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Friday, December 30, 2011

Americans Elect: The Rothschild factor

I'm still not sure what to make of this Americans Elect thing.

So far, the group is not on the radar of most citizens. Yet the movers and shakers who made AE come into being are seriously rich and seriously spooked up. After our previous post on this topic, a reader contributed the following:
Americans Elect is run by Lynn Forester de Rothschild. They have already picked Huntsman as their candidate, go to Irregular Times, they have a whole bunch of articles.
As some of you may have noticed, I now link to IT, even though they're trying to drum up enthusiasm for Obama's re-election, while I'd rather vote for Huckleberry Hound. (Come to think of it, they're both blue dogs...)

IT has indeed been looking into the Rothschild connection. Don't misunderstand: I'm not one of those conspiracy nuts who goes into rage-gasm every time he sees the Rothschild name. But let's face it -- even among the one percenters, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild is, at the very least, a ten percenter. Her idea of a grassroots movement would be Occupy Tiffany's.

This story from 2007 pegs her as a big supporter of Hillary Clinton -- and yet for some reason, I can't bring myself to like her. Why? Oh, I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that she has been known to say stuff like this:
Back when John [TV/wireless mogul and gagillionaire Kluge] sold to Southwest Bell I said "Boy, you know, I want a net worth of $40 million. Because I just thought that was more money than I could ever imagine. I thought I would die and go to heaven if I ever had $40 million. And John gave me the best advice I've ever gotten in one sentence. He said, "Stop. Don't think at all about the net worth you're creating. Think about your vision for what you're creating, and that you wake up every day and you love it. The money will follow." And it was sort of so profound, and this rush came over me of "Oh my God, of course," and then I just went on from there. And that made a huge difference to me.
Ponder those words while you stock the shelves at WallyWorld. Y'know why you're stuck in that job? You just don't have the right attitude. So change your mind-set. Chuck your job, stop paying the rent and do what you love. Very soon, forty million smackers will fall from the heavens right into your outstretched hands -- because this is America, goddammit, and getting your mitts around that kind of cash has nothing to do with being named Rothschild or marrying British nobility. Really, it's all a matter of positive thinking.

Don't you just hate people like that?

As Barbara Ehrenreich documents, affluent positive thinkers have pretty much ruined the world. I swear, there are moments when I think that Citoyen Robespierre may have had the right idea...

What freaks me out is the strong pro-Hillary vibe emanating from AE-land. That ought to be a point in their favor, what with my pro-Clinton history and all. But...well, in the first place, Hillary won't run. Just won't happen. In the second place, if Lady Lynn's writings give us any indication as to what to expect from a Hillary administration, then perhaps the time has come to regroup and reconsider.

Here's Lynn:
In an environment of unprecedented political gridlock in Washington and broad-based dissatisfaction with the leading candidates of both parties, 2012 may finally be the year when an independent candidate becomes president of the United States. For the first time in our nation's history, popular dissatisfaction with both parties is reinforced by the existence of serious bipartisan organizations that will facilitate the effort of a non-aligned national figure to become president. Because of these two factors, the opportunity to mobilize what Tom Friedman calls "the radical center" has never been greater. Indeed, "some revelation is at hand".
Oy. If her idea of a wise old bird is Tom Freakin' Friedman, count me out. I don't want any more of that Wall-Street-enabling, job-outsourcing, America-destroying "world is flat" shit. Lynn's millions wouldn't bug me at all if her reference points went to Ha-Joon Chang or Joseph Stiglitz -- but Tom "free trade" Friedman? No way.

I want a New Deal revival, not New Age claptrap.

The problem isn't that both parties are radicalized. The problem is that the Republicans are ultra-radicalized (Ron Paul and Rick Perry have even flirted with the idea of secession, fer chrissakes!), while the Dems -- well, too many Dems, starting with our current president -- are ultra-wimpified. Lots of Dems have already bought into this "world is flat" mindset. Extreme? Hell, they hardly even count as an alternative.

If Lynn can't see so obvious a fact, then let's not pretend that she has any kind of a solution to offer. She may claim to be above partisan bickering, but she still represents the Reaganite Old Deal.

Has Hillary really climbed into bed (metaphorically speaking) with Lady Lynn de Lucre? Yeesh. What a depressing image. It was a lot more pleasant to think about Huma.
I came across IT a few months ago and these guys do a great job at exposing the dark side of this Obama busting AE thingy. Indeed, that's some AE Whos-Who board member list.

Speaking of dark sides, unfortunately it looks like Hillary's been camping out over there for sometime. But I'm not so sure she doesn't have WH aspirations, Joe. Although perhaps her main aspiration is getting Obama out in 2012 hence the AE ties? Maybe Wall Street's has decided it wants another Republican at the wheel?

AE smells bad and spells trouble. Sign of the times? This former "Independent" voter has now contributed to the Obama campaign...

Keep an eye on IT, good site.
I just did a review of Ides of March from a Foucault frame which it illuminates.

Hilary's not gonna run. Obama is probably going to get back in because there's no one on the other side who looks at all promising. No competition.

A pity.
Funny thing, Slacker. I was at the Americans Elect and found Hillary's presence way below that of many other political figures. She was on page 5 while your hero, Obama, was on page 1 second only to Ron Paul (R-Kook).

So my question to you is why a donation to Obama?

Seems he's getting more love than Hillary from the AE crowd.
Mike: Interesting. Any way I can talk you into favoring us with a link or two?
Sure thing. I also emailed you at your yahoo account.
Hey Joe, I know it would take a tad longer, but whenever you dislike someone like a Thom Friedman, can you link to a prior article you have written or some source that allows us to understand your distaste?

I saw Friedman on TV recently and some of what he said seemed right on to me. I did say "some".

I heard once that many people consider "old" 15 years older than their present age. In terms of wealth, it's all relative, so I'm not so sure I should feel class envy towards someone who probably was born into wealth and wants to maintain it.

However, when it comes to debt restructuring requires a person being placed into credit default, that I do get upset with.
Sandro: Ha-Joon Chang's "Bad Samaritans" -- which I revere -- is written in response to Friedman.

If you can't get it, let me know.
Actually do what you love and the money will follow is a serious thing to say. Unfortunately it has become a ready=made phrase, that, when reproduced just comes across as a simulacrum. A copy of a copy without an original.

Think Ayn Rand, coming here at 21 staying a few months with relatives in chicago wh has nothing in common with, and then going to Hollywood where she gets noticed at the gates of DeMille's studio the first or second day and he takes her in, listens to her, gives her a job. she screenwrites, lives in a women's building in Hollywood, has met her husband on that first or second day, and begins to read and write, learning English. And on and on just like one of her heros.

It's sort of like the lottery. It happens to few but gives millions of others a fantasy that they could too. But they will have to distance themselves from the masses and mass thinking, as Nietzsche tells us to do.

David Foster Wallace has written an insightful essay on LBJ that brings all this up and questions social programs. Instrument Affirmative Action and you get Clarence Thomas - who does want to do away with it even tho he benefitted - and Obama. Would we had never had either and that they were well......doing something else besides adding to our misery.
My first read was your Americans Elect piece. I don't know what to make of it either, but I am intrigued by any effort to return the voting to the people.
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