Tuesday, December 07, 2010

And so forth

A few random items worth mentioning:

1. Shoot! This YouTube video contains a segment from Sarah Palin's reality series in which she shoots a caribou under the tutelage of her father. Those who know about such things say that this video proves that Sarah Palin -- despite her claims -- is no hunter. See here.

I don't hunt. But I'm a carnivore, and I have no issues with hunters who act responsibly. In this instance, I was rooting for the caribou.

2. The deficit. Many nations now face deficit problems, thanks to the Wall Street deregulation debacle. Joseph Stiglitz tell us how to combat the problem. He sets out the context of the problem:
-- a massive increase in defense expenditures, fueled by two fruitless wars, but going well beyond that;

-- growth in inequality, with the top 1% garnering more than 20% of the country’s income, accompanied by a weakening of the middle class – median US household income has fallen by more than 5% over the past decade, and was in decline even before the recession;

-- underinvestment in the public sector, including in infrastructure, evidenced so dramatically by the collapse of New Orleans’ levies; and

-- growth in corporate welfare, from bank bailouts to ethanol subsidies to a continuation of agricultural subsidies, even when those subsidies have been ruled illegal by the World Trade Organization.

As a result, it is relatively easy to formulate a deficit-reduction package that boosts efficiency, bolsters growth, and reduces inequality.
Not easy politically, alas.

3. Nazis. On this date, it would be well to recall Project Paperclip, the secret post-war program to import Nazi scientists and war criminals into the United States. Even if you feel that you have been well-schooled on this subject, you'll find new and shocking material in this excellent series by Hank Albirelli. A sample:
Dr. Gerstner’s Texas cancer patients never for a moment suspected that their treatment at the hands of Gerstner and his associates was not in their best interest or aimed at curing their illness. Even when they became deathly sick with constant vomiting, dehydration, skin lesions, and rapid weight loss, Gerstner’s patients did not suspect that they were being administered an extreme amount of X-ray dosages that would eventually kill them.
Once a Nazi, always a Nazi. And that is why we must always oppose fascists -- foreign and domestic.

4. Farewell, America?
This piece forecasts the end of the dollar's dominance. China and the US are facing off -- and China may hold the stronger position.

Alfred W. McCoy (best known for his seminal The Politics of Heroin) projects trends into the future -- the near future.
Despite the aura of omnipotence most empires project, a look at their history should remind us that they are fragile organisms. So delicate is their ecology of power that, when things start to go truly bad, empires regularly unravel with unholy speed: just a year for Portugal, two years for the Soviet Union, eight years for France, 11 years for the Ottomans, 17 years for Great Britain, and, in all likelihood, 22 years for the United States, counting from the crucial year 2003.
And the Romans...? McCoy left them out. That's because it's not easy to say when the collapse of the Roman empire began -- although many would say that the period of decline lasted from 395 to 476 (AD). Rome's great rival, the Parthian empire, began to totter around 114 AD but managed to hang on for another hundred years. Then there's the Mogul Empire, which got onto a downward trajectory in the early 1700s and formally came to an end in 1857.

So be of good cheer, folks. Contrary to McCoy's dire warning, it is possible for us to sludge our way into slow oblivion! Yes we can!

5. Graphics. A reader informs me that the previous attempt at a New Deal poster/t-shirt/whatever may have been unclear. We don't want anyone to misinterpret the storyline.

So here is a revised version. Hope this pounds the message home in an unmistakable fashion. (Click to enlarge.)

By the way -- many thanks for all the feedback on these graphics. The general sense seems to be that the "red and blue arrow" logo is punchier. On the other hand, it doesn't work in black and white -- and the "pyramid" logo does.

Besides, the pyramid thingie will make the Alex Jonesians shriek. You gotta love that.
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Sorry, but I can't bear the thought of our logo with BO's face on it. And, as I recall, this movement isn't just about Obama, correct? Please, please, PLEASE, no logo with Obama's face on it or that horrible poster thingamabob that every one has taken and used ad nauseum.

I'm begging you. Please, no.
 
What about the rectangular New Deal with out arrows? In your latest iteration the red (republican) arrow is pushing the blue (Democratic) arrow off the field.
The word New with a blue background and the word Deal with a red background works because the blue is over the red, Dems superior to repubs.
The Obama Xing into FDR is too derivative of that Hope poster, it doesn't work as good as the shredded Obamandias parody.
How about a Monty Pythonesque animation of Obama's head opening up like a toilet seat lid to reveal a little Ronald Reagan at the controls? Just some thoughts.
 
If you want to do something that has both Obama and FDR why not Barack using Roosevelt's grave stone as a urinal?
Harsh, I know and certainly bad taste but it gets the message across.
 
I like the film-roll from Obama to FDR more than the X-out, but the message is still a bit muddled... "What's this mean, Obama is the new FDR?" I'm thinking of how mangled most American's understanding of history has become. Maybe something along the lines of "New Deal Yes, Obama No" ? I hate to nitpick with my lack of graphical abilities, but if you want feedback...

For a movement platform, might I suggest: Public financing of all national elections? (Senate, House, President.. leave the Gubernatorial to the states as a sop to states-right-ists.) In my view, we'll never separate the corruption from the public service without separating the contributions from the campaigns. Ad space on television/radio is conducted over the public domain (airwaves) and should be a public service provided by the license holders. Additional funding should be provided to candidates based on....? Signatories for inclusion on ballots? It may not be perfect but it's a better than polls. And really, taxing people for election funding isn't increased taxation, it's shifted taxation - the lobbyists don't get paid out of thin air by their private benefactors, but from pricing that includes lobbying expenses.
 
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Take THAT, Shep!



I'm thinking t-shirts. (Click to enlarge.)
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Hey, I just got a job (part time and minimum wage, but it's a start) so now I can buy one.

catlady
 
I love it. It really shows who Obama is underneath. I'm a little concerned that the red arrow is pushing or pointing forward, and the blue arrow is pointing backwards, though I suppose one could be stopping the other. Still, lovely that you could show who the President really is inside.
 
Woah. Tiro, did you wander here from a right-wing blog? If so, then I have to thank you -- because you stopped me from making a mistake. I did not intend to convey the impression that Obama was in any way FDR-like "underneath." I am a big fan of FDR -- 100%.

The idea I was trying to convey was this: "Let's cross out Obama and replace him with someone who will carry on the FDR legacy."

Images are a language. But not a precise one. Even the artist may not understand that multiple interpretations are possible.
 
That would make a great animated .gif or flash animation.
 
I like this concept. But as Tiro was mistaken, it might be misinterpreted. What if we had a pic of FDR with an equal sign next to a blank silhouette with a ? over its face?

Or simply, two pics of Obama and FDR separated by a not equal sign.

FembotsForObama
 
I didn't wander here from a right wing blog. I sometimes wander here from the center, and I know you, and what you mean to say. But I only know what you are getting at because I know you. To my eye, it doesn't really work as an X as in crossing out. Instead, it seems to be a storyboard of a reveal. This is aided, in the 3rd panel, by the way head, chin, and ears line up. Really, it looks to me to express the sentiments of the folks you like to refer to as Obots. I think your Kos crowd might buy a few as well.

I have no interest in your slit party plans, but I like you well enough, so I thought i'd give you a heads up that this particular poster might be read differently by different people.
 
I wouldn't buy anything with Obama's face on it, even if it's crossed out.
 
I think the crossed out version is very clear, Joseph. Love the new logo, with the "Let's Fight Back" slogan.

(And congratulations to catlady on her new job. In this job market, that is a wonderful first step.)

djmm
 
Sigh. When I saw you were back, Cannon, I was cautiously optimistic. I used to love your quirky and insightful analysis. I even donated to the site. But, it's tiresome to check in and see the childish slams on Palin. It would be one thing if you showed the same amount of venom about every picayune aspect of male republicans, but you don't. (Your lauding of Romney - a complete weirdo and sociopath - is case in point)

Wish I could stay around and even donate again, but piling on the only woman in the group is just not my bag, baby.
 
Run -- first, I think you meant this comment for the more recent post.

Hey, if you'll donate if I say nasty things about Romney, I'll be happy to sing for my supper. I think he's as oily as they come.
 
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Let's call 'em "The Kos Kuts"

I just received a spam email from the "campaign director" of the Daily Kos. They want to mount a campaign to support Bernie Sanders' potential filibuster of the Great Obama Tax Cave-in.
With the Daily Kos community voting 3-1 in opposition to the deal, we need to show our support for the progressive members of Congress who are not caving. Give them that support now by signing our petition, and sending words of encouragement.
By all means, let's support the Congressfolk who oppose Obama on this -- but for crying out loud, don't let the Daily Freakin' Kos take credit.

More than any other single internet entity, Daily Kos is responsible for creating the Obama cult. Everyone knows that Markos Moulitsas' wildly popular forum functioned as an extension of the Obama campaign, continually publishing smears and distortions and Fox-like attacks directed against any perceived foe of the splendiferous Mister O.

In a sense, Moulitsas bears as much responsibility as Obama does for the deal to keep those millionaire tax cuts in place. Headline writers refer to those cuts as "Bush cuts. Maybe we should call them "Kos Kuts."

That's why we need to get the "New Deal" movement up and going. (And rest assured: Things are happening.) We need a force to reform the Democratic party. Markos Moulitsas -- Obama's Jagger-lipped former bedmate -- has no right to lead that charge.

Speaking of the New Deal...




Turns out that some folks really like the first design, and some really like the second. You think we can somehow use both?

Also: Obama's symbol also uses the sunrise motif. I'm not sure if that's a problem

In a speech, Abraham Lincoln once noted that painters cannot easily differentiate a rising sun from a setting sun. Look again at Obama's symbol: I think we all now know which way the sun is going.
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I like both logos, but prefer the "New Deal, let's fight back" better. I like bold red and blue colors with geometric patterns in conflict. I think we know that it won't be a sunshine feel good task, but a push back.
 
The second is better because of the "Let's fight back." The first reminds me of Reagan's "Morning In America."
 
I personally think anything that reminds me of the Obama O-logo is not good...
 
Definitely the second. "Let's fight back" clears up any ambivalence about the direction(s) of the arrows.
 
Your designs are great, Joe. I wouldn't be surprised if the design with the central peak will strike the crazies as Japanese, or symbolic of evil or somesuch. Glenn Beck will find it very threatening. Of course, we have to decide if we care what the crazies think.
 
I tend to prefer the blue sun-rise logo. The red & blue logo is a little too "busy" for my taste - the impact isn't immediate for me, it takes a second or two for me to figure out what's going on (but.. I'm not the most visually inclined person). On the flip side, the Obama logo & the sunrise logo share a troubling similarity. Ideally, the image itself should communicate a separate-ness from Obama and his ilk. If the movement gains traction, everybody will be keen to hop on the bandwagon and co-opt it. The more distinct the message at it's inception, the more resilient it will be to co-option.
 
I agree with JJ aka Minkoff Minx -- we don't want anything to remind people of Zero's logo. A more formidable contrast, as in the second sign, will get voter's attention. I don't want to have to argue for anything that resembles the Smurf logo as the stronger alternative in '12.

FembotsForObama
 
Also: Obama's symbol also uses the sunrise motif. I'm not sure if that's a problem

Whatever makes you think the "O-go" is a sunrise?????
 
