Sunday, June 07, 2009

Boo, man: The bots STILL consider Hillary enemy #1

Absolutely vile.

What else can I say about Booman Tribune? They still keep spewing the canard that any liberal who criticizes the Lightbringer from Chicago must be a racist and a Hillary cultist.

This attitude persists even after Obama's many betrayals -- on the Wilson/Plame case, on FISA, on detention, on torture, on nationalization, on single payer health care, on the prosecution of Bush and Cheney, on Afghanistan and on so much else -- have caused many once-worshipful progs to wake up.

Why do the bots still go after Hillary and her aficionados? The reason is obvious: The Clintonites have no reason for apology and the Obots do. Bill Clinton was the finest President of the 20th century after FDR. Obama is shaping up to be the worst Democratic president since Johnson. Andrew Johnson.

Over on the Confluence, Dakinikat has contributed an excellent piece which touches on both ACORN and Wells Fargo's predatory lending practices. (The latter surprised me. I knew a Wells Fargo manager in the 1980s, and he was quite proud of his company's conservative stance on loans. Times have changed!) The reaction over on Booman?
These idiots will never get it. One of the people saying he's not so smart is someone named dakinikat who roused the rabble there a while back by blaming the mortgage crisis on black people. She blew all kinds of dog whistles in the post itself but forgot ACORN. She recovered quickly though by mentioning them in the comments. They're a gang of not too bright sore losers with a dose of racial resentment thrown in to make them especially awful.
I urge you to go read Dakinkat in the original. Then come back and tell me whether the afore-quoted precis of her words bears any relationship to reality. Dakinkat's amusing response:
I have to tell you, I'm sitting at BJ's in the ninth ward down here, round the corner from my house, and this post is getting so many laughs you can't believe it.

The big question every one wants to ask is if you live in a gated community some where up on the east coast?
Many black people live in the ninth ward of New Orleans. For some strange reason, Dkat's opponent refused to describe the place he calls home. Instead, he continued to insist that she was guilty of "internet race baiting exploits."

Again: Read her words and tell me if you see anything like "race baiting" in there. Obots are sick, sick, sick fucks.

Here's another snippet from the thread:
And I will never forget the stupid, irrational, childish, and even racist attacks on Obama from Clinton supporters.
This is an attempt at false equivalence: "Well, there were problems on both sides." I won't stand for that historical revisionism.

In many previous posts, I have documented the outrageous, non-stop hate-campaigns mounted by the Obot hordes. That mob mentality transformed this former half-hearted Obama supporter into a blogger determined to do whatever he could to prevent the Lightbringer from destroying the Democratic party -- a task which he is gleefully accomplishing at this very moment.

Booman actually went on to suggest that Hillary's alleged racism "put Jesse Helms to shame."

Unbelievable!

Booman has even compiled a list of quotes from Hillary and her supporters -- a list intended to prove that hers was a campaign founded on appeals to bigotry. All of Booman's nonsense was debunked ages ago. That doesn't matter: Taking a page from Atwater and Rove, Booman and his fellow Obots understand that a fib may enter history if repeated incessantly.

Let's deal with Booman's alleged "evidence":
Bill Shaheen:

In his remarks, Shaheen, a local attorney and Democratic powerbroker, said he was worried that Republicans would have a particularly easy time going after Obama's drug use as a teenager because he has been so open about it. He contrasted this with George W. Bush, who Shaheen said wisely ruled out answering questions about his behavior as a younger man during his presidential run in 1999 and 2000.

Obama's candor on the subject, on the other hand, would "open the door" to further questions, Shaheen had said. "It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" he said. "There are so many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome."
For some reason, BooMan expects us to consider this quote racist. He's nuts. Just plain bugfuck nuts.

Shaheen raised perfectly justifiable concerns that Obama's admitted drug usage might become a campaign issue. How is that racist?
Bob Kerrey:

"I've watched the blogs try to say that you can't trust [Obama] because he spent a little bit of time in a secular madrassa," the Nebraska Democrat said on the Situation Room with John King. "I feel quite opposite. I think it's a tremendous strength whether he's in the United States Senate or whether he's in the White House."
This is Kerrey's response to the Republicans who were spreading smear stories about Obama's schooling in Indonesia. In the first place, Bob Kerrey was not a player in the Hillary campaign. In the second place, the statement is absolutely accurate. In the third place, any rational person will understand it as a pro-Obama statement.

("Madrassa" is simply the Arabic word for "school." Kerrey seems to have been under the impression that Arabic is spoken in Indonesia -- the sole point on which he can be faulted.)

Another supposedly "damning" quote from the Hillary side:
Geraldine Ferraro:

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."
Absolutely true. My only problem with Ferraro's statement is her disdain for the subjunctive.

In previous posts, I have quoted polls which proved that a black male candidate has a distinct advantage over a female candidate of any race. Ferraro had data on her side; her critics never did.

To repeat an argument I've made before: How many black males have held congressional seats? How many females? How many cities have had black mayors? How many have had female mayors? During the campaign, one could buy a doll of Hillary dressed as a Dominatrix, yet no-one would dare to sell a figurine of Barack dressed as a minstrel.

