Saturday, January 12, 2013

RFK Jr. on the murder of his uncle

Alex Jones' outrageous recent behavior on the Piers Morgan show has prompted me to make a belated New Year's resolution: I shall do everything I can to make sure people differentiate legitimate research into JFK's assassination from the nonsense promulgated by conspira-freaks like Jones. One of the reasons why I insist that "the JFK thing" is not just another paranoid theory is the fact that quite a few important figures have always doubted the findings of the Warren Commission. The doubters have included the accused assassin's widow, Lee Harvey Oswald's mother, Lyndon Johnson (who convened the Commission), Commission member Richard Russell...

...and the victim's brother, Robert F. Kennedy.

Anyone who doubts that last point should consult this recent interview with RFK Jr.:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said his father spent a year trying to come to grips with his brother's death, reading the work of Greek philosophers, Catholic scholars, Henry David Thoreau, poets and others "trying to figure out kind of the existential implications of why a just God would allow injustice to happen of the magnitude he was seeing."

He said his father thought the Warren Commission, which concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing the president, was a "shoddy piece of craftsmanship." He said that he, too, questioned the report.

"The evidence at this point I think is very, very convincing that it was not a lone gunman," he said, but he didn't say what he believed may have happened.

Rose asked if he believed his father, the U.S. attorney general at the time of his brother's death, felt "some sense of guilt because he thought there might have been a link between his very aggressive efforts against organized crime."

Kennedy replied: "I think that's true. He talked about that. He publicly supported the Warren Commission report but privately he was dismissive of it."

He said his father had investigators do research into the assassination and found that phone records of Oswald and nightclub owner Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald two days after the president's assassination, "were like an inventory" of mafia leaders the government had been investigating.
Not mentioned in this story is one key fact: According to RFK campaign aide Richard Lubic, RFK had privately told his supporters "Subject to me getting elected, I would like to reopen the Warren Commission."

By the way: National Geographic is making a telefilm out of Bill O'Reilly's awful book Killing Kennedy, reviewed in a previous post. Among its many other flaws, this book disingenuously ignores all of the research materials (documents, interviews and so forth) which have come out since 1964. I don't support any call to stop this production -- why give Bill O'Reilly an excuse to claim the "matyrella" position? -- but I do think there should be time allotted for the presentation of an alternative view.
Comments:
Joseph; You can't discuss RFK's assassination without discussing Sirhan Bishara Sirhan.

Then you are back in the tall weeds, n'cest pa?

Ben
 
Well, I was not discussing that assassination. Not in this post.

I have done so in the past.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/11/assassinations.html

As far as I know, no-one has followed up on that lead.
 
Just sayin'...

There's a lot of shit wrt JFK which could be labeled as crazy, too.

Ben
 
Oh, Ben, you are so very right. I used to have a whole drawer filled with really crazy JFK stuff, starting with Revilo Oliver's nutty "Marxmanship in Dallas."

At one time, I thought that stuff was funny.
 
JFK and RFK seem to have been killed by a group of Anti-Communists and Catholics clustered around the George de Mohrenschildt, Ruth Paine, the FBI, Guy Banister and Cardinal Spellman with links to CIA.

Bill O'Lielly is Catholic. National Geographic is run by John M. Fahey Jr. Another Catholic(who used N.G. to run a 9/11 hit piece on truthers). The Italian mobsters around Oswald were Catholic. The CIA agents accused of playing a part in these murders were mostly Catholic. Cuban Alpha 66 was Catholic. And the Kennedy's were Catholic. The Vatican has been very Anti-Communist over the years(Pope John Paul II from Poland was a big Anti-Communist supporter).

But the key to understanding who killed JFK is very, very simple.. Just look at who positioned him to play the role of a patsy(if you accept he is one). The two biggest players here would be George de Mohrenschildt and Ruth Paine. Two things they both have in common : Russian and wealth. George is a Russian exile. An anti-communist. Czarist.. His wealthy family exiled to Poland by the Bolsheviks. He is a white Russian exile in Texas. Has ties to oil and Bush(another protector of wealth over nation..Nazi collaborating family). Ruth Paine, is also hooked into the Russian community and tied to wealthy families and wealth protecting CIA.

After leading Oswald around for a bit, he is blamed for killing JFK who they feared would give everyone's wealth away to poor people. (Bill O'Leilly is singing this same song and dance on Fox News to this very day... pays better than JFK research)

Would a corporate cabal of fiscal and religious conservatives kill their own president to protect their own interests?

Duh.

Where has everyone's money gone since 9/11?

Duh.

And yes, Lincoln was killed by Catholics, and Confederates holding secret meetings in Mary Surrat's house. It was the same issue in the 1860s, as in the 1960s as today.. some people believe all wealth is the divine right to be hoarded at the top and would go as far as treason to achieve it.

Speaking of shootings, Seng Hui Cho.. the guy from Korea who shot up Virginia Tech.. was his father an Anti-Communist? Maybe a Reverend Sun Myung Moon style Anti-Communist? (Moon's South Korea is an Anti-Commie hotbed)

If Moon hadn't died a comfy death recently, after telling Americans for years how much they sucked and how he wanted to see America destroyed... while at the same time leading Nazi collaborating Bush family members around to his "I am God" parties... maybe Americans could of gathered up enough spine to ask just what the fuck this old KCIA spook was up to in America all of these years and what he knew about certain odd events like 9/11? (Some of the hijackers had been in the same orbits Moon had been in... Jerry Falwell, Wally Hilliard, Falls Church Virginia area).

But that ship has sailed I guess...

So let's spend another 40 years shuffling around the evidence pretending we can't draw any connections and conclusions about what is really going on in America?