"Obama's Jagger-lipped former bedmate"

Do I even want to Google that or ask you about it?
 
DK: I spoke poetically.
 
As far as Obama's "sun" symbol is concerned I think it looks more like a big doughnut hole. To me it looks hollow just like Obama, a big "O", like "0" as in ZERO!
 
I realize I was out of the loop yesterday,but I'm for the red/blue logo. I think it's more forceful. The pyramid is just okay with me.
 
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Monday, December 06, 2010

"Symbolic"? My ass!

Polls tell us that the majority of Americans do not want to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. At least one poll revealed that the majority of Republicans do not want those cuts extended. I'm not even sure that the majority of millionaires want the cuts extended.

Yet Obama's compromise extended Bush's tax cuts for millionaires, for two years. In practical terms, the cuts are permanent, because Republicans will control Congress two years from now. Structurally high deficits will make it impossible to pass any legislation that might aid the recovery. Bad economic times will be great for the Republicans in an election year.

Quoted in the Washington Post, Obama said:
"Sympathetic as I am to those who would prefer a fight to compromise, it would be the wrong thing to do," the president said. "The American people didn't send us here to wage symbolic battles."
He seems unwilling to engage in any battles, symbolic or otherwise. And that aversion to conflict is itself symbolic -- of a failed presidency and a failed party. If this is the sort of wimpified governance we get while the Dems still control Congress, what may we expect next year?

Symbolism? Let's talk pragmatism:
But he could easily have killed the Bush tax cuts and thereby done more good for our nation’s fiscal situation than anyone will be in a position to do for many years to come. Killing the tax cuts would alone reduce the national debt by roughly as much as the deficit commission’s entire proposal. And killing the tax cuts was the path of least resistance. Obama could have done it by doing nothing. Or he could have done it by taking a strong negotiating position and being willing to walk away from the table.
The Democrats could have forced the Republicans to engage in a genuine filibuster -- the kind that makes 'em stay up all night while wearing Pampers. That would have made great theater: The Republicans fighting for tax breaks for millionaires while the Dems fight for continuing unemployment benefits. Dramatic? You bet. But that drama wouldn't have been merely symbolic; it would have been a matter of life or death.

As I keep telling people, a little-noticed Senate rule would have allowed the Democrats, during such proceedings, to change the rules on filibusters. No one has ever pointed out a flaw in my argument.

Speaking of filibusters, Bernie Sanders may mount one against the Obama/GOP plan. Good for him!

It seems that Taylor Marsh (up with whom I have not kept) has turned around yet again on Obama:
Harry S Truman would have told the Republicans to go pound sand.

William Jefferson Clinton would have gotten something real for the trouble, while sticking it to Republicans by letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire. Because back in the early ’90s, Bill first showed Republicans who was boss before he compromised.

But can we now all agree that Republicans don’t give a damn about the deficit?
Republicans won't agree. They live in mythworld -- a fantasyland in which Ronald Reagan reduced the deficit and Clinton expanded it.

Drudge's headline: "The New Obama -- Surprise Tax CUT move!"

Why the surprise? Why the word "New"? The stimulus bill was largely a tax cut bill, not a jobs bill. Republicans won't tell you that fact -- in fact, they'll tell you the precise opposite of the truth. Worse, the citizenry prefers GOP propaganda to lived experience:
Only 12 percent of the public say that the Obama administration has lowered their taxes since coming to office, despite the fact that the White House's stimulus package cut taxes for 95 percent of Americans, a new opinion survey found.
In addition, the CBS/NYT poll found that 24 percent of respondents said that their taxes had actually increased under the Obama administration -- which is, again, not true.
If Fox News and Rush Limbaugh said that horses can talk, would people believe them? Probably.

Obama, an allegedly gifted communicator, could not gain political capital from a tax cut bill. Democrats cannot even persuade the public that such a bill was passed and signed. And now Obama has delivered a handout to millionaires, enriching the affluent while afflicting the destitute.

Symbolism? That's for French film-makers. I want to see combat.
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You mean...the people who tried to tell us Barack Obama was woefully unfit to be President were right? Can apologies be far behind?
 
This all comes back to one thing, the print and broadcast media that has controlled the outcome of the last three presidential elections.
Not just Fox News or Conservative talk radio, but all of them.
Voters think Obama raised taxes because that is what the corporate controlled media wants then to think. Things can not be put right until the media is neutralized.
We need a thousand more Bob Somerby types out there blogging.
 
Symbolic? Symbolic? Is this child delusional? He's the one engaging in "symbolic" bipartisanship.
 
You know how I found out about the Make Work Pay deduction and the sales tax deduction and the property tax deduction contained in the stimulus bill? I read the fine print in my tax return instruction book. Otherwise, this normally attentive person would never have known.

Why the hell wasn't that being pounded by Public Service Announcements all over the United States? They certainly have plenty of ads up right now about Medicare!
 
Some people aren't old enough, weren't paying attention at the time, or have forgotten in the meantime, exactly how Clinton repeatedly caved and caved to Gingrich when he was in a weak spot.

Gingrich himself, without apparent consultation with anyone, and for reasons he described as mystical, decided that the budget had to be balanced in 7 years. This was so arbitrary that even a faithful Gingrich lieutenant, House Budget Committee Chairman John Kasich, verbally rebelled, and demanded to know how and why this capricious and potentially harmful timeline was decided on.

Clinton said, 'ok,' much to the horror of the Democratic caucus, apparently for no reason but cowardice and/or his own craven political considerations, and without gaining any concessions.

Then Gingrich insisted that the budget projections for the balanced budget use the CBO numbers, although the executive branch OMB numbers had been proven far more accurate (and were more optimistic on growth and revenue projections, meaning the OMB numbers required far less cutting, even with the 7 year timeline). Democrats disagreed with Gingrich, but Clinton said, 'ok,' and the Democratic caucus was outraged.

Note, these Clinton moves were not only pure caves contrary to Democratic Party positions, but they threatened the still-then-mediocre recovery by imposing entirely arbitrary timelines and the use of proven overly pessimistic CBO numbers to squeeze large amounts of federal spending out of the economy, lessening total effective demand.

So, in these respects, what Obama did does not contrast with what Clinton did, but is quite similar. Moreover, Obama had some actually good reasons for his so-called caving here.

If we use a hostage negotiation as the guideline here, one cannot disregard the lives of the hostages. 'Taking out' the hostage takers, but at the cost of the hostages lives, is not a good result, even if the red-hots of one or another persuasion might applaud it.

What Obama avoided was the prospect of the increase in taxes on everybody, which contrary to his critics on the left, would certainly be blamed on him and the Democratic party (by liars, of course, but persuasive 24/7 liars with unparalleled reach and influence of a kind barely started in the Clinton years).

What he got EXTRA, as part of this total deal, is essentially Stimulus II, which he couldn't have gotten in any other fashion, and which by all expert opinion is essential to improve the recovery. That's quite a benefit, making the Tea Party types cry (and one they would have obstructed next year). Even Rush today 'warned' that this deal contained a 'hidden stimulus'-- UIC extension is about $90 billion, 2 points off the payroll tax another $50 billion a year (x 2 years = $100 billion), the sub-$250k income tax break = $300 billion a year, and even the $70 billion cost of the $250k+ rate extension itself somewhat stimulative. All in all, Obama's move now puts more stimulus into the economy than the annual figure average of his first stimulus bill (and without GOP opposition, since they are signing onto this compromise).

And beyond that, he now has the prospect of some other accomplishments in the dwindling time of this lame duck session, which couldn't have taken place with the GOP threatening to filibuster anything until the tax extension was done.

These include likely the end of DADT, fulfilling the promise of Harry Reid to Hispanics of bringing the Dream Act to a vote, and possibly, the critically important START treaty.

So, instead of 'being strong,' (but wrong), which would have ended all Congressional activity except symbolic votes for the rest of the year, AND ended up with all taxes raised on everybody (which no one save the resurrected David Stockman really advocated), and thereby strangled this weak recovery to the benefit of no one, Obama has actually gotten an arguably good or at least not all bad result (as Obama critic Ezra Klein admitted yesterday).

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Clinton repeatedly caved and caved to Gingrich when he was in a similarly weak spot.

Gingrich himself, for reasons he described as mystical, decided that the budget had to be balanced in 7 years. This was so arbitrary that even a faithful Gingrich lieutenant, House Budget Chair John Kasich, verbally rebelled, and demanded to know how and why this capricious and harmful timeline was decided on.

Clinton said, 'ok,' much to the horror of the Democratic caucus, apparently for no reason, and without gaining any concessions.

Then Gingrich insisted that the budget projections for the balanced budget use CBO numbers, although OMB numbers had been proven far more accurate (and were more optimistic on growth and revenue projections, meaning the OMB numbers required smaller cuts). Democrats disagreed with Gingrich, but Clinton said, 'ok,' and the Democratic caucus was outraged.

Note, Clinton's moves were not only caves, but they threatened the still-then-mediocre recovery.

So, in these respects, what Obama did does not contrast with what Clinton did, but is quite similar. Moreover, Obama had some good reasons for his so-called caving here.

What Obama avoided was an ncrease in taxes on everybody, which contrary to his critics on the left, would certainly be blamed on him and the Democratic party.

What he got EXTRA, as part of this total deal, is essentially Stimulus II, which he couldn't have gotten in any other fashion, and which by all experts is essential to improve the recovery. All in all, Obama's move now puts more stimulus into the economy than the annual figure of his first stimulus bill (and without GOP opposition, since they are signing onto this compromise).

And beyond that, other things can get done in the dwindling time of this lame duck session.

These include likely the end of DADT, fulfilling the promise of Harry Reid to Hispanics of bringing the Dream Act to a vote, the critically important START treaty, etc.

So, instead of 'being strong,' (but wrong), and thereby strangled this weak recovery to the benefit of no one, Obama has actually gotten an arguably good (or at least not all bad) result (as Obama critic Ezra Klein admitted yesterday).

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Obamandias



I met a traveller through antique blogs
Who said: “A vast and cheeto-colored trove
Is Google-accessible. In '08, the progs --
Haughty, power-mad, resembling Rove --
Told all to bow before an ad which flogs
An image Photoshopped by someone chic.
They read into that face a promise bright:
The change we long for and the HOPE we seek.
And then a half-term senator, resume-free,
Said: “I am Obamandias, bringer of light:
You all have been waiting for us -- for ME!”
Nothing of that remains. It wasn’t real.
From that colossal ego we must flee.
We need new blood and a new NEW DEAL.”


(Apologies to the shade of Shelley. Anyone may reprint the poem or image without asking my permission. I'd appreciate a link back to this site -- or maybe here. Incidentally, "Obamandias" is pronounced OH-bah-MAN-dee-yass.)

Update: This piece of tripe on Salon pooh-poohs the "dump Obama" movement, claiming that our Dear Leader remains beloved of Dems. To prove the point, the writer glowingly quotes Andrew Sullivan, who is here proffered as a spokesperson for All Democrats Everywhere.

Andrew Freaking Sullivan. The cheerleader for Dubya, the Iraq war, Ron Paul and libertarianism. For some reason, establishment pundits keep trumpeting this man as someone important, as someone who counts, as someone worth reading. Damned if I know why.

Salon says that Andrew Sullivan represents you. Does he?
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I just want to say I clicked on the Salon piece and started to read it. I just couldn't get through that crap article. I'm glad you read it, so I don't have to....I looked at the four things and they are laughable. I am so sick of everyone trying to tell us how we're supposed to think and feel. I'm not that stupid!
 
BRAVO!!! poete extraordinaire!!!!


catlady
 
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The even Newer Deal (Update: Look at who's on board!)

Ever have one of those days? Everything I've designed this weekend looks...wrong. Even the soup stain on my shirt seems aesthetically inferior to previous soup stains.

Still, maybe this will work as a logo for the new New Deal movement. Both the font and the decorative element come from the Art Deco movement -- the FDR era -- yet they look modern. (Please don't mention Shepherd Fairey. His sunrays are way different.) This design works in black and white, and in many different sizes.

If you came in late, scroll down a few posts for the New Deal manifesto. We're starting a new movement -- a Democratic analog to the tea party movement. Weirdly enough, the exact same idea seems to have occurred to a number of different bloggers over the course of a single weekend. It was downright spooky. See, for example, Blue Lyon and Riverdaughter and Anglachel and Sky Dancing.

The dispensers of conventional wisdom still pooh-pooh the idea of primary challenge to Obama. From the New Republic:
Most importantly, who would run? Hillary Clinton has ruled it out categorically. Al Gore’s electioneering days appear to be long over. There’s been talk of Russ Feingold running (mainly based on a misunderstanding of an “I’ll be back” statement he made on election night which seems to have referred to a future Senate race). Dean would win headlines, but has a poor reputation in Iowa, where any progressive challenge would have to be launched. There are no guaranteed primary vote-getters out there like Estes Kefauver in 1952, and certainly no one close to the stature of Ted Kennedy. And there's a reason no incumbent president has actually been defeated for re-nomination since the nineteenth century.

So that's it. What we are likely to see is a marginal opponent: a Dennis Kucinich, or a Harold Ford, or some celebrity who hasn’t held office but is willing to spend some money. More serious comers will be chased away by the hard, cold reality of what it would take to mount a presidential campaign against the White House in places like Iowa and Nevada and New Hampshire and South Carolina.
My response? There are quite a few Democrats in this country, and most of them would like a Democrat to vote for. Obama may have a (D) next to his name, but his policies are rated (R).

The New Republic makes the mistake Democrats always make: They accept the terrain as it is. The Right doesn't do that. They get out their bulldozers and remake the political landscape.

Go thou and do likewise.

Build a movement and leaders will appear.

Update: Carolyn Kay hipped me to this amazing piece by Clarence B. Jones, Scholar in Residence, Martin Luther King, Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University -- at HuffPo, no less.
It is not easy to consider challenging the first African-American to be elected as President of the United States. But, regrettably, I believe that the time has come to do this.
The pursuit of the war in Afghanistan in support of a certifiably corrupt Afghan government and the apparent willingness to retreat from his campaign commitment of no further tax cuts for the rich, his equivocal and foot dragging leadership to end DADT, his TARP for Wall Street, but, equivocal insufficient attention to the unemployment and housing foreclosures of Main Street, suggest that the template of the 1968 challenge to the reelection of President Lyndon Johnson now must be thoughtfully considered for Obama in 2012.
And there's the ultimate answer to those who tell us that challenging Obama will strengthen the Republicans. If Johnson had run again in 1968, he would have done worse than Humphrey did -- and certainly worse than RFK would have, had he lived.

HHH came thisclose to victory; he failed only because the anti-war left could work up no enthusiasm for Johnson's veep. That's why Biden can't be the standard-bearer in 2012. (I'd love to vote for him, but I seem to be the only one.)

To those who think purely in terms of shirts-versus-skins -- to those who say that if you don't love Obama you must love Palin -- I say: Look at history. We are hardly the first Democrats saddled with a disappointing leader. The protesters yelling "Hey, hey, LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?" were not right-wingers, and did not want to see Nixon in office. They protested because conscience required protest, and history justified their stance.

Bobby would have won.

Johnson would have lost.

And Obama...?

PS. I just noticed something striking about the "blue sunrise" logo above: If you squint a bit, you could say that this design resembles the old "eye in the triangle" motif which plays such a huge role in right-wing kook literature. That should drive the far-right conspiracy wackos nuts. Free publicity!
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Stipulated: no O-holes allowed in the New Deal Movement. I'm not joining forces with any Obama supporters on anything.
 
I like that logo a lot.

Boston Boomer
 
Love the new logo. Should I switch it out in my post?

BTW, yes, I've been thinking along these lines for a while, even though I co-opted a lot of what you, Anglachel and RD have to say. I want my party back, dammit. I'm not ready to slink away without a fight. But most of my thoughts have been in my head during long drives to and from work.

I suppose this means that I'm going to have to attend local Dem meetings again and really get going on the networking. So be it. I've done it before, and I can do it again. I'm ready to go in and state my case. I would venture to bet there are plenty there who feel as we do.
 
All blue with an up pointing arrow head is good. Not as visually striking as your red white and blue designs.
 
I'm torn between the two designs. The new design seems more positive. It's odd, but it makes me think of hope. Not the fake Obama hopium, but real honest-to-God hope. But it's a soft symbol.

Your previous design does have problems, but it symbolizes strength, fight. It makes me think of the line from Network, "We're not going to take it any more." And let's face it, we're going to need a broad reaction of "We're not going to take it anymore" to get the new New Deal moving and succeeding.

Barbara
 
Perry, I hear ya. But to forgive is divine. Let's put it this way: The new site, as I conceive it, will have up an article or two documenting what happened in 2008.

Maybe we'll finally get that apology...?
 
Maybe not an apology, but I don't want to hear a single one of them utter the words, "Hillary wouldn't have been any different."
 
Robert Kuttner of The American Prospect is also on board.

Since the mid-term rout, some progressive donors who were big Obama supporters in 2010, have been meeting on the issue of trying to topple Obama in favor of a Democrat who would be able to fight the 2012 election as an economic progressive with clean hands, challenging the failures of both Obama and of the Republicans. Names that have been mentioned include Howard Dean, Russ Feingold, and Byron Dorgan.

My initial reaction was that this idea is both premature and far-fetched. Ted Kennedy's run against Jimmy Carter in 1980 only softened up Carter for Ronald Reagan in the general election. On the other hand, toppling LBJ was the right thing to do. Had Bobby Kennedy not been murdered or had Hubert Humphrey displayed just a bit more nerve, the Democrats could well have held off Richard Nixon in 1968, and emerged as a more effective governing progressive party.

The labor movement is just disgusted with Obama. Young people who rallied to him are turned off. Progressives in Congress are seething. Obama could well head into 2012 with little of his base intact, save the African American community. A serious primary challenger could easily win Iowa, where it all began. And a primary fight is a terrific organizing tool. It could force the media to take note of a progressive message about the economy.

 
WB/ Joseph, altho I feel your outrage at being forced to engage in the political/public arena.

I felt the same way when Bush stole the 2000 election.

The logo is nice, love the font, but I'm not sure about the name of the movement itself. The Obots are the same as the Naderites. The same type, the same people. Nader not only succeeded in driving a stake through the Dem brand, but also through the Green Party brand, which he abandoned.

To me, that was his biggest sin. The only justification for what Nader and his moronic followers did to us in 2000 would've been to build the Green Party into a new force to be reckoned with. The fact that, instead, we are more fragmented than ever, does not bode well.

We need women, POC, working class and even the Whole Foods Nation...and I don't think "New Deal" alone captures that.
 
btw, I peeked in to see if you had a take on War Hawk Joe Lieberman's obsession with repealing DADT.

How ironic is it that certain people make equality their fight....when it's because we need every spare body, even gay bodies, to fuel America's top industry, war.

OT, I know....but I'm hoping to see your input on that at some point.
 
The New Deal is where the fight is, period. The best that the Democratic party stands for and has done for the American people comes from the New Deal. The security and rights established by the New Deal are those that are under attack by the right. These ideals worked well for many years and Democrats understand this fact.

On the Obama supporters...I think we need every vote we can get. I never believed the hype, but they did. They were willingly blinded by it. But, if they oppose Obama, they will be some of our best allies. What is the saying, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

If they have seen the light, I say let them in. Good to see you again Perry.
 
1. I like the new logo.

2. I also like the first logo you posted on Dec 4 (including the left pointing arrow), but not the other two variants.

3. I agree (regarding some of the prior O-backers) that to forgive is divine. E.g. Jane Hamsher and some of the FDL folks have some decent things to say these days. In general, I favor being inclusive.

On a side point, I noticed this item today in the Paul Street live blog at Corrente.

4. However, the problem that O-backers pose is one of co-optation. There’s a difference in kind – including a substantial difference in values - between traditional left, FDR-style Democrats, etc. versus "creative class"/Whole Food Nation (Anglachel also makes this point well). It’s not clear to me how such co-optation would be prevented. I think the core principals need to be well articulated at the outset.


BTW – I’m beginning to think that there might be a glitch with submission of comments to Cannonfire via the Name/URL option (so trying Google Accounts instead).
 
Replace/overlay the blue field/stars on the flag with the Triangle New Deal logo. It's a winner.
 
New Deal trope has enormous emotional pull w/seniors, not sure how the disaffected young (hi-fav Obama voters in '08, no-shows this November) assimilate the old-school message. As far as primarying O -- both Johnson and Carter were eminently beatable by Rs (and Carter by another D not Chappaquiddicked Teddy). It comes down to two political judgements -- will O be so weak this time next year that his re-elect chances are beyond dim and will African-Americans sit out the general if it's not Obama in '12. Watch what high-powered D contributors like Soros, the Google guys and the national unions do this year.
 
Rich, I can't agree. Today's seniors were in their 40s and politically active during the Carter years and the Reagan revolution. The phrase "New Deal" seems like dangerously old hat to people in their 50s -- but to people in their 20s, it's terra incognita.

More than that. We're letting the libertarians rewrite history. Via Glenn Beck and others, they are convincing a new generation that FDR caused the Depression.

The only way to combat the misinformation is to embrace the past, and to talk about what FDR actually did.

Incidentally, the "Tea Party" imagery also harkens to the past -- to the 18th century. That's not a past within living memory. It feels unnerving to admit this, but -- to an increasing degree, 1933 is no longer a living memory. Someone who was 20 then would be nearly 100 today.

Mounting a primary challenge to Obama is only part of the goal. The larger goal is to capture the heart of the party, just as the teabaggers captured the GOP.
 
There might be a glitch with submission of comments to Cannonfire. For some comments I try to submit, I have to submit several times, tinkering with characters or breaking the original comments into pieces, before it gets through. Switching the submission type from Name/URL to Google Accounts doesn’t help (nor does switching browser type). I suspect that if I’m having this problem, others might also. I’m going to try resubmitting a comment here, but breaking it into three pieces (containing four points), to try to localize which element of the comment is causing the problem.

1. I like the new logo.

2. I also like the first logo you posted on Dec 4 (including the left pointing arrow), but not the other two variants.
 
3. I agree (regarding some of the prior O-backers) that to forgive is divine. E.g. Jane Hamsher and some of the FDL folks have some decent things to say these days. In general, I favor being inclusive.

On a side point, I noticed this item today in the Paul Street live blog at Corrente.
 
4. However, the problem that O-backers pose is one of co-optation. There’s a difference in kind – including a substantial difference in values - between traditional left, FDR-style Democrats, etc. versus "creative class"/Whole Food Nation (Anglachel also makes this point well). It’s not clear to me how such co-optation would be prevented. I think the core principals need to be well articulated at the outset.
 
What I’ve encountered so far fits the hypothesis that the presence of certain character strings in a comment prevents it from going through on Cannonfire. To further localize the problem here, I’m resubmitting point three split into two separate parts.

3a. I agree (regarding some of the prior O-backers) that to forgive is divine. E.g. Jane Hamsher and some of the FDL folks have some decent things to say these days. In general, I favor being inclusive.
 
What I’ve encountered so far fits the hypothesis that the presence of certain character strings in a comment prevents it from going through on Cannonfire. To further localize the problem here, I’m resubmitting point three split into two separate parts.

3b. On a side point, I noticed this item today in the Paul Street live blog at Corrente.
 
It seems that sentences composed only of common words, with only commas and periods as punctuation, never trigger the problem. The glitch only seems to occur when the text contains abbreviations, parentheses, colons, names, or hyperlinks. The following is an attempted rewrite of the second part of the third point, to see if it goes through.

3b. On a side point, I noticed this item today in the Paul Street live blog at Corrente.
http://www.correntewire.com/live_blog_paul_street_here#comment-185270
 
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Sunday, December 05, 2010

Let's fight back

I give you the final form of the New Deal logo. Well...maybe the final form. (See the previous two posts for a preview of this important upcoming project.) Many, many thanks to those who offered feedback on the earlier versions.

(Update: Now that I've been looking at this thing for half a day, I don't like it. Sometimes it takes me a few hours to "fall in hate" with a visual idea. Back to the drawing board!)

There has been some question as to whether the arrows denote "right versus left" or "past versus future." The former was my intention. Frankly, though, I'm not bothered if anyone sees the blue arrow as a pointer to the past -- because the Democratic past deserves admiration and emulation.

Maybe that's one reason why I came to dislike the term "progressive." Progress toward what?

The term "radical" also has unnerving connotations. The Nazis were pretty damned radical. So are the teabaggers and the libertarians. The tea party movement is funded by the Kochs, who ultimately hope to end the very idea of government. Somalia is their utopia.

The right no longer deserves the term "conservative." They don't want to conserve anything. Like Tyler Durden (a fictional character who demonstrates the way anti-establishment rebellion can morph into fascism), the libertarians want to destroy civilization and start afresh. That was the program in Iraq; that was the program in Yeltsin's Russia; that's what they want to do everywhere else.

When people ask for a quick definition of my political stance, I tell them that I am an Eisenhower Republican -- which means that, by modern definition, I am a Bolshie. That's a joke, but it's a joke with truth in it.

In Ike's day, both major political parties shared a basic understanding of how to maintain prosperity. I want a return to that economic consensus; so do many other people. (But I do not want a return to unjust, foolish and stultifying mid-century attitudes regarding race and sex.)

Look again at the blue arrow in the logo. Is it pointing left or is it pointing to the past? Either reading works for me.

Let's go back. Back to the future.

And let's start with a primary challenge to Obama. The idea gains momentum by the hour. Look at the compendium of opinion in this superb post over at Sky Dancing. Today, the only argument is whether Obama went rightward by intent or by incompetence. As longtime readers know, I came to the conclusion early on that he leans right by nature. But if we want to form a mass movement, we must forgive those who woke up late.

One thing is for sure: Fewer and fewer liberals count Obama among their number.

Will Democrats lose black voters if they field another candidate? The depressed black vote during the midterms indicates unhappiness with the way Barack Obama is doing business. Fewer black voters support him than ever before, and those who still do seem (in my view) much less enthusiastic. I suspect that many African Americans are no longer for Obama; they are against Palin, Huckabee, Gingrich or Romney.

I feel the same way. That's why we need a New Deal.

Black unemployment is now up to 16 percent -- and as we all know, the real unemployment figures are always substantially higher. Eventually, African American voters must ask themselves: Which is more important -- having a job or supporting Obama?

Barack Obama is hardly the only American politician who hails from a minority group. There are plenty of talented people in the African American, Latino and Asian communities, and most of those potential candidates have a genuine commitment to liberal principles.

Face it: We elected a Dem who ain't no Dem. Time for a New Deal.
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ummm, that's a post by MABlue and he's not a madam by any extent!
 
I am so sorry. Ever have one of those days where you try to do six zillion things and end up semi-failing at all of them?
 
If it is THE new deal shouldn't the democrats have more representation in the logo than rep. I mean as far colors and arrows. what I am trying to say the logo say bipartisan, and the new deal in essance is left leaning.
 
When the heck did you start posting again? And what is up with Cinie's World?
 
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Saturday, December 04, 2010

New Deal: It's time to fight back! (UPDATE)

What do you think of the logo? Can you see this on T-shirts?

Unless there are major objections, this logo (or something similar) will appear on the forthcoming site discussed in the post below.

Just in case anyone reading these words cannot understand why we need a modern New Deal movement, check out this Politico story: "Barack Obama's deals may leave liberals behind." When have they not?
Democratic divisions make this task harder since the necessary compromises by Obama will almost certainly come at the expense of the left.
UPDATE: And here's another example. During the campaign, Obama said "I will take a backseat to no one in protecting net neutrality." Now, his FCC chairman, Julius Genachowski (who headed Obama's telecommunications working group during the campaign) has revealed plans to end net neutrality. Big telecomunications companies will now soon be able to prioritize web traffic, creating a "pay to play" internet that will censor the unfunded.

Has there ever been a campaign lie so brazen? Well, yes -- Obama's Great NAFTA Hoax. Remember that?

Hey hey ho ho: Mr. O has got to go. It's time to fight back.

There was some surprisingly respectful discussion of the "New Deal" proposal on Democratic Underground. As you know, many of the commentators there have become disillusioned with Obama -- but some don't want to see him wounded in the general election (presuming he prevails in the primary).

My response:

1. Although Jimmy Carter was a better president than Obama, I've never regretted my vote for Teddy Kennedy during the 1980 primaries. Kennedy represented my values. At the convention, when Kennedy spat out the name of Zbigniew Brzezinski (who was Carter's Kissinger), the crowd responded with a standing boo.

The ever-Machiavellian Brzezinski later mentored Barack Obama.

2. If Obama can't turn this economy around pronto, he can't possibly win. If he sensibly takes the LBJ route and bows out of the 2012 race, we'll need Democrats ready to hop in. Lets make sure that they are New Deal Democrats -- Democrats who can claim that they are not cut from Obama's cloth.

3. Yes, even I must admit that there is a considerable difference between Obama and Palin. Yes, there's a difference between Obama and Huckabee. Yes, there's a difference between Obama and Gingrich.

But between Obama and Romney...?

4. If the previous three reasons do not impress you, consider this: The tea party propagandists have convinced at least half the population that Obama is a socialist. The only way to counter that canard is to mount a vigorous challenge to Obama from the left.

We need to pound home the message that Obama's stimulus went to tax cuts, not to job creation. We need to pound home the message that Obama's health care plan was nothing like the one we favored. We need to condemn Bush and Obama alike for not buying the troubled banks outright and firing their chief officers.

5. The Republicans revivified their party and succeeded in 2010 not by going centrist. Playing to the center simply does not work. Bipartisanship simply does not work.

What's that? You say that you would prefer to mount a third party challenge?

Pheh. Come on -- think about it: Have libertarians working within the Libertarian party ever accomplished anything? No. But libertarians working within the Republican party have accomplished astonishing things. Astonishing and horrifying.

We must mirror their tactics if we want to undo the damage they've done.

The best image we can present is that of Franklin D. Roosevelt, the man in the wheelchair who kicked Hitler's ass. No image can be more radical -- or more American.

Visually, I'm going to drape the modern New Deal movement in red, white and blue. The Republicans have been taken over by the tea party fascists, and the tea partiers are talking secession. They want revolution. Unless and until the Republicans in Congress condemn Ron Paul for his endorsement of disunion, they do not deserve to carry the American flag.

For years, wimpy progressives and moderates have told conservatives: "It's our flag too." Here's a stronger message: "It's OUR flag -- PERIOD." If the right won't commit to the union, then they have forfeited their claim to the stars and stripes.

Have you noticed that the rightists no longer call themselves "the patriot movement," as they did in Clinton's day? I suspect that they have already become psychologically dislodged from our union.

Some cynics say that we cannot return to New Deal ideals. They say that times have changed. I ask those cynics to look at the video below. Times were even tougher then -- yet those years produced a president like FDR.

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Hey Joseph--love the New New Deal logo, except the arrow seems to be pointing backwards, to the past, instead of forward.

I'm assuming that was deliberate, but if so I think it's a miscalculation. Sorry.

Missed ya, btw. Welcome back.
 
I like the logo at the top. The arrow on the second one is visually jarring and makes the logo harder to take in at a glance.

I think there are enough real liberals--like most of the American people when it comes down to principles rather than slogans--and enough real socialists to make a popular challenge from the left a viable possibility. It's time to march on Versailles.
 
Past and future? Huh. I wasn't thinking that way, and it's a little surprising to encounter that interpretation. I was thinking in terms of "Heading right" versus "heading left."

Originally, the red arrow -- see it? -- was the first shape to occur to me. But then I thought it would arouse derisive comment if the arrow pointed right. So I had the right-pointing arrow conflicting with a left-pointing arrow.
 
Now, see, I thought the arrow was pointing backwards also...

but I like the colors, the layout and the lettering very much.
 
I think the logo is great.
BTW - my own immediate interpretation (when I first saw it) was of an arrow pointing left (as in heading politically left).
I also slightly prefer the top variant (as opposed to the second one).
 
Keep working on the logo! My main problem with it right now is that the arrow visually divides up the words in the middle. So if I glance at it, it reads "NEDE WAL"
 
Maybe it could point up? (positive, moving up)

I love the New Deal updates.... and I'm glad you're back!
 
Maybe "New Deal" on an upper level, with the arrow fitted between the W and the D, and "It's time to fight back" on a lower level instead of as a kind of footnote?

Or have you already tried that, and it didn't work?
 
Hi,
Welcome back. I too see the arrow pointing left. I think it should point right simply because it denotes forward which is the way. The right is always talking about a simpler better time and taking us back there. OUR inspiration comes from the past, but points to a better future. Try switching the arrow.

Liberal Commontater
 
I had the same reaction to the "backward" arrow. Could you flip the colors and make the forward pointing one overlap the backward pointing one?

Arrows aside, I like it because it's very strong-looking and clear.
 
I am partial to the top logo as well, and what Valhalla said. Flip the arrows, make the blue point right (because people are going to think that it means going forward regardless of your intent), and on top of the red pointing left (and backward).

PS - I'm all in. We've got to retake the Dem party. Trying to create a third party from whole cloth is not going to happen.
 
New guy here. Like what you're doing and what you're about.

I'm not real good on graphics, I'm graphically challenged. I will say the logo is a little "jarring" to me. But like I said, graphics aren't my strong suite.

I do question the tag line; "It's time to fight back". It leaves the unanswered question of who we are fighting, why and for what end.

I would prefer something more positive like "New Deal: Time To Take Our Country Forward" or something along those lines

It's good to find like minded folks. Looking forward to fighting along your side.
 
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NEW DEAL: A MANIFESTO

Should Obama face a primary challenge? A growing number of internet pundits embrace the notion. As the previous post indicated, we don't have a candidate -- yet.

But we can start a movement. Once a movement gets going, candidates will come forward. Build it and they will come.

Construction starts today. Keep watching this space.

That's right: An eccentric and notoriously cantankerous writer running a third-tier blog -- a dweeb who would much rather crawl into an attic and draw pictures all day -- actually intends to start a movement to remake the Democratic party.

Fortunately, I'm not alone. More about that later.

The name of this movement? New Deal.

You may have heard that term before. Why re-invent the wheel? And why hide from a proud history?

New Deal Democrats. If you don't feel comfortable with that phrase, maybe you need another blog. Another party. Another nation.

The new New Dealers will soon have a website. A forum. With luck, we'll have a news magazine. If all goes well, the site will soon feature lots of good writing by people other than yours truly.

The trick, of course, will be to keep contentious factions together: The Hillary hailers, the Gore groupies, the Kucinich kids, the friends of Feingold -- not to mention people like my ladyfriend, who has always had a soft spot for Carol Moseley Braun. There will be those who say that the best strategy for the new party is to go radical; others will prefer a more centrist approach.

What will unite us is this slogan: Anyone but Obama in 2012.

No. I tell a lie. It has to go deeper than that.

This isn't about a presidency; it's about an entire party that has taken the wrong direction.

Right now, we are led by a president who talked like a populist before the election then gave the economy over to Larry Summers and Tim Geithner. In all the controversy over health care "reform," single payer was refused even a moment's consideration. Our Senate leader took money from Abramoff and our House leader sold out on the public option. Only Hillary Clinton called for a new HOLC to keep people in their homes -- and then she was shunted off to the State Department.

Have any Democrats really pushed to end outsourcing? Have any Democrats pushed for tarrifs on cheap imports? Have any Democrats proclaimed that unfettered trade is a failure? Have any Democrats called for government investment in new American factories?

How many Dems would dare to tell you that Toyota would still be a minor maker of looms if not for the massive help it received from the Japanese government?

Today, the Dems are poised to cave on tax cuts for millionaires, even though polls show that the majority of Republican voters don't want such cuts.

The Democrats now stand damned as "socialists" -- yet they continue to run from the FDR legacy. Health care was given over to the insurance vampires. Dems may soon fulfill Dubya's dream of destroying Social Security. We continue to spend our treasure on needless military adventures. The congressman who will probably be the leading Dem on the House Communications Subcommittee wants to end net neutrality. The architects of the Iraq debacle remain uninvestigated and unpunished. Democrats on the intelligence committees never investigate the agencies they should be overseeing. Warrant-free electronic eavesdropping continues.

When citizens facing foreclosure woke up to the fact that the mortgage holders don't actually possess the required paperwork (due to their incessant financial shennanigans), the Obama Dems did not side with the little guys. They sided with the bankers.

The "stimulus" bill was really a tax-cut bill, not a jobs bill. Yet our propagandized citizenry has been taught to view it as a "Marxist" measure. If Democrats are going to take that kind of heat, they might as well have something to show for it. They should have produced a bill that actually puts people back to work.

We need Democrats who will boldly say that capitalism can work only if money is siphoned away from the Swiss bank accounts of the Wall Street vampires and put into the wallets of the struggling many. People who lost their $18 an hour jobs are now competing for $8 an hour jobs. If the average person has no spending power, how will the economy recover?

We need Democrats who will boldly say that those who control 90 percent of the wealth should pay a commensurate share of the taxes. The top tax rate under Eisenhower was, in fact, 90 percent -- and the country did great. Under Reagan, it was 50 percent. Today, it is 35 percent. Strange as it sounds, anyone advocating a "return to Reagan" policy would now be labeled a New Dealer.

How did this happen? Why is the previous norm now considered unthinkable?

We allowed the most radical conservatives to commandeer the national conversation. This must stop. We need Democrats who will regard Republicans, libertarians, secessionists and theocrats as blood enemies.

The GOP has been taken over by tea party fascists who simply do not believe in democracy. They talk about secession. They speak of violent revolution. They have mired themselves in the tar pits of fanaticism and Birchite conspiracy theories. They don't believe in taxation with representation. They have written their own history books -- bizarre revisionist histories which recognize no substantive difference between West Germany and East Germany, between Swede and Soviet.

Until the Republicans cull these monsters from their midst, there can be no bipartisanship.

The Republican base has become indistinguishable from the followers of Francisco Franco and Mussolini. FDR treated fiends of this sort contemptuously and ruthlessly, and we must do likewise.

We need Democrats unafraid to call right-wing zealots by their proper name. If Coughlin deserved to be called a fascist, then so does Beck. The F-word must re-enter everyday political discourse.

Our enemies wrap themselves in the flag and speak of patriotism, even though they seek to end the democratic experiment and turn this country into a Dubai-like hell-hole of indentured servitude. Libertarianism is the true road to serfdom -- yet the Tea Partiers demand a libertarian dystopia at any cost. As Milton Friedman's grandson stated in an unguarded moment, libertarianism is not compatible with democracy. Judson Phillips, a leader of the tea party movement, has called for removing the voting rights of anyone who does not own substantive property. The main funders of the tea party movement, the Koch brothers, are anarchists who believe that the United States government should be abolished. "Dominionists" have actually called for a return to slavery.

Can we ever make peace with the mad zealots who think this way? No.

Bipartisanship equals appeasement. Obama, Pelosi and Reid refuse to let go of Neville Chamberlain's umbrella.

They're not the only ones carrying brollies. The "new media" organs which created the cult of Obama are run by libertarians-in-disguise and by snooty, cappuccino-sipping Whole Foods shoppers who disdain the working class. Look and see: Markos Moulitsas, Arianna Huffington, Andrew Sullivan. These are the people who have helped to ruin the Democratic party.

We need a return to Roosevelt. A return to principles.

A new New Deal.

The Obama Democrats -- a breed which long preceded the advent of Obama himself -- have always allowed the Republicans to frame the issues. This damnable blundering must cease. Our enemies never begin with concession. They always seek to reconstruct the terms of debate.

In 2008, as the economy collapsed and the full scope of free market theft became clear, the world suddenly understood the dire results of unrestricted laissez faire. Pundits said that the Republican party would either become more moderate or fall into dust.

Today, the apostles of Ayn Rand stand poised to take over all three branches of government. How did they accomplish this task? By changing the terrain. By refusing to accept the political landscape as it then stood.

We must do likewise.

Right now, we are in the germinal stage. Your help is needed.

What should be the ten guiding principles of the New Deal?

(As a postscript, let me add this personal note. I intend to help the New Deal movement get started -- and then I'll step away. An eccentric and ornery writer should not form associations. Blogging becomes no fun when one must watch every word for fear that an unpopular opinion may taint others. So fair warning: Once the tyke can stand on his or her own, I'll be a runaway father. But that's a consideration for the future.)
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One possible guiding principle might be:

The most for the most.

It's insane how much of the income in this country goes to the fewest people.

Carolyn Kay
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"The people who build the shopping malls must be paid enough to buy in the shopping malls."
 
Our problem is not to find a non-Obama. (Almost any decent half witted Democrat is.) We have to go back to Ohio and Pennsylvania. We may even want to go where Howard Dean wants to go, to New Orleans and Bimingham Alabama.

We have to remember that we had a hero after FDR, this is Cesar Chavez. We need to support migrant workers and not only engineers (the so called middle class).

We need to stop hating Palin and Fox TV; Tea Party mobs and Israelis. There is way too much constructive work to do.

Until then, bring in the orgsnizers. A leader will come out of the process (hopefully); there is no need to resurrect Gore or Clark.
 
Go for it! We need an economic justice party.
 
Here's a three plank, nine word platform that will provide a rock solid foundation to your effort(via danps):

1. Medicare For All.
2. End The Wars.
3. Soak The Rich.
 
!!!
 
One of the basic axioms of the new New Deal should be:

Government is the only solution to the problems we created by treating government as the problem.
 
And what Anglachel said, "Fairness, Dignity, Respect."
 
Policy alone won't do it. Constructively replacing Obama requires an electoral strategy.

A strategy with a real chance to succeed requires two words and roughly two "deals." The necessary two words are: Prosecute Torture.

Those are the words that will allow any "New Deal" candidate to start with a large segment of Dem primary voters. Torture is the wedge, the euphemedia catnip, and what really is the fundament of all the rest. Nothing else will sufficiently tap the latent anger.

Any number of recognizable names could take up the mantle (Dean, Gore, Webb, Hagel, Feingold, Clark), but without the anti-torture stand, it's likely a non-starter (sorry wonks).

Secondly, the "New Deal" must be offered beyond the Dem party. The campaign should start with the Dem primary, but must make it clear that it will continue into the general.

This is crucial to garner the None of the Above portion of the electorate. And to insure "relevancy" by providing an option for independents and disaffected Repubs come the general election.

That's were "deals" with existing third parties should be made -- to run as their anti-DC candidates. Ideally one would be with the Greens -- offering them control of environmental policy. The other(s) deals would be less clear, but something might be workable with the Libertarians or others. But having the New Deal candidate as the nominee for as many "outsider" groups as possible will reinforce the change/policy message.

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At least three of the principles had better be Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.

As before, It's the economy, stupid.

By 2012, discounting a miracle, it will be even more so.

And I still think Hillary is the most credible competition. She already got more primary votes than Obama did. Had the press celebrated her strong wins at even half the volume of his dubious ones, she'd have had the momentum.

As for Wikileaks, the type of naive progs disturbed by realpolitik were in the Obama camp anyway, and she still almost won.

By 2012, the pendulum will be swinging back to blue. Rational Republicans are already horrified by the pending Tea Party caucus. Indys will be too. I can see them eager to nominate someone with guts enough to be a strong counterpoint. And just as in recent elections, lots of former Obama enthusiasts will decide to stay home.
 
>>We have to go back to Ohio and Pennsylvania.

In Ohio, Ted Strickland is already planning a move to bring back progressive policies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/03/ted-strickland-john-kasich-ohio-next-steps_n_791212.html

Ed Rendell is from Pennsylvania, and I wish we could talk him into running a primary against Obama.

I like jm's three points, but rather than "soak the rich", we might want to say that the the rich should pay their fair share. Since they own more, they use more governmental services. So they should pay more.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
I like Anglachel's
Fairness
Dignity
Respect
 
OooooOOOoo! Cue the Twilight Zone music. It looks like we're all feeding off each other's thoughts. Spooooky. I swear I didn't see this post until just now. I beat you to the domain name ForDemocraticReform though. yep, we took it back in 2008. Just consider us ahead of the game.
 
Riverdaughter, FDR is a great name for a site. If you (or anyone else on your team) want to participate in the New Deal site, please please do!

I snagged www.NewDealDems.com. Right now, there's nothing there. But a week from now...

And I'll say to you what I said to Dakinikat and others: I don't want to run this thing, at least not for long.

When you are in charge of a project, you have to be nice to people. I am, by nature, a surly ass. It's part of my uncharm. For the past couple of weeks, I've actually tried to be NICE to everyone (mostly because of the Chalice project) -- and it's freakin' KILLING me!

If the New Deal project takes off, and I think it will, it would be nice to have it in the hands of people who are not necessarily honkified penis-monsters. So that's why I tell you and others -- I don't want you to JOIN the New Deal movement. I want you to LEAD it.

Personally, I would prefer to curl up in an attic and draw comic books. God DAMN Obama and the teabaggers for forcing me to get involved with the outside world.
 
One more thing, riverdaughter -- the New Deal movement is going to have to include a lot of people who never liked Hillary. This is meant to be the left-wing version of the tea party movement, and you can't build a thing like that and remain exclusionary.

We'll need numbers. Among those numbers will be a lot of people who have pissed off you and me.

I don't think that Hillary will run. She said that she is done, and I believe her. But if she DOES run, then the New Deal movement (assuming that there is such a movement) should support her whole-heartedly.
 
I'm staunchly independent and would prefer no political parties myself. But it seems to me that there may be enough disillusioned Democrats that may be willing to support the green party Ten Key Values of the Green Party http://bit.ly/faWUzX
 
Here's a few links that may be helpful to draw from or for ideas. I've marked those from my blog. There's no advertising, sign-up or any other method for me to profit from any of these links. Being new here I figure my best role would be just to provide resources for others, and I can learn more about you as the project unfolds.

Green Party Platform: Democracy - Powered by Google Docs http://bit.ly/ezgpaT

My blog: Radical campaign finance and election reform http://bit.ly/bX5SCO

My blog: World View http://bit.ly/3MzEhP

My blog: Nobody asked me, but here’s my solutions http://bit.ly/g6AJ1I

My Blog: Campaign Finance Reform In Less Than 140 Characters http://bit.ly/cHOPYV

http://www.facebook.com/TeapotParty

http://www.facebook.com/americanprogressiveparty

Let me know if you have any questions or would like additional resources.

I'm on twitter at http://twitter.com/emperor_bob don't send me a direct message, never read them.
 
Alan Greyson and Dennis Kucinich in 2012...And God be with them!!!
 
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Friday, December 03, 2010

Which Democrat will run against Obama?

Riverdaughter of the Confluence has an excellent post up today. She links, in turn, to pieces by Paul Krugman, Anglachel and Ian Welsh. All four writers sound variations of the same theme: Obama has wounded -- is wounding, will continue to wound -- the Democratic base. Enough is enough. A primary challenge is mandatory.

I disagree with Riverdaughter on this point:
Because, like it or not, there is only one person *at the present time* who can take on Obama and win. Even if you are still suffering from CDS psychosis, I urge Obots for the sake of UNITY to join with us and push back.
The reference goes to Hillary, of course. Alas, she will be -- perhaps already is -- too tainted by her links to this administration.

The "Obama as socialist" canard, though utterly insane, has penetrated the American psyche. Any primary challenger who hopes to prevail in the general must therefore package herself or himself as a new Democrat, as an anti-Obama Democrat -- as, God help us, an anti-socialist Democrat.

Hillary can't do that. She reeks of Obama's funk.

Then there's the damage to Hillary's reputation wrought by the Wikileaks data dump -- which, by the by, has not yet run its course.

No, it won't be her. Sorry. Who, then?

Two obvious names come to mind: Al Gore and Wesley Clark.

Al Gore, sorry to say, has been tainted by allegations of sexual misconduct. The "massage groping" claim may have some validity, and will likely injure his appeal to female voters -- especially if he were to run against a female Republican nominee. There is some talk that his marriage ended due to an affair with another woman. I don't know if the story is accurate and I don't really care. But after the John Edwards imbroglio, who wants to revisit such tawdry territory?

Clark is not my favorite candidate. And he's not a young man. A lingering rumor holds that he had some link to the planning of the Waco siege. Although I have seen no evidence for this claim, any sudden disclosures along these lines could do serious political harm.

Aside from that, he has many points in his favor. First: He's a military man from the south. Although he won't win any states down in Dixie, his military background will blunt the enthusiasm of all but the craziest teabaggers. He opposed the Iraq war. He is pro-choice. He's pretty good on the environment. He has been consistent in his opposition to a strike against Iran.

Before we go any further, let us savor an historical irony: In 2004, Joe Lieberman said that Clark's decision to register as a Democrat was due to "political convenience, not conviction."

Joe Lieberman said that. Joe Lieberman, ladies and gentlemen.

Clark may not have the ability to hypnotize the Kos krazies the way Obama did -- women won't swoon at his rallies -- but he's one Democrat with built-in protection against the "socialist" smear. The word just won't stick.

Outside of these two obvious choice, what possibilities do we see?

Well, there's Howard Dean. My main problem with Dean is that he still reeks of Moulitsas.

Evan Bayh is unnervingly hawkish on Iran. His sudden decision not to seek a third term in the Senate (despite oodles of money and a lead in the polls) led to speculation about a skeletonized closet. His last-minute decision to drop out made it impossible for any other Democrat to get on the primary ballot. This move cannot have endeared him to the party.

One outsider worth considering is Peter DeFazio of Oregon. He opposed TARP. He opposed the stimulus bill. He was the first Democrat to call for the firing of Larry Summers and Tim Geithner. He is a strong opponent of free trade agreements.

All of this means that he can position himself as the UnObama. He has taken positions pleasing to the party base -- yet his voting record instantly disarms tea-stained attackers. In fact, he has railed against what he calls "corporate socialism," which is the sort of rhetoric that could impress certain factions within the teabagger movement.

DeFazio opposed the Iraq invasion. He offers serious opposition to free trade agreements such as NAFTA. He did honorable military service. He is "reasonably religious." He opposes gun control. He comes from a "purple" state, not a true-blue one -- a largely rural state populated by guys who hunt, drink good beer and wear plaid flannel shirts.

The vote against the stimulus bill may play out in odd ways, because the bill as it exists in the public imagination differs from the actual legislation. Incessant tea party propaganda has convinced much of the populace that the stim bill was somehow "Marxist." In fact, it was largely a matter of tax cuts to individuals and corporations. Almost nothing in that bill went to jobs creation; an insufficient $100 million went to infrastructure.

DeFazio opposed the legislation because he felt that cutting taxes at a time of falling revenue would worsen the deficit. Which it did. Thus, the fact that he voted against the bill may play well with the right, while his reason for that vote may play well with the left.

As I wrote earlier:
No-other left-wing Democrat -- not even Kucinich -- has so consistently and loudly opposed Obama's economic mismanagement. In 2012, many disillusioned progressives who had once backed Obama will thank all of heaven's angels that Peter DeFazio has compiled such a principled resume.
His major problem is one of image: He is not a stirring speaker, and he looks like he should be playing a grocery clerk in a '60s sitcom. (His face could benefit from a beard. Something Sebastian Cabot-ish.)

In many other ways, however, he's a good choice. I think that this could be the guy.
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To be a credible primary candidate, someone would need an ability to raise a lot of cash.

Except for Hillary, I can think of nobody able to do that (in their current incarnations). Howard Dean, when he was the latest thing, had the fund raising ability, but it's quite doubtful now, IMO.

If that's right, then any primary entrant would be engaging in a quixotic bid lacking in winning potential, while probably assuring an Obama loss (usually a significant primary challenge is associated with deposing a sitting president, ala Ted Kennedy v. Carter, or Pat Buchanan v. GHW Bush). Of course, it might be reverse causation, that a sitting president was going to lose, which prompted the primary challenge in the first place.

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Seriously what do people thinks diplomats do besides looking pretty? If this outrage against Hillary is genuine then we have a lot of naive and uninformed folks out there. If it is a fake outrage, as I suspect to take aim at her then we should try to get to the bottom of why now (not that it ever stopped). I bet it will not take more than 2 sec to reach a conclusion
 
There's no point to primary Obama. He has a lock of the black vote, and anyone who primaries Obama would lose the black vote in the general election. The Democratic Party would be divided and black voters would stay home. If Obama decides or is told by the Democratic leadership that there's no support for him, then Hillary has the best chance to win in 2012 against the GOP. Her problem is getting the Democratic nomination. DeFazio is great and I would be extremely happy to support him, but he can't win purple states. If Hillary doesn't run in 2012, we might as well start accepting that the next president will be a Republican. Hillary is not tainted by the cables or having served as SOS in the Obama administration.
 
Evan Bayh. He's raising money as I type. I guess for a run at "governor" but i don't buy it. An attack from the left is silly at this point. The logical assault must come from the middle. A re-run of 2008 but this time BHO will not have the free love of the media and the DNC. Obama will quit by April of 2012 like LBJ if Bayh consolidates Hillary Dems.
The black vote will support obama in the primary. Without it a run from the Left is useless.
 
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I don't think that black voters are particularly happy with Obama right now. They were wary of him at one time; they may well regain their wariness.

In the spirit of 2008, let me add this: If you don't support Peter DeFazio, there can be only one possible reason. You hate Italians.

That's just sad.
 
Three words:

Carol Moseley Braun.

Ms. Vandal.
 
I think we have to look for alternatives. I believe Hillary Clinton this time--she's not going to run again. Though I don't think she's been fatally smeared/wounded by the Obama Administration, I think she's made up her mind. Yes, I know pols historically swear they're not running and then make a U-turn. But these last two statements managed to convince me. She's had it and I can't blame her.

DeFazio is an interesting suggestion. He certainly has the record and right positions. But I also think you're comment that he looks like "a grocery clerk in a 60s sitcom" is sadly on the money. And I hate saying that because appearance shouldn't make any difference but we all know it does. Add that to a less than stellar speaking presence and we're on a track to disappointmentville.

I don't know where this is going. But Obama is clearly a disaster, something I'm sure many here saw from the start. I certainly did. The Republicans have no new ideas, just the same miserable roadmap to failure, cementing the oligarchs firmly into place.

I'm generally an optimist by nature. But as far as where we appear to be headed as a country? I'm just not.

Btw, I've always liked Wesley Clark.
 
russ feingold?
 
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Another name of interest to me is Jim Webb, though I don't really know that much about him.
http://www.truth-out.org/article/jim-webb-class-struggle
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/11/08/jim_webb_why_reagan_dems_still_matter_107875.html
He's too far to the right on many issues, but in other ways represents "traditional Democratic values". However, I doubt he'd be able to raise sufficient funds, and he's probably focused on the 2012 race (likely to be tight) to hold his Senate seat.

In many ways, Peter DeFazio might be the best choice - but these days, I think a grocery clerk really can't get elected. However, given the economic situation (the actual dislocated/anxious/desperate situation in ordinary people's lives - as opposed to the MSM coverage, which predominantly just reflects the insulated experience of privileged elites), perhaps he'd have an outside shot.

On a note that's only tangentially related - regarding Anglachel's apt phrase "Whole Foods Nation" - I noticed a fascinating little item in the comments at TC the other day (HT Sandra S):
Research shows that people who "buy green" are less likely to be kind to others, and more likely to cheat and steal.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/15/green-consumers-more-likely-steal
Some people that I've talked to find this surprising, but I don't. "Green consumers" are enriched for people from more privileged backgrounds ( = somewhat more manipulative), and many people "buy green" to look good (and feel morally superior about themselves) = appearance, hipness. Though buying green is obviously the right thing to do, and I try to do it myself whenever feasible, I'm not surprised by the finding. I suspect "Whole Foods Nation" would not be especially supportive of DeFazio (he doesn't even look like a grocery clerk at the right type of store).
 
Another name of interest to me is Jim Webb, though I don't really know that much about him.
http://www.truth-out.org/article/jim-webb-class-struggle
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/11/08/jim_webb_why_reagan_dems_still_matter_107875.html
He's too far to the right on many issues, but in other ways represents "traditional Democratic values". However, I doubt he'd be able to raise sufficient funds, and he's probably focused on the 2012 race (likely to be tight) to hold his Senate seat.

In many ways, Peter DeFazio might be the best choice - but these days, I think a grocery clerk really can't get elected. However, given the economic situation (the actual dislocated/anxious/desperate situation in ordinary people's lives - as opposed to the MSM coverage, which predominantly just reflects the insulated experience of privileged elites), perhaps he'd have an outside shot.
 
On a note that's only tangentially related - regarding Anglachel's apt phrase "Whole Foods Nation" - I noticed a fascinating little item in the comments at TC the other day (hat tip Sandra S)
Research shows that people who "buy green" are less likely to be kind to others, and more likely to cheat and steal.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/15/green-consumers-more-likely-steal
Some people that I've talked to find this surprising, but I don't. "Green consumers" are enriched for people from more privileged backgrounds (equals somewhat more manipulative), and many people "buy green" to look good (and feel morally superior about themselves) which equals appearance, hipness. Though buying green is obviously the right thing to do, and I try to do it myself whenever feasible, I'm not surprised by the finding. I suspect "Whole Foods Nation" would not be especially supportive of DeFazio (he doesn't even look like a grocery clerk at the right type of store).

If this comment shows up more than once, please remove the redundant copies (something in this text appears to be interfering with submission, so I had to resend it).
 
Clinton was the first black president. Obama is just another white president. That is the problem. We thought we were electing a black president but he abandoned that base and every other base during the last two years. Nominate someone to the right? What is the point?

I think we have to fact the fact, however, that this is not a nation of progressives and any person who truly demonstrated progressive values would be defeated even if we won the primary.

In short, we are screwed regardless of what we do.

Even so, I voted for Hillary in the primary and would vote for her again. I think she has the cojones that Obama lacks even if she is not significantly to the left of Obama.
 
I lived in DeFazio's district for a number of years, and he is pretty universally well liked there. I have voted for him and would again. I did write him an angry letter about publicly supporting Obama with his vote before our state primary election, because I thought he should have at least waited until after the voters had their chance to make their voices heard. Regardless of that, I think he would be a good candidate to run for president. I agree with his politics and he doesn't roll over very easily.

Good to see you back, Joe!
 
Andrew Romanoff. He has been a consistent liberal, yet was able to gain democratic majorities in both of Colorado's houses. He is disillusioned enough to run after being tossed to the side for Bennett. Also, he ran a primary campaign against Bennett and almost won. He did not take one cent of PAC or corporate money and only lost because of the big bucks Benett and the DNC threw in. He won every Democratic caucus in the state by double digits. But he had no money for teevee, Bennett had milions.

He is handsome and charismatic. And nice. This is important. And he is a true believer.
 
What image problems? He reminds me of Mario of the computer game which is wildly popular with my grandchildren.
 
"A historic" is proper grammar, sir. "An historic" is neither "cute" nor sophisticated. Please look up the word "historic" in the dictionary to see how it is pronounced. This will clue you in to how the word should be preceded.


Secondly, I wonder what causes you to believe that President Obama isn't a Socialist at all. More government control, bigger government, redistribution of wealth, need I go on?
 
Not that anyone is reading such an old thread -- but you, sir, are a fool. You have no idea what the word "socialist" even means. Like most Randroid idiots, you think that anything not 100% Ayn-approved is "socialist." Look: Government is not bigger, government employees are fewer, social services have been lessened, wealth has been redistributed from the poor to the wealthy, and the captains of Wall Street have pretty much run the show. If you think Tim Geithner and Larry Summers are socialists, your definition of that word is so nutty you could probably think of a justification for calling Milton Friedman a socialist.

Assholes like you are ineducable. If your ideological training forces you to see green as orange, you shall see nothing but orange, despite all the obvious evidence of green-ness.

Oh: "An historic" and "A historic" are both acceptable usages, although "a historic" is preferred.

http://www.betterwritingskills.com/tip-w005.html
 
I have been searching and searching to find out if someone any one will run against Obama. I think that they would have a really good chance, nobody is really very happy with Obama. I am not.But to even consider a rebupican is pretty scary now looking at all the fighting and crazies that are there this time, every time. But we need something different, Obama is not working. Somebosy please run, give me someone to vote for. I have voted in every election since I turned 18, I do not want to not vote because there is no choices.Is there some way to get the word out that we want, no NEED an alternative to Obama or GOP. A petition , something. HELP
 
If Obama had competition, I do not think that he would win. He is not popular at all, nobody is happy with his actions. Who ever steps up to the plate will have a really good chance as the GOP is having it's tiffs about religion, totally disregarding the separtaion of church and state. Obama has sold out worse than anyone could have imagined, we need an option. I would give money and I don't have any extra to give, but I would not like to see the country I have always called home and voted in every election since I was 18 in go down the drain faster than it is. HELP
 
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Thursday, December 02, 2010

More proof that black people can be sell-outs too -- Or: The strange case of the purchased Panther

I chose a deliberately provocative title. A headline about net neutrality might have served this piece just as well...but it wouldn't have made so sharp a point.

Please meet Congressman Bobby Rush, pictured on your left. He hails from Illinois. Interestingly, he is the only person in history (so far) to defeat Barack Obama for elective office. This quote, from that 2000 race, bears repeating:
"Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Barack is a person who read about the civil-rights protests and thinks he knows all about it."
Rush truly does know all about it: As a young man, he took part in civil disobedience campaigns in the segregated south and helped to found the Black Panthers. He voted the right way on Iraq.

So far, I like this guy. But.

Rush now has something in common with the teabaggers: He wants to end net neutrality.

The teabaggers are conducting a massively deceptive propaganda campaign on this issue. They want to convince the populace that net neutrality is some strange new "socialistic" scheme by which Barack Obama hopes to achieve control of the internet. The truth: Net neutrality is the way things are right now.

The opponents of net neutrality hope to get rid of our present system, where the funded and unfunded -- the big and the small -- have equal standing on the web. The monster corporations want to replace this happy land of equal opportunity with a new scheme called tiered service.

Under this proposed plan, websites from big corporations will load up super-fast, while websites from Charlie Nobodies will load slowly, or not at all. Unless you're willing to pony up big dough, fewer eyeballs will see your internet offerings. Ordinary folk will probably have to pay higher monthly internet bills in order to access sites like the one you're reading right now.

The likely results: Ruination for small business. The end of cheap VOIP telephone service. Political debate will be restricted.

You know damned well that the websites run by (for instance) Andy "Big Asshole" Brietbart will load up immediately, while unfunded websites will putter and sputter like a Model T running on corn syrup. Right now, on the left side of the internet, Daily Kos and The Confluence reach your retinas with equal speed. If net neutrality dies, it'll be all Moulitsas, all the time. Hell, we'll be lucky to get that.

The people pushing this crap offer casuistic and deceptive arguments. They tell us that a tiered internet will offer more rapid downloads of movies and TV content. Sure, you'll give up your internet freedom -- but hey, you'll get FOX News faster. So it all evens out, right?

What the propagandists don't tell you is that broadband already works much faster in other countries than in the U.S. Right now, if you're in the UK, you can watch high-def programming from the BBC over the internet in real time -- and the shows look great.

Other nations did not have to give up net neutrality in order to achieve lightning-fast download speeds, so why should we?

The big communications companies have spent heavily to purchase lawmakers. Among the recipients of this largesse, I am sorry to say, is Bobby Rush.

He wants to become the ranking member of the House Subcommittee on Communications, Technology, and the Internet. At the moment, the leading Democrat on that committee is Rick Boucher. The Republicans will take over next year -- and you know damned well that they will stand united against net neutrality. Rush will stand with the GOP and the teabaggers.

A group called Color of Change, headed by one James Rucker, doesn't want Nancy Pelosi to give Rush this appointment. Rucker hopes that you will call Pelosi's office -- (202) 225-4965; (415) 556-4862 -- and tell her to avoid the Rush:
“I have grave doubts that Congressman Rush is capable of being an honest broker on important telecommunications matters,” Rucker, who headed grassroots mobilization for MoveOn.org Political Action from 2003-2005, wrote. “AT&T, America’s oldest and largest telecommunications company, has long been one of the largest donors to Congressman Rush’s campaign committee and leadership PAC.

“In addition, from 2001 to 2004 the company donated $1 million to a community center Rush founded in Chicago – an off-the-books donation that could lead one to wonder about the prospect of quid pro quo regarding the Congressman and AT&T,” Rucker added.

During his congressional career, Rush has received $78,964 from AT&T. The telecom giant is Rush’s second largest career contributor, which is also true for the leading Republican candidate to run the committee, Fred Upton (R-Michigan). Rush’s other top donors include the National Cable and Telecommunications Association ($43,499), and Verizon ($42,000), according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
As Jerry Brown (between governorships) once told Gore Vidal during a broadcast interview: "It's amazing how little we sell out for." Those words apply across the whole of Congress, good and bad, D and R.

So why did I choose the "in your face" headline that stands atop this post? Because some Rush defenders have chosen to racialize the issue. Their argument: Bobby Rush is an African American who did laudable work in previous years -- therefore he can't possibly be corrupt now.
Using the old, “you can’t trust them because they take money from corporations trick”, the group’s executive director James Rucker asks Democratic House leader Nancy Pelosi to oppose Rush’s candidacy...
That's a trick? A freakin' trick?!? Jesus H. Kee-rist, who writes this gunk -- Maxwell Smart?

Here's how Rush's defenders describe Color of Change:
Color of Change is a 5-year old advocacy group that is known best for its ground-breaking work on three campaigns: 1. assisting the Jenna 6 defendants get the case dropped against them; 2. helping Hurricane Katrina victims’ and 3. organizing an internet campaign that resulted in some corporate sponsors pulling out from sponsoring Glenn Beck’s Fox News television show over the race baiting Beck does on his show.
Sounds good to me. One doesn't have to reach back across decades to find positive things on this resume. But the Rush backers are not impressed.
Let’s see… hmmm. Who to trust? Who to believe?

The head of a 5-year old group that has abandoned its previous mission of empowering people of color through real tangible means in exchange for championing one issue about arcane network prioritization, a “problem” that is NOT on the minds of any jobless, undereducated, disempowered and underemployed person of color…

or...
Or Bobby Rush. For all of the man's previous accomplishments, the fact remains: Power corrupts.

As long-time readers may know, one of my pet theories holds that the movie Lawrence of Arabia contains a quotation appropriate to every occasion. In this case, the quote comes during an early scene between Peter O'Toole and Anthony Quinn: "The servant is the one who takes the money."

Rush takes the money. Even his defenders admit it.

True, the jobless and the under-educated may not have net neutrality uppermost on their minds right now -- but that's only because they haven't heard the news about what lies ahead, or because they can't visualize the pay-to-play internet that the big corporations have in store for us. They don't understand that the telecoms want internet service to be like cable TV: For a certain price you get certain websites; for a higher price you get even more websites...

The end of net neutrality will be another libertarian nightmare. It will be the ultimate disempowerment device. Minorities will be hit particularly hard by a new internet in which the axiom "money talks" determines which sites pop into your browser.

Yeah, my skin is white and Rush's is black. So? In the end, this issue is not about black or white -- it's about green.

The servant is the one who takes the money.
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I agree with your general position, but you do not seem to understand the actual net neutrality issues. For one thing, we do NOT have a system right now. We are defacto semi-net neutral, but any of the large last mile providers could introduce tiering plans tomorrow if they wanted. Tiering, btw, has always existed at the backbone level. A system needs to be put in place that supports net neutrality, and the fight currently is to keep that system from being put in place. The principal opponents of Net Neutrality laws are generally--though not always--the last mile providers whose cable networks and iptv delivery systems are in direct competition with services like Netflix, Amazon and iTunes. You know, AT&T, Comcast, etc. The proponents of Net Neutrality laws tend to be large non-traditional content providers like Apple, Google, and the like.

Your argument about thin sites like blogs being seriously effected is not particularly sound. Its the large files that are at issue here, not wisps of html.
This battle is going to be primarily fought over last mile entertainment delivery.
 
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Wikileaks and Honduras

Most of you have not paid the slightest attention to the last year's coup in Honduras. You should. For at least four reasons:

1. Wikileaks released a July 24, 2009 State Department memo which makes clear that the Obama administration knew full well that the Honduran military acted illegally when it removed the (mildly) left-leaning Honduran president Mel Zelaya. Obama tried to square the circle -- tepidly condemning the coup while continuing to do business as usual with the new (extra-legal and despotic) government.

This all happened on Obama's watch. And on Hillary's, sorry to say.

2. The administration's lukewarm and vague response to the coup managed to piss off both the right and the left. Tea party types castigate Obama as a friend to Zelaya, whom the rightists (predictably and stupidly) picture as the very incarnation of Marxism. Meanwhile, many people in Central and South America consider Obama the secret author of the action against Zelaya.

One side damns Obama as a commie; the other side damns him as an imperialist bastard. It takes talent to fuck up on that level.

3. The "imperialist bastard" label is probably much closer to the truth.

The real powers behind the coup were two companies, Dole and Chiquita. Chiquita was previously known as United Fruit -- and if that name doesn't ring any bells, you should read up on your CIA history.

Zelaya pissed off these firms when he moved to raise the minimum wage above bare subsistence. This article by John Perkins tells the story...
I was told by a Panamanian bank vice president, “Every multinational knows that if Honduras raises its hourly rate, the rest of Latin America and the Caribbean will have to follow. Haiti and Honduras have always set the bottom line for minimum wages. The big companies are determined to stop what they call a ‘leftist revolt’ in this hemisphere. In throwing out Zelaya they are sending frightening messages to all the other presidents who are trying to raise the living standards of their people.”
Here's a cute little data-point you probably didn't know:
President Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder had been a Covington partner and a defender of Chiquita when the company was accused of hiring “assassination squads” in Colombia (Chiquita was found guilty, admitting that it had paid organizations listed by the US government as terrorist groups “for protection” and agreeing in 2004 to a $25 million fine).
(The firm of Covington and Burling lobbies for Chiquita.)

Eric Holder, Larry Summers, Tim Geithner -- guys like that can be found all over Team O. Yet half the American population thinks that Obama is some sort of socialist. That's because half the population is bugfuck nuts.

4. On a deeper level, this coup is about drugs -- the great unmentionable factor in American politics. (The trade takes in $300 billion annually.) Zelaya took real action against the drug lords, which may have been his greatest "sin." Colombia's drug thugs use Honduras as a trans-shipment point.

Most people in the United States would be shocked to learn that Chiquita's ships have transported cocaine. Our neighbors to the south are better educated about such things. Dig:
Drug enforcement agents and customs officials in Belgium and the United Kingdom found a total of more than a ton of almost pure cocaine hidden in at least seven Chiquita ships in 1997, according to European custom services and Chiquita sources.

The seized cocaine is worth up to $33 million in its pure form, and valued at more than $100 million if sold on the streets, according to Van Quarles of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency in Washington, D.C.
Spokesmen for the DEA, and customs agencies in Belgium and United Kingdom, confirmed that sei-zures of illegal drugs there in 1997 were made on Chiquita ships and not on those of its competitors, such as Del Monte, Dole or the Irish company Fyffes, that also ship fruit from South and Central America.
Also see this piece from last July about a lawsuit against Chiquita:
These plaintiffs come right out and accuse Chiquita of direct involvement in drug and weapons shipments, to demonstrate a close link between the Chiquita payments and other actions, on the one hand, and acts of kidnapping and murder, on the other.
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This morning, a press release popped into my inbox. That's not unusual; most press releases can safely be ignored. But this one -- from something called the International Action Center’s Committee in Solidarity with Latin America & the Caribbean -- makes for genuinely interesting reading. Yeah, you'll find some lefty boilerplate here, but there are also many points which deserve further investigation.

The bottom line of this argument comes to this: The Obama administration engineered the coup.

Will Markos Moulitsas allow any mention of this on Daily Kos? Will any so-called "progressives" shout "Oh my God! Get this to Keith!"? I doubt it.

And away we go:

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Latin American solidarity and anti-imperialist activists around the world, as well as the people of Latin America did not need WikiLeaks’ “leaked” documents to tell them what they already knew: the U.S. government was well aware that the June 28, 2009 ouster of democratically and legitimately elected President Jose Manuel Zelaya of Honduras was illegal and unconstitutional.

This “leaked” information however is far from the whole story.

Not only did the U.S. government know that the ouster and kidnapping of President Zelaya was against all kinds of legal and political norms, there is ample proof that sections of the U.S. government and Pentagon were behind the coup.

The 2000 cables on Honduras are part of over 250,000 cables that WikiLeaks provided to several mainstream media outlets including The New York Times. Information revealed include documents that expose the fact that the “US is using its embassies around the world as part of a global spy network and asking diplomats to gather intelligence.” Somehow this is shocking “new” information.

It is not known, however, how many “Top Secret” documents have never been revealed. In addition, none of the media outlets that received the information are actual critics of U.S. imperialism.

The Obama administration and the bourgeois media are nonetheless up in arms about the leaks, which are said to be sending shock waves throughout the diplomatic world.

The mainstream media is repeating again and again how the leaks are placing U.S. soldiers and other government representatives in danger, somehow overlooking the fact that it is war and imperialist intervention that puts U.S. soldiers in harms’ way, not information about the lies used to justify the war.

US Imperialism & Latin America


For countless decades, U.S. imperialism has treated Latin America as its “backyard.” The U.S. government has found innumerable ways to intervene in the region. All its plans have been made in order to dominate and control the area, exploit its workers and steal its riches.

When the people’s struggles get in the way of U.S. plans, imperialism will stop at nothing to continue its domination.

U.S. aims in Honduras are no exception.

The take in several news sources on the WikiLeaks released documents are that U.S. Embassy officials spin on the June 2009 developments in Honduras prevented cutting aid to Honduras at the time. The U.S. embassy in Tegucigalpa refrained from calling the kidnapping and ouster of President Zelaya a “military” coup. By merely calling it a “coup” U.S. aid could continue.

The coup was condemned by every multilateral Latin American body, as well as the United Nations, the European Union and many others. The Organization of American States and the UN General Assembly called for the immediate and unconditional return of President Zelaya. Most Latin American governments, including Venezuela and Bolivia, refused to recognize the government after the coup.

The U.S. Ambassador to Honduras at the time was Hugo Llorens, a well known enemy of the peoples’ struggle in Latin America. Llorens is Cuban American and very hostile to the Cuban Revolution.

The cable he signed dated July 24, 2009 said that elements in the Honduran legislative and judicial branches “"conspired" with the military to remove Zelaya from power. Llorens also admitted that President Zelaya’s letter of resignation was a pure fabrication.

But Llorens will not admit U.S. military complicity in the coup, which he knows about and may have even organized.

Well-known researcher Eva Golinger however demonstrates how in the weeks after the coup the U.S. base Soto Cano in Honduras played a fundamental role in the downfall of President Zelaya.

And according to many sources, including Rolando Valenzuela, a minister in Zelaya’s government who was assassinated in Honduras after the coup, Llorens knew about the coup before it occurred.

On November 29, 2010 exiled President Zelaya said the leaked cable demonstrated "complicity" in the coup on the part of the U.S.

The resistance in Honduras also writes about the WikiLeaks information:

“The transnational media outlets would never dare to seriously damage the interests of the U.S. The first important Tegucigalpa cable dated 2009-07-24 appeared in El Pais clearly shows a dismissal of significant information of the story told from viewpoint of Hugo Llorens in which he appears to be arguing on the basis of only one topic; the golpistas’ argument on the legality of the coup as if they never made it to sell a credible story on the Honduras crisis.

“The message seems to focus blame on how the oligarchy of Honduras failed on doing a smarter job completely. However, we wonder, is this really something we would have had to wait years or decades to see otherwise?” End of quote from Honduras.

Solidarity with Honduras resistance decisive


The U.S. role in Honduras is not just an exercise in constitutional law.

There is a bloodbath going on in Honduras today. Unionists, teachers, students, campesinos, women and youth are being beaten, tortured, killed, disappeared and exiled. An illegal government is carrying out U.S. imperialism aims in order to hold back the peoples movement in Honduras.

President Manuel Zelaya attempted to put in place policies that would help the people, policies like raising the minimum wage and nationalizing certain industries. This terrified and angered capitalist interests, especially from the U.S.

This is why the coup occurred.

The coup also took place to send a message to the movements of Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and the country of Cuba: do not dare to fight back against U.S. imperialism.

Not only the people throughout Latin America but the people of Honduras are defying that message.

No illegal U.S. orchestrated coup will hold back the peoples struggle in Honduras or throughout Latin America. There is only one way out of the dire conditions the Latin American masses face: and that is the struggle for a better world, free of the shackles of U.S. imperialism.

Solidarity with Honduras and all the struggles in Latin America are decisive.

The movement in the U.S. is especially important, as it is this government that is behind all the misery in Latin America and the Caribbean as well as all the world. We cannot wait for another “leaked” document to raise the clarion call “U.S. imperialism out of Honduras! Victory to the Honduran Resistance!”
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Oh I've been paying attention. Have called the Honduras coup just that from day one, only to be ridiculed by my wonderful progressive "betters." God I am sick of the Democrats in every incarnation they may take on. Totally friggin disgusted with them all. (And no, the GOP is no better. Once again: Don't blame me; I voted Green.)

p.s. It is GREAT to haee you back!!
 
Señor Joseph, Thank you for this. I publish an online magazine in Costa Rica. Next issue has a long analysis of the Honduran Coup by Stan Goff, called Hillary Makes Her Bones(as in the Godfather series). May I have permission to use this post in the magazine (with full credit of course)?

You can see my mag at www.neotropica.info

Thanks.

Stephen Duplantier
 
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