tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post4190053572840072452..comments2024-03-24T15:27:49.804-04:00Comments on CANNONFIRE: THAT dossier: Follow-upJoseph Cannonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10574779960109698980noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-77588705554846731892017-01-13T18:39:00.387-05:002017-01-13T18:39:00.387-05:00Joe, just in case you hadn't seen it, you migh...Joe, just in case you hadn't seen it, you might find this interesting as well:<br /><br />https://medium.com/startup-grind/evaluating-the-buzzfeed-dossier-by-a-former-intelligence-analyst-53d9611f1657#.pbqun3t7gHoarsefacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-43534848350055693262017-01-13T18:34:21.030-05:002017-01-13T18:34:21.030-05:00"Wonderful how all you Democratic Party cheer...<i>"Wonderful how all you Democratic Party cheerleaders the CIA."</i><br /><br />English isn't your first language, COMRADE?<br /><br />****************************<br /><br />I remember when Disgusting Sex Practices opened for Slayer on that tour some time last decade. DSP RULED! Too bad the drummer choked to death on someone else's vomit--oh wait, that was Spinal Tap.Ivory Bill Woodpeckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01318699512583970467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-56505620722540305002017-01-13T17:54:01.351-05:002017-01-13T17:54:01.351-05:00"The Mind of Adolf Hitler" is a good rea..."The Mind of Adolf Hitler" is a good read. I got the hardback copy when it first came out. It and Chris Albertson's "Bessie," about Bessie Smith, were the first two books I bought as an adult. <br /><br />I still have both books. They are in storage.<br /><br />OTE adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09259422705314063194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-68677155900425039542017-01-13T17:35:15.995-05:002017-01-13T17:35:15.995-05:00Amelie, I never thought about the 1972 release of ...Amelie, I never thought about the 1972 release of Langer's book in those terms before. Fascinating theory.<br /><br />I recall seeing the book -- it was released as a mass-market paperback -- at a grocery store, where I read much of it. It kind of jumped out at you. Later, I found it at a library. (Even then, I was always looking for a way to get books without paying.)<br /><br />The Langer book made a marked impression on me precisely because of the defecation claim. Previously, I had no idea that this kind of perversion even existed. <br /><br />Of course, I was quite young then. Joseph Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10574779960109698980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-26791095927787190402017-01-13T15:48:42.875-05:002017-01-13T15:48:42.875-05:00The prostitutes material serves three primary func...The prostitutes material serves three primary functions: to get a lot of people interested, to determine if high-placed people are still susceptible to loathing and disgust, and to provide false (or unverifiable) red meat so the rest loses credibility.<br /><br />A footnote to the Langer book, The Mind Of Adolf Hitler: Surely it was published to influence the 1972 election. McGovern recommended it in front of TV cameras and microphones, primarily because Langer's report of Hitler's psychology and mind unsurprisingly implied very close similarities with Nixon's psychology, mind, and behaviors. Of course, as Gore Vidal has pointed out, only five percent of the public read books (Chris Matthews being among the 95 percent). Langer explains in the book that the psychological profile of Hitler was his idea, which the OSS followed up on (plus he notes that it represents the first such 'psychological profile' that became an ordinary undertaking by the OSS's offspring CIA). He explains the profile's purpose, that it would help the allies predict Hitler's behavior in light of this or that event. The logical extrapolation of that predictability would be to stage events that would produce desirable outcomes, in a word, disinformation. Coincidentally, Nixon's Plumbers burglarized Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office in part to supplement Nixon's psychological profile of Ellsberg.<br /><br />The FISA Court's denial. Hmm. The public revelation could be spooky disinformation despite its being true (or "true"). It would signal the (ahem) fact (or "fact") that a President's powers are limited (or appear to be). So, it may have been a sandbagging in the first place.<br /><br />It would not surprise me to learn that Executive Branch parties have proffered to Trump's parties that, if Trump falls on his sword now and rides off into the sunset, Pence will pardon him in the way Ford (an unelected POTUS) pardoned Nixon, the once and future criminal.Amelie D'bunquerrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-18133958051185779612017-01-13T14:34:45.903-05:002017-01-13T14:34:45.903-05:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Epshteyn SOUR...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Epshteyn SOURCE EAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-42598802537852445622017-01-13T13:47:26.234-05:002017-01-13T13:47:26.234-05:00Stephen, I used to revere Taibbi. He has turned in...Stephen, I used to revere Taibbi. He has turned into a Putin-loving piece of crap. I'm going to write a post about him soon -- it has been in the planning for a while. <br /><br />Again, I think Phil Giraldi has it right: A private intelligence firm is not going to lie to its well-paying clients. That's not the way to stay in business.<br /><br />Anyone talking as though this dossier was prepared for propaganda purposes doesn't know what he or she is talking about. Like all oppo research, it was prepared for internal use and was not meant to get out into the public eye.<br /><br />Marc: You put it PERFECTLY. <br /><br />Joseph Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10574779960109698980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-68185310609130923952017-01-13T13:39:03.945-05:002017-01-13T13:39:03.945-05:00Good points, Joseph.
You are right--forget the &q...Good points, Joseph.<br /><br />You are right--forget the "golden showers'; that's not the real meat of the issue. That's just the part of the iceberg that's poking above the surface. It's what's below that really matters.<br /><br />The media, of course, care only about the sex. The fact that they had access to this--and yet chose to ignore it and reports by Corn and Eichenwald to concentrate on the fucking emails is media negligence of the highest order. The fact that they were just fine putting out unverified crap from Wikileaks and Assange and are now clenching their anuses claiming that they can't touch the dossier because it's "unverified" is hypocrisy on a level I've never seen before.<br /><br />Trump's business dealings are the issue--why else has he not released his taxes? He chose to attack the IC and suck up to Putin--did he really think he could get away with it?<br /><br />Oh, and I don't know if you've seen this tidbit...but it confirms that you were right about Jill Stein and the Bernie-Bros: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/13/how-putin-played-the-far-left.html<br />Marc McKenziehttp://redshoulder.deviantart.com/gallery/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-78448888005384191902017-01-13T13:18:21.594-05:002017-01-13T13:18:21.594-05:00It's always the extremists who seem to get cau...It's always the extremists who seem to get caught doing exactly what they rail against. Homophobes get caught in same-sex liaisons - evangelicals get caught with sex workers, etc. tRump is always railing about how "disgusting" certain people are. He said John Kasich ate in a "disgusting" way and his sweat was disgusting. I can easily imagine him to be obsessed with bodily functions. <br /><br />http://religiondispatches.org/forget-nasty-trumps-got-a-disgusting-problem/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06774646289560208358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-1668093864988065512017-01-13T10:26:34.476-05:002017-01-13T10:26:34.476-05:00The Daily Telegraph:
"Murkiness is the hallm...The <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/12/donald-trump-dossier-president-elect-says-intelligence-director/" rel="nofollow">Daily Telegraph</a>:<br /><br />"<i>Murkiness is the hallmark of all spy stories, and Mr Steeleās is no different in that respect. His route to MI6 was straightforward enough; after growing up in solidly middle-class Wokingham, Berkshire, he went to Cambridge where, in 1986, he served a term as president of the Cambridge Union debating society.<br /><br />Coincidentally, <b>his opposite number at the Oxford Union in the same term was Boris Johnson, now Foreign Secretary and the minister responsible for MI6</b>.</i>"<br /><br />Hahaha! What a non sequitur!! So one guy was head of a debating society at Cambridge while another guy was head of a debating society at Oxford. Both positions are highly coveted, but what's the connection?<br /><br /><b>Is someone preparing for Johnson's exposure as a Russian agent?</b> It's possible.<br /><br /><b>Recap</b><br />Boris Johnson, the Old Etonian thug, former Bullingdon Clubber and London mayor who is a citizen of both the US and Britain, who has twice been sacked for dishonesty, and who is widely known to sail by the seat of his pants, was appointed as foreign secretary in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit result. Until that very morning, it was believed by many that he would seek to become the next leader of the Tory party, and therefore the next prime minister; and many were surprised when he announced that he wouldn't stand.<br /><br />Did someone have something on him?<br /><br />Which isn't to say he hasn't got clout. He was the first person for about 150 years to be appointed as British Foreign Secretary while having literally ZERO experience in national government, in shadowing national government while in opposition, or in foreign affairs. And such a completely inexperienced man was appointed as foreign secretary at a time when Britain prepares to negotiate the terms of its withdrawal from the EU!<br /><br />I would say it's unlikely that Johnson will leave office except in connection with a scandal. Let's face it: the ~KGB has very probably been helping UKIP and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they've got a hand up Johnson's arse too.<br /><br />During the Brexit campaign, Johnson was called an "apologist for Putin" by some of his fellow right-wingers (e.g. <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3581363/Boris-Johnson-blasted-apologist-President-Putin-No-10-Jack-Straw-slam-claim-EU-blame-starting-war-Ukraine.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>), but that criticism got shelved almost as soon as it got aired. (Tories may fight each other, but like lumps of shit they stick together.)bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-12253861761256400502017-01-13T10:19:21.502-05:002017-01-13T10:19:21.502-05:00Joseph
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgr...Joseph<br /><br />http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/01/13/the-trump-dossier-is-false-news-and-heres-why/#60d38ccd55f1<br /><br /><br /><br />another opiniongerry-trollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-86802153709551272017-01-13T09:43:52.604-05:002017-01-13T09:43:52.604-05:00Wonderful how all you Democratic Party cheerleader...Wonderful how all you Democratic Party cheerleaders the CIA. As if US intelligence agencies would never, ever lie to the American people! Get over it. Your girl ran a crap campaign and lost. Ever think there's a danger here of a deep state coup? Of course not!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-6052718058110023822017-01-13T09:34:44.058-05:002017-01-13T09:34:44.058-05:00Orbis are an intelligence agency. They are an orga...Orbis are an intelligence agency. They are an organisation, staffed by "former" spies, funded in this case by politicans and similar. At most, it's a distinction without a difference. <br /><br />As for the ultimate source of the information, all we can say is that Orbis claims the ultimate source of the information isn't Orbis. Spies are professional liars.<br /><br />Taibbi has written an article about it all, I see.Stephen Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11310986776169327671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-68628347530565992582017-01-13T09:00:10.202-05:002017-01-13T09:00:10.202-05:00Disinformation can be mostly or even wholly true, ...Disinformation can be mostly or even wholly true, in which case the arrangement and selection are the thing. But there must be an intent to mislead. Exploring this avenue, the first answer that comes to mind to the question "which intelligence agency?" is MI6. There would be little point in discussing the meaning of the word "adversarial". Elements in MI6 could certainly attempt to mislead elements in the CIA where humint is concerned, using disinformation.<br /><br />Who did the redaction?bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6604414.post-1263130339971801262017-01-13T08:43:49.563-05:002017-01-13T08:43:49.563-05:00"Was it treasonous for Trump to pass intel to..."<i>Was it treasonous for Trump to pass intel to the leader of Russia? Not in this instance, because the intel was about the wheelings and dealings of Russian citizens.</i>"<br /><br />Sure, but then there is FARA, the Foreign Agents Registration Act.<br /><br />Furnishing information to a foreign power, on its request, about any partnership or other combination of individuals having its main place of business outside the US comes under <a href="https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title22/pdf/USCODE-2009-title22-chap11-subchapII.pdf" rel="nofollow">paragraph 611(i)</a> and requires registration.<br /><br />bnoreply@blogger.com