 
Anonymous, you are insane. And you're not welcome around here.

The only reason I printed your bigoted, evidence-free garbage is that I wanted to draw attention to the "Catholics killed Lincoln" canard. I am sure you drew that one from dear old Pastor Chiniquy, whom I know well -- in fact, I once went through all sorts of original documentation connected with the man.

He was, of course, a complete fantasist.

I wrote a lengthy piece on his book, "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome" -- but I've never published it. I just don't think there are many people who would be interested.

On the other hand, if your madness caught on...I might have to.

Anyways, you should go back to reading Jack Chick comics. This blog is for REAL research.
 
Uhhh, the-ththis's George Dubya Bbbush, sayin' jes' leave mah daddy out of all this here kinda stuff. It hurts mah brain, or what
s left of't after all that coke I took when I flew that jet fighter and crashed it I have no idea where."

Look people, seriously, go to the one site that the CIA's news media assets have been attacking for over 20 years now: www.jfkmurdersolved.com and read all the way through it. Look at all the youtube-like film presentations under "Lee and Frank," and see them together near Lake Ponchartrain north of New Orleans. Lee is trying to sell Frank Sturgiss (of later Watergate fame) a large pistol gun.

Lee was CIA, but reporting to Hoover's FBI office in New Orleans, the locations of the CIA anti-Castro Cuban exile training camps. Sturgis and others there with Operation 40, discovered that Ozzy was snitching on them. then got in contact with the guy who owned the Texas School Book Depository, D.H. Byrd, and through Oswald's Dallas buddy, DeMorhenschildt, got Oswald the TSBD job.

Hoover had been punked in a CIA tape recording of a conference call between Nelson Rockefeller, George H. W. Bush, LBJ, and a guy named Mosbacher when Bush told Hoover that they were going to eliminate his "main communist threat," Hoover seemed to know who they were talking about.

Rodney Stich's book, Defrauding America, talks about the "Pegasus"
CIA phone bug on Hoover's phone line, placed there to try to discover if Hoover had any homosexual type discussions with his "lovers." They wanted to set him up to go along with the JFK murder cover-up they knew they would need if they paid the mob thugs and CIA soldiers of pay per play "soldiers of fortune" to carry out their treasonous plot.

Bush knew Ted Schackley who knew David Sanchez Moreales who knew Hunt. Oswald knew all these people also, but thought he was working for an honest FBI. Hoover was only protecting his a$$ when he went along with it. Oswald was set up by the FBI to take the blame while his TSBD job was secured by George DeMorhenschildt. Ruthie P. lied when she said she did not know Oswald had a gun hidden in her garage.

Her green Rambler stationwagon was photographed in Dealey Plaza on Elm street about 20 minutres after the shooting. After going to
www.jfkmurdersolved.com, go to YouTube This IS The Man Who Shot President Kennedy. The Moorman Polaroid photo shows the man, and so does www.jfkmurdersolved.com.
 
I let this crummy comment go through to illustrate why I'm now thinking that I probably will not publish any further JFK-related material.

If THIS is the caliber of discussion one can expect, then forget it. There is no point in talking about this topic.

That site you reference, Anonymous -- and by the way, I'm going to start enforcing the "no anonymous comments" rule -- is filled with garbage. James Files was exposd as a hoaxer by Gary Aguilar ages ago. (No doubt you'll now be calling Gary "CIA," which is absurd. Such accusations are the first refuge of the conspira-scoundrel.) I'm pretty sure that Judy Baker cribbed her fantasy from listening to internet broadcasts of Dave Emory's interviews with Ed Haslam; she has, undeniably, changed her story many times. Jim Marrs went off into Looneyland ages ago.

This whole case has become encrusted with such a thick shell of horseshit that I'm now wondering if there is any point in talking about it further.
 
Just ignore them Mr Cannon (as hard as this may be). Your stuff always gets my synapses firing
 
"Just ignore them Mr Cannon (as hard as this may be). Your stuff always gets my synapses firing"

Mine too. Why shouldn't everyone benefit?

Thoughts, unexplored, are not authentic thoughts.

Ben
 
Keep the faith, Joe. To the list of high-profile deniers that ranges from O'Reilly on the right to Chris Matthews on left we must sadly add Tom Hanks. The nicest, squishiest Dem in Hollywood is producing the "Killing Kennedy" TV show and a feature film excerpt from Vincent Bugiolsi's "Reclaiming History" called "Parkland." I hope that in my professional capacity I will get enlighten Tom about Bugliosi's many errors and crimes. In the meantime, there will be many other JFK-related battles to fight in this anniversary year, and I am counting on you to join and inspire us. This is the most important truth-telling mission of my lifetime, and I won't give up when the flak flies.
 
Joe, with the posthumous assassination of JFK by corporate media swinging back into high gear this year, I hope you keep posting about the event itself, its genesis and likely perpetrators, and the the enduring, disastrous legacy the political assassinations of the 60's precipitated.

What I find most discouraging about the RFK Jr interview is the focus on the Mafia. The Mafia didn't get Oswald hired by the TSBD, didn't set up a whitewash commission dominated by Allen Dulles, didn't alter autopsy photos. It wasn't some Mafiosi who ordered the autopsy doctors not to probe JFK's back wound.

But Charlie Rose can't mention - per Dr. Pierre Finck's testimony at the Clay Shaw trial - that a general was in charge of the autopsy. He can't ask RFK Jr. about his father's autopsy, which utterly contradicts the notion that the fatal shots were fired by Sirhan.

Certain people viewed the Kennedys as being potentially much worse than the class traitor Roosevelt. A political dynasty of three intelligent, telegenic, liberal brothers scared the shit out of them. They had to be stopped.
 
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