Of course, when the Republicans picked Sarah Palin, the folks on Kos had no problem saying that she was picked only because she was a woman. Some of them even said that she was irresponsible to pursue politics instead of being a full-time mother.

Obama gained a teflon coating because his followers constantly hurled the "racist" accusation at anyone who said anything against him. That's how he won the nomination and everyone knows it. I am not a racist for daring to speak this truth. The true racists were the ones who provided the teflon.

If Obama were white, the "I barely knew Tony Rezko" lie or the NAFTA lie would have knocked him out of the race. Why is it that Joe Biden's 1988 presidential campaign ended when he was caught out as a plagiarist, yet Obama suffered no political consequences for far worse word-burglaries? New rules were put in place for Obama: Plagiarism suddenly became a minor matter -- "just words."

How the hell did someone like this -- with his onion-skin thin resume, his poor Senate record, his criminal associations, his outrageous history of facial multiplicity and his record of constant lying -- ever become president? How did he get a rep as an Iraq war opponent even though he was too cowardly to speak out against the war during his 2004 Senate campaign, and even though he refused to denounce the invasion during his 2004 DNC speech, and even though he established an Iraq war voting record demonstrably to the right of Hillary's?

I'll tell you how: Obama was protected by a Kossack corps convinced that voting for a black man earned both hipness points and life-long protection from ever being called a racist. Well, I've voted for black candidates on a number of occasions (including Jesse Jackson in '88), and I did so before many of those Kos Kids were born. Those candidates got my vote not for reasons of chic and not for reasons of race, but because I liked them. I will be damned before I vote for any person on the basis of skin color -- which is precisely what scoundrels like Booman and Moulitsas tried to "guilt" me into doing.

Booman is the true racist -- not Geraldine Ferraro.

Let's go back to the list of supposed offenses:
Bill Clinton:

"Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in '84 and '88," Clinton said at a rally in Columbia. "Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here."
Any prog who considers these words racist must be one patty short of a Big Mac.

I well recall how overjoyed I was when Jackson won in'88. Of course, modesty forbade Clinton from mentioning the '92 winner. The 1996 and 2000 winners had the power of incumbency. Clinton's point, of course -- and this same point was made by many pundits (including those at The Nation) back in the 1980s -- is that South Carolina Democratic primaries have a history of going against predictions.

Let's let the Big Dog himself address the racism canard:



Okay, let's get back to Booman's laughable list:
Andrew Cuomo:

"It's not a TV crazed race. Frankly you can't buy your way into it," Cuomo said, according to Albany Times Union reporter Rick Karlin. He then added, "You can't shuck and jive at a press conference. All those moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living room."
So what?

I grew up hearing the phrase "shuck and jive" (or just "jive") used all the time, in all sorts of contexts. Nobody told me, when I was a boy, that the term originated in the black experience, and I do not recall it being applied to blacks. I recall it being used of fellow students who made unconvincing excuses for not doing work that they were told to do. (Granted, my experience probably would have been different if I had grown up in the deep south instead of California.)

The phrase long ago entered the lexicon. It sees a very generalized usage. It now it belongs to everyone.

For what it's worth: I also believe that the Clintonites who jumped on the word "periodically" were similarly grasping at straws. (Incidentally, I think that Cuomo's argument was stupid, though not racist.)

Once again, we look at the list:
Hillary Clinton:

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
Perfectly accurate, at the time.

Like it or not, polls categorize the polled, and every candidate pays attention to how he or she is doing in each demographic. I don't know how one can talk about white voters or black voters or or female voters or rich voters or middle-class voters or working class voters without ever mentioning the words white, black, female, rich, middle-class, working-class or whatever.

Below, we will see examples of Obama supporters doing exactly the same thing. That is, they committed the "sin" of talking about white voters and black voters. Of course, they may do what Hillary may not.

Everyone knows that Obama entered the race with weak support from blacks -- and lots of black writers commented on that fact. Are black pundits allowed to speak of "black voters" while white people are forevermore disallowed from using the phrase "white voters"? Is that fair?

"Hard-working," in context, was just Hillary's attempt to butter up a voting bloc. She was sputtering in her determination to avoid the dreaded term "working class" (even though that's what she meant) because she knew that the working class in America prefers to think of itself as middle class (even though it isn't). She was not implying that black people don't also work hard.

Back to the list:
Ed Koch::

"I believe Obama probably will win [the Democratic nomination], although in politics you never ever can count anybody out," said former New York Mayor Ed Koch. "I think Hillary is doing a magnificent job and is a great candidate and if anybody can pull it out, she can. But my honest opinion is, it probably won't happen. And that he will be the candidate and that he will lose."...

"I am shocked, without knowing the reason that it is happening, that none of the allegations with the respect of Wright, his former pastor, have had any impact on his polling," said Koch. "I'm absolutely surprised because I think that all the things that Wright says -- and nobody believes that Obama supports those statements -- but he didn't have the courage to stand up and object for twenty years. If you are running for president, you can't be like some other poor guy in the pews who is afraid to stand up or even say something privately to the minister. You're the guy who wants to lead the country and you have to have courage to stand up and lead your own pastor. He did not exhibit that. But the fact that the Democratic constituency doesn't seem to care is a shock to me, but I'm certain that the overall constituency voting in November will care and that it will make the difference in the adverse way to his candidacy."
Ed Koch never spoke for anyone except Ed Koch. True, his prediction did not come true -- but so what? I defy anyone to name a political observer who never made a wrong prediction.

Like Koch, I also predicted, incorrectly, that Wright was going to play a huge factor in the general election Republican ad campaign. The fact that Wright went unmentioned led me to suspect that McCain did not really want to win.

(Imagine if the outcry -- the justifiable outcry -- if a follower of Jerry Falwell ran for president! I consider Falwell and Wright to have a rough equivalence of venality.)

At any rate, anyone who interprets the Koch quote as an example of blatant (or even subtle) bigotry is nuttier than the Planters factory. Then again, I suppose that one could read racism into the ingredients list on a can of beef stew, if one is determined to do so.

The Booman's list contains only two more "damning" quotes.

One comes from Representative Rob Andrews, who spoke of hearing ill-defined racial "signals" in a phone call from a Hillary campaign worker before a primary. Booman, scoundrel that he is, does not tell you that the Clinton campaign denied the accusation vociferously and that Andrews never provided specifics or one shard of evidence.

When Andrews made the statement, he had just lost badly to Frank Lautenberg in the Senate primary. He desperately needed party support if he wanted to get into the race to regain his House seat -- something he had promised not to do. In other words, Booman is relying on the word of a proven liar. Obviously, Andrews saw that Obama and his gang of Chicago thugs were the new rulers of the party. I think that Andrews (who has a rather sleazy voting record) told a huge fib in order to get in good with the new bosses.

The final Booman quote comes from Bob Johnson, speaking "as an African-American." He made a bizarre reference to Sidney Poitier. Frankly, I can't claim to understand the point he was trying to make, and I really don't care. Nothing said by Bob Johnson provides evidence of Clinton's supposed "racism."

Booman's evidence amounts to nada. Hillary Clinton never resorted to racism, disguised or blatant, during the primary. She never had any motive to do so. Even if she were a bigot in her heart of hearts (which I am sure she is not), tactical concerns would have told her not to take such a course.

For a long time, she had the black vote sewn up. Why would she alienate that constituency? No Democrat would do so. (For that matter, no Republican in today's political environment would dare to insult black people.)

Black voters abandoned Hillary only after the Obama campaign decided to smear the Clintons. Alas, smears do work -- and no voting bloc is immune. Maybe that's why Obama's campaign tactics have evinced more admiration from Republicans (such as Nancy Reagan) than from Democrats.

At one point, Paul Krugman admitted that nearly all of the outrageous statements made during the primary came from the Obama forces. As a reward for his honesty, many writers on the Daily Kos (an arm of the Obama campaign) smeared Krugman as a conservative and a bigot. That's right: The "progressive" movement embraced Andrew freaking Sullivan while smearing Paul Krugman.

They also spread a false story that Krugman's son worked for Hillary. He has no children.

That's how the Obots operate: They lie. During the campaign, they told lie after lie after lie -- and they never had to pay a political price for doing so.

But lying was hardly the worst of it.

During the campaign I received death threats from Obots -- a couple of which I documented in previous posts. ("Do the species a favor and kill yourself. Better yet, tell me where you live and I'll come do it for you.") I was not the only victim of cyber-terrorism; many other Obama opponents also received threats.

Remember what happened to radio host Steve Corbett and to Representative Emanuel Cleaver II? Remember Donna Brazile's thuggish warning that "there will be blood" if Obama did not receive the nomination? She spoke literally, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Obama never denounced these tactics. He never denounced Donna Brazile.

I do not know of a single instance in which a Hillary supporter lobbed death threats at a pro-Obama writer. All of the threats -- ALL of them -- came from Obots.

What does that fact tell you about the dangers of the mob?

Here are some examples of things said by pro-Obama forces. Compare the following quotes to the alleged "outrages" listed by Booman. (I am culling these examples from previous posts; you can look up the links to the original sources by using the intra-site search engine at the top of the page.)
Obama is black? That’s just not acceptable at the cuntry club.
"Hillary is a liar and a cunt"
She’s a monster who just won’t die. In fact, she really should just die.
The good news is if Clinton wins (steals) the presidency she will likely be assassinated within a week. She is a total lying gas bag hag and deserves to [go to] her maker for what will only be described as a truly karmic moment which will last for all eternity.
Just slit her throat, lock her in a car boot, and drive the car into river in West Virginia. Ain’t gonna let no whore screw with the man
The heinous Hillary hag with a bullseye on her forehead is reason enough to vote for Obama
And a Drive-By Won't Be Out of the Question. What goes around, comes around. The stupid fucking bitch !!
Talk About WHITE TRASH that bitch better keep looking over her shoulder.
if hillary is elected we're gonna be stuck with whomever she picks as a running mate for the remainder of the term after she gets assasinated.
You know, looking at these Obot death threats against Hillary, I suddenly don't feel quite so surprised by the young Americans in Israel who recently called for Obama to be killed. Of course, I still believe that those fools should go to jail. On the other hand, we must admit that they treated Obama pretty much the same way that the Obots treated Hillary. What goes around, comes around...

By the way: Just imagine how Booman would have reacted if any Hillary supporter -- anywhere, on even the smallest blog -- had referred to Obama as "black trash." Why the double standard, Booman?
Hillary Clinton is not interested in what is best for our country; she is interested in what is best for her. She is a self-serving bitch.
Hillary's gonna lose you feminazi cunts.
Hillary is a liar and a cunt
Obama's great innovation in political discourse is his willingness to countenance the use of the word "cunt" in a political campaign. Not once did he denounce the things his supporters said on a daily (hourly) basis, even though he was urged to do so. Some of these quotes even came from his official campaign site. His refusal to decry the ghastly things being done in his name is tantamount to complicity.
They're all crazy cunts,taze them all!!!!!!
Cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt CUNT cunt cunt cunt CUNT cunt cunt cunt CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT . . .

Yo! Cunt!
Imagine the shrieks of protest that would have been heard if any Clinton supporter, on even the lowliest of blogs, had referred to Obama as "nigger." Keith Olbermann would have devoted an entire segment to the topic. But "cunt" is a perfectly acceptable term in the Obot lexicon.

They
may speak in any ugly way they want to speak. All others must watch their every phoneme for every hemi-demi-semiquaver of mis-construable connotation.
Bush Clinton crime family must be eradicated.
I thought Vince Foster was on the Clinton Body Count list
Does Hillary want to murder Obama? Probably not with her own two hands but one thing for sure: HILLARY WANTS BARACK OBAMA DEAD
Has Hillary ever denouced the bigots who support her?
Hillary is enabling racism which is why I could not vote for her.
That racist block is the constituency that is keeping her fight alive.
This next one looks particularly hilarious nowadays:
Barack is all about unity -- he talks about it all the time, so there's no question about whether he wants people who foster divisions associated with his campaign. The thing is, Barack doesn't SAY one thing and ACT in a way that doesn't fit what he said.
Now that's a spit-take inducer if ever the English language produced one!
Mr. and Mrs. Clinton went fishing in the waters of the KKK and the Aryan nation's pool of most eligibles.
Those fat old poor white women can go pound salt.
The numbers of hysterical, crazed old females who have emotionally latched on to Hillary is simply a phenomenon that can't be denied. I don't know what is causing this but it's REAL and can't be swept under the rug. There's a BIG bunch of unhinged, old white females, far beyond self-embarrassment, who are acting like screeching Hags for Hill.
Obama does not have a white problem, he has a backwater inbred ignorant racist appalachian hillbilly problem. And we can win without them.
Who cares if older white women stay home?
Gee -- I thought it was racist to speak in demographic terms. Isn't that what Booman wants us to believe? Where's the consistency?
What would be the point of kissing azz for some old hags/bigots?
Hillary supporters, needless Democrats.
We don't need Hillary's supporters! They can go on and vote for McCain!

NO UNITY!!!
Yeah. That Barack -- he sure is a uniter, all right. That's why he won a bare majority in a year that should have seen a landslide Democratic victory. He would have lost if the economic meltdown had hit a month or so later.

On the other hand, perhaps it is indeed fair to say that he has been a uniter. Politically, his administration has united itself with the Bush legacy.
"How about "Arkansas Uber Alles"? Seig Heil to Mrs Clinton!"
The menses makes the ladies crazy and unhinged. That's why we can never have a woman as president. They'd get all PMS-ish and start a nuclear war.
yes, she is the ultimate fag hag, isn't she?...

and her campaign in pennsylvania proved many of the gay men in the midstate (100% of whom support her) are a bunch of racist queens...
Hillary Clinton is a monster, and a bitter hag.
Any woman who votes for her is voting with her vagina, not her brain.
Women only like Hillary because she’s a fellow Vagina-American.
men who support her are castratos in the eunuch chorus
That's enough for now. As everyone knows, I could compile a list literally a hundred times longer, filled with similarly vile sentiments.

Can we compare the disgusting tactics of Obama's supporters to the statements made by Hillary's supporters? Sure -- but only in the sense that you might compare the Nazi war machine to the Gustav Mahler Appreciation Society. You can compare anything to anything else. In this case, the comparison reveals the truly odious nature of the Obama movement.

As long as I live, I will never forget the stench.
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Good roundup. Clinton apologized at least three times for so-called racist remarks from Ferraro, Shaheen and Bill Clinton but Obama never said hasn't said anything about the sexism from himself, the media or the blogs. He used sexist dogwhistles including his refusal to address sexism to get men's votes.

http://donnadarko.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/clinton-did-apologize-for-racism/

He gave speeches denouncing racism and anti-Semitism, homophobia in the black community but he has never said anything about sexism except for the "Sweetie" remark he made against a non-partisan reporter and a racist sexist remark against his wife. This after the historic misogyny from himself, the media and the blogosphere.
 
Bigoted language relies on bigoted stereotypes for its punch. You can refer to a white guy as shucking and jiving because there is no demeaning cultural stereotype of white guys, as a demographic, being completely full of shit. But African Americans have been demeaned as "shucking and jiving".

Same thing with the statement that Clinton "periodically" gets down and attacks to boost her appeal. It's a statement that wouldn't even make sense if applied to a man. It's about the demeaning stereotype that women get so moody during their periods that they become irrational and hostile.

Obama, like Jesse Helms before him, used bigotry to fuel his campaign. Like bigots and bullies everywhere, he claimed to be the victim. It's what they always do.
 
Daki's post wasn't so bad but I personally reacted to it after reading Anglachel's post.

The netroots and Third Wave have zero credibility after aiding, abetting, participating in and condoning the worst misogyny this country has ever seen. They have zero credibility and elected Bush III so nothing they say means anything.
 
Great post.

Is this Booman asshole the same asshole that posts on Tennessee Guerrilla Women as Angry Black Guy? Every time there is any criticism of Obama they swarm the comments section over there howling about Hillary. They're obsessed. Sick, sick woman-hating, homophobic cultists.
 
The misogyny wasn't so much in those few phrases but in the daily use of the double standard against women from Obama, the media and the blogosphere in addition to stereotyping against women from Obama, the media and the blogosphere all of which could be found in media, blogs and comment sections covering the election.
 
lori, when I was growing up, everyone used "jive" as a polite way of saying "bullshit." As in: "Nixon's full of jive, man." "That cop was jivin' you." It was simply a standard part of hippie-ese.

I honestly had no concept until later in life that there was something uniquely African-American about the phrase's origins.
 
There's only one rational response: “Hillary would be worse” and “Get over it, you lost. Loser”
 
RE: "periodically"

Intentionally or not that word choice made his statement into a pun.

Add to that the fact that Obama's original claim to fame was his ability as a wordsmith, and it's not unreasonable to assume he knew or should have known the reaction that word would cause.

Then add "lipstick on a pig" and you have a candidate who accidentally says a lot of things that are easily interpreted as offensive.
 
Thanks, Joe.
But you realize the O-bots will never read this and if they do refuse to comprehend it.
 
Thank you.
 
You missed my favorite bit of misogyny - referring to Hillary as the 'Joan of Arc of the dry pussy demographic'. That was the one that told me the Obots had gone completely off the rails.
 
"As long as I live, I will never forget the stench."
me either, joseph. thanks!
emmag
 
I read Booman's list supposedly proving that H. Clinton ran a racist campaign and I had to laugh. Thanks for putting him in his place. Dakinikat is obviously not a racist and neither is Hillary.
 
To clarify an earlier point, I made a leap from Anglachel's post and TC cliqueishness to racism. Sometimes, TC can appear exclusive or cliquey.
 
Did you catch this one?

Booman:

I think her campaign [Hillary Clinton's] put Jesse Helms to shame. Do you think Jesse Helms was a racist?

Her campaign was even worse that I thought if she aroused all that hatred unintentionally.
 
Joe,

The phrase "shuck and jive" should probably be left to posterity. But applying it to a white guy does not call up the demeaning stereotypes that it does when one accuses an African American of the same behavior.

It's like the word "boy" - everyone I know called John Edwards "boy". There was nothing inappropriate about that. But calling Obama that would have been a very different thing because of the stereotypes it calls up.
 
To the anonymous person whose comment I just rejected for publication:

Screw you and your concerns for my "credibility." It would help YOUR credibility if your followed the rules for comments posted clearly on the top right.
 
Lori: Posterity? Nah, I would prefer to see "jive" come back into the same sort of general use it had back in, say, 1972. I kind of preferred "Don't give me that jive" to "Don't hand me that bullshit."

Then again, I also want "groovy" to come back. I believe that "groovy" may have also started with black people -- jazz musicians -- but it soon became common linguistic coin. I loved that term.

As for calling Obama "boy" -- what pissed me off were the many people who called Hillary "your girl" yet who would have chewed my head off if I had referred to Obama as "your boy." Sorry, but we are in absolute disagreement here. I hate linguistic double standards based on race, and I really don't give a shit about your arguments based on history. If Hillary can be "your girl," Obama can be "your boy." If Obama must always be called a man, then Hillary must always be called a woman. SAME RULE FOR BOTH -- NO EXCEPTIONS FOR ANY REASONS.
 
You cant explain anything to the Obama supporters who make these comments-they are unusually stupid and aggressive and ignore anything that doesn't get their adrenaline going.

I like how detailed your response is though. What I would really like to see is a chart of the promises Obama made prior to the campaign and how long it took to break them.

I've noticed the media is subtly shifting public perception on what he promised and I think it would be helpful if people were reminded of the things he claimed to be able to do with his Harry Potter like magical powers.

One thing he was supposed to be able to do was bring together the republicans and the democrats to forge a new common ground.

Funny how no one points out how he is probably the biggest failure when it comes to bipartisanship of any President in the past 200 years.

Anyway the list is long but it would be fun to see just how fast he broke his promises.


As far as responding to Boorman and the other boors-I'd just mock them. The Obots thrive on anger-people like that don't do well if you make fun of them. I used to attract this kind of person when I posted on blogs and realized after a while they are all about getting a reaction . If you just continue to not react while making fun of their logic in a light hearted way they go insane with frustration.

Hillary might have won if she had relaxed more and cracked a few jokes at Obama's expense the way her husband could.
 
Joseph,

It's not a double standard if it is based on history. As for girl, Hillary started that one by saying that if you wanted someone who was going to fight really hard, she was your girl. I think she intentionally legitimized that.

The problem being that there are no words that have historically been used to hold white males back based on their race or gender. So everybody else winds up swallowing poison in the name of an even playing field. Practically speaking, it doesn't work. but words lose their historical resonance. I suspect in a generation or so, boy and shuck and jive will lose their sting.
 
Hey, I see my #1 headed up the post. Should I be flattered? (If not, don't worry, I can stroke my own ego. ;))

During one of the debates, I recall how Obama weaseled *and* tried to draw a false equivalence as regards the infamous South Carolina Memo.

He said something to the effect that the memo was "unfortunate" ( since that can mean so many things, that's not really denouncing it), and that there were unfortunate things "done on both sides" (or words to that effect).

To refresh memories (just on case that is needed) he was referring to when two out of all of the thousands of Hillary volunteers had forwarded an email suggesting Obama might be a Muslim, and attempting to say how that was the same as when his press secretary - the number three person in his campaign, and someone picked specifically to say what he told him to, and only what he told him to - issued a four-page memo "proving" that the Clintons were racist.

I know Hillary promptly fired the two volunteers. I don't know if Obama fired his PS...but if he did, I didn't hear about it.



Sergei Rostov
 
Speaking of ACORN, here's something interesting:


Because of their previous relationship with Obama, ACORN went to the law firm he was with and has them sue Citibank to get them to make more minority mortgage loans. (Side note: I have always contended Citi wanted to lose that suit so that they had legal cover to make predatory loans.)

Everyone reading this I'm sure knows that Citi was one of the big beneficiaries of the bailout. But now - as if that wasn't bad enough - we find out ("Grand Theft Auto..." Greg Palast June 1, 2009) that Citi's loans to GM are being paid back right away in cash by way of Obama and Steven Rattner (his "car czar") raiding the GM worker's pension fund (a move which has been illegal since the passing of the Nixon-era ERISA law).


Hmmm.



Sergei Rostov
 
Well, the answer's obvious, isn't it? Greg Palast must have fallen prey to the scourge of racism.

Seriously, young Rattner is a piece of work, isn't he? He got into his position by "embracing" (in the Boomanian sense) Larry Summers. You know the song: "I polished that handle so perfectly/That now I am the ruler of the Queen's na-vee..."

Well, Rattner seems to have polished SOMETHING.
 
Like you and Koch, I thought Obama couldn't win the general election. I thought the Republicans were helping Obama so that they could retain the presidency.

Most of us expected the October Surprise to be something that would scare Americans into voting Republican again. Instead, it was a banking crisis, giving any Democrat an advantage.

No one will ever convince me that the news of and action on that problem couldn't have been put off for a few weeks, making it irrelevant to the election.

Why would the Republicans give away the election? Because THEY are the ones playing 11 dimensional chess. They wanted Obama elected so that they could blame Bush's failures on him.

Looks like it's starting to work:
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/06/05/is-obama-finally-starting-to-take-on-water/

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
In the south, where I come from, "shuck and jive" still has a deeply racial, very offensive, connotation. And use of the word boy to describe a black man is much worse than calling a woman a girl.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
I saved some Bushbot emails from 2000:

What have you done to earn your citizenship in this great country? More than likely nothing, just happened to be born here huh?

I have served this country with great personnel sacrifice for the last eight years of my life in the Armed Forces. I have EARNED my citizenship. I have a right to speak out. If you have done nothing to benefit your country, and just reap the rewards than you have not earned your citizenship and you need to SHUT UP and SIT DOWN.

And don't reply with "It's my right!", that's not the question, HAVE YOU EARNED IT?!

************

Damn bed wetting liberals. Get a life of your own...oh wait, no, that's the government's responsibility.

************

Maybe it is time to go after hillary also, now that we have the full power of the government behind us, maybe a subpone will be obeyed (or they will enjoy spending time as bubbas butt buddy in prison).

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… I also am a 20 year veteran of our armed forces, I have had to take theoath a few times now, adn I will happily use my weapons to defend that oath and our constitution.

"Of course, you would not find it worthwhile to do yourself, why not hire some darkies to do it for you....right?

************

It's nice to fine some good satire. In a dull web site like this. These socialist pinkos need to try to pick a better country. Before we pick one for them.

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…we who are informed and understand the Constitution of these United States know that the left wing pinko liberals will stop at nothing to deprive us of our rights and shovew their no-moral beleifs on those of us who have brain cells and do not plan on overthrowing the Government because we do not like the outcome of this fair election. You people need to grow up, get a real life and when you have a problem with something, do something about it before hand, not after.

************

You need to be hung for treason

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All I can say is AAAAHAHHHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

WE WON, SO LIVE WITH IT, MORON. AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

YOU LIBERALS REALLY MAKE ME LAUGH.
GO BLOW CLINTON...A AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

IT WAS ALL HE WAS GOOD FOR.......AAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AFTER LOOKING AT YOUR PICTURE, YOU WOULD PROBABLY PREFER JANET RENO,
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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REMEMBER THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR STATES AND POSSIBLY 49 OTHER STATES THAT COULD BE RECOUNTED WHICH COULD TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING REALLY UGLY FOR THE GORE PEOPLE AND OUR NATION. BOTH IN THE POPULAR VOTE AND THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

So, put the FISHING POLES DOWN and join the rest of the country in:
Welcoming President Elect GEORGE W. BUSH.

************

In the name of GOD or your favorite God or Godess. Stop this madness. You have no Idea of what will happen if you split this great Nation. The civil war will pale in comparison. Back off now. Or; face the the coming dawn of second Civil War. You are about to destroy the greatest Nation on earth. Have great fear of what is on the Horizon. There are a great number of my brethern that will not stop till the great cleansing has stopped. This nation is on the brink. You can save what you have accomplished up to this point . Back off or all may be lost.

************


IT will be a civil war, and remember the electorate map when you go to respond, new york and california woudl be your allies, everyone elese woudl be fighting for freedom and the constitution, and also remember, *we* have all the guns.

************

Sound familiar?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
The lesson is clear. If you want to destroy a political party, just fill it with Clinton haters.
 
Aside from the ridiculous claims of racism, I would like to know why Obama fans saw him as more liberal/progressive than Clinton when he said this in 2004 after Jack Ryan was forced to drop out of the Senate race (a reaction to the claim by Ryan that Obama was "too liberal"):

"I would argue that my views and the manner in which I've operated are probably closer to some of the moderate Republicans in this state like Jim Thompson and Jim Edgar," both former Illinois governors, he said.

http://origin.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,116042,00.html

Why wasn't this quote dissected by his fans?

I'm truly sorry that you and other bloggers were threatened. This should not have happened and would not have happened if Obama had spoken out against the behavior of some of his dedicated supporters (impossible to imagine, I know). I still believe that the Camp Obamas purposely recruited and trained those who were not firing on all cylinders because the camps placed major emphasis on emotional reactions and gave little time to actual policy discussions. Anyone looking for policy meat would have been discouraged. Those who remained as his supporters were more likely to react in emotional (i.e., fanatical) ways to any criticism of their candidate.

old dem
 
Bravo, Joe.
 
Caro...

Oh god, I am so grateful you saved that crap. I remember it well. All of that Robert Heinlein shit enjoyed quite a vogue for a while, did it not?

As for "boy" and "girl" -- my record is clear: I never employed "girl" as a term for Hillary Clinton and I never used "boy" to describe Barack Obama.

But I still insist on linguistic equivalence.

It's like the argument over the word "nigger": I consider the word truly profane and believe that it should be banned from civilized discourse. What I don't go along with is the idea that black people can use it everyday conversation while white people must not. I think society will be a better place if everyone simply avoids the word.

Period. No excuses. No sophistry. No special pleading. Just don't use the word. Isn't that a simpler, more elegant solution?

On the other hand, when dealing with the word AS a word (as we are doing right now) or when quoting someone else's use of that profanity -- or any other profanity -- I don't favor using childish euphemisms like "the n word." Obscenities like "nigger," "cunt," and "fuck" should be spelled out, except when addressing children.
 
Somebody thought "jive" was being racist. I just remember the "they want to hoodwink, bamboozle you" stuff. I firmly beleive the Republicans knew they had a friend in the opposing candidate that could be given the economic mess and give it a democrat label. They didn't want McCain to win.
 
What you're doing is the basis of demagoguery: taking anecdotal examples and extrapolating them to a whole population or group.

Why don't you go on Google and find the worse stupid / racist things said by African Americans against white people. Don't forget to only focus on one side, completely ignoring any example of white people saying racist thing against black people. You can then write a lengthy article on how stupid and racist all black people are, illustrated with all the nice examples you found using google. It wouldn't be much different than what you just published.

After you start receiving insults by email and comments on your blog from people who feel offended by your "analysis", you can then extrapolate that ALL black people are the worse people on earth because of the behavior of these individuals who dare to insult you.

It's an easy recipe and it always works (ask any Republican politicians). You can repeat the exercise with any political groups or sport teams you don't like. Your result will always be the same. You can always find a group saying stupid things on the Internet who support any cause or politician you don't like. Every sport team have their hooligans, any political party have their stupid thugs, every culture and nation have their morons. Do we judge Hillary by what the morons on NoQuarter are saying ?

Basically, this whole hysteria doesn't prove anything about Obama. It only prove that there's stupid people on the Internet. Is anyone surprised ?
 
As political elections go, and I've witnessed a few, it's understandable, though definitely not acceptable or right, that one would hear crap like this in a republican vs. democrat race. To hear this in a dem vs. dem makes it all the more disgusting as the democratic party is supposedly the one of inclusion. Seems 2008 will go down as one of the lowest events, albeit historic, for the party.
 
You know, I've always had the sneaking suspicion that some of the anonymous comments by alleged Obama supporters were actually sent by minions of Karl Rove,etc. But of course many were real, and those people should apologize. Should Obama have called a press conference to denounce those comments. I would say no.

I never made a similar search on Hillary sites to look at the comments there.

Did Obama play the race card? One could make a case for it but in a subtle sense. Did Hillary do the same with "hardworking white people." I suppose one could make a case for it. Speaking of playing the race card though, you supported Jesse Jackson who has made a career out of playing the race card.

The election campaign is over. Both Hillary is Secretary of State. You are beginning to remind me of those Japanese soldiers still fighting the war. My advice: the one thing you say you will never do, forgive and forget.
 
Why wasn't this quote dissected by his fans?

Obama has a unique gift. When he lies his supporters believe him, but when he tells the truth they don't.
 
RE: Shuck and Jive. It is possible for a term to have different meanings to different groups of people. This is seen here in the debate over the term Shuck and Jive.

I learned that the term "cakewalk" can be a racist term. When I was a child growing up, a cakewalk was simply a carnival game in which one could win a whole cake simply for standing on the correct numbered tile when the music stopped. The term cakewalk to me and to many others has always on only meant a simple task, or being lucky enought to be in the right place at the right time.

I used the term once in a comment about Obama's seemingly smooth and rapid upward path in politics. I said that even though I'm sure his life has not been a cakewalk, it seems odd how obstacles often seem to be removed for him in a way they aren't for others. I was promptly informed that the term cakewalk meant my entire comment and sentiment were racist. Little did I know there is another meaning, and that meaning is racist. I explained that I did not know of that meaning and have not used and will not use that term again. However, I had no way of knowing that. Much like drug slang or sex slang, one isn't always aware of slang from different geographical regions or age groups or other demographics until it is brought to one's attention. Another good recent example was the use of 'tea bag.' I bet there are many tea partyers who were not aware of the sexual connotation of that term until they were being ridiculed with it.

Plus, slang co-opts terms and words all the time. It's hard to keep up. It says more about the person who assumes some one meant something racist, sexist or hurtful than it does about the person that uses a term that can be interpreted differently.

Alas, as myiq points out, I have never attempted to bill myself as a wordsmith.

Great list, Joe. And a very satisfying post. I savored it and made it last most of the morning.
 
Course Hillary only has to kill four people to become President.

VINCE FOSTER.VINCE FOSTER.

And where can I get one of those cool Sarah Palin t-shirts?
 
small d --

"What you're doing is the basis of demagoguery: taking anecdotal examples and extrapolating them to a whole population or group."

Fuck you. I KNEW someone like you would say that shit.

The hate campaign was by no means small. The outrages were by no means anecdotal. The disgusting behavioral happened day after day. Hour by hour. Minute by minute.

Anyone who did not hail Dear Leader was chased off of the big blogs. That's why places like the Confluence exist.

ALL Obama supporters were guilty.

ALL.

You know what you're doing, d? Let me clue you in.

You're like a German apologist who doesn't want to admit that the Germans persecuted Jews on Krystallnacht. "Oh yeah? Prove it to me." So someone offers proof, citing incident after incident after incident. But no matter how much proof piles up, you simply smile smugly and say: "Oh, that's just ANECDOTAL. Stop being such a demagogue. You can't condemn an entire group based on things done by a few..."

Hey, this game is fun! Now let's use the same tactic to prove that the Native Americans were never the victims of genocide. "You say there was something called a trail of tears? Your evidence is purely anecdotal. Maybe SOME white people did a few bad things, but you can't condemn the entire white population..."

"You say that black people were mistreated in the antebellum south? Well, let's see your evidence. But I'll need something more than anecdotal evidence. Maybe a few southerners went overboard, but you'd have to be a demagogue to condemn the lot of 'em. Documents...? Oh, we all know that documentary evidence can be forged..."

FUCK. YOU.

I devoted post after post for months and months to the documentation of the Obama mob's vile behavior. It was an endless task. I provided links to the original pages, and anyone who goes there can see that I chose examples pretty much at random. This shit was endless.

Did I say that my list could have been a hundred times longer? In truth, I could put together a list of damning quotes a THOUSAND times longer. Maybe ten thousand. And you damned well know it.

What we saw in 2008 was the deliberate creation of a MOB in America. It was a cult of personality. I guarantee you -- history books will one day categorize the Obama cult alongside the cults that grew up around Mao or Joe McCarthy. When Obama has finished the job of fucking up, sociologist would spend a lot of time studying the Messianic madness that overtook America in 2008.

The transformation of a political campaign into a crazed mob is Obama's gift to the Democratic party. That's why Republicans are such big admirers of his campaign tactics, while sensible Dems are starting to be