13657826794295850982017-09-17T10:09:03.656-04:002017-09-17T10:09:03.656-04:00@Alessandro Machi I believe that while the Russian...@Alessandro Machi I believe that while the Russians are bad actors and are involved, this coup was initiated right here in the good old US of A, who outsourced the dirty deeds to Russia. As it is a mistake to consider Trump a cause rather than a symptom, it's dangerous to lay all blame on Russia. Both tendencies obfuscate the currents that run through people and orgs here who have wanted to destroy democracy and people since country was founded.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141640791663745884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-83428435083241642232017-09-16T23:58:21.130-04:002017-09-16T23:58:21.130-04:00Elisabeth Warren needs to see this post!Elisabeth Warren needs to see this post!Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13013294520526152400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-77121393204815661682017-09-16T23:54:52.527-04:002017-09-16T23:54:52.527-04:00There could be a strange twist to all of this wher...There could be a strange twist to all of this where Russia is exonerated as being the actual leaker and instead it's Sander's supporters inside the Hillary Clinton campaign who did the leaking. So the power to brainwash may have been Russian funded, but the actual acts of leaking could have been done by brainwashed Sander's supporters, technically leaving Russia off the hook, except for those nasty bots.Alessandro Machihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-73870735536911704652017-09-16T23:21:25.098-04:002017-09-16T23:21:25.098-04:00Great post, Joseph. And yes, it does look like th...Great post, Joseph. And yes, it does look like the search warrant for Facebook content really is going to be a big deal. And while I do not step into the conspiracy theory swamp, Kirkman's tweet have made me seriously question just what the hell Bernie and company really knew about Russian interference in the election. <br /><br />And never forget that many of the "Bernie Bros" like H.A. Goodman have always poo-poohed the Trump/Russia scandal, calling it a nothingburger and running to the Seth Rich story as proof that the whole thing was really a plot by the DNC and Hillary.<br /><br />Jesus wept.Marc McKenziehttp://redshoulder.deviantart.com/gallery/noreply@blogger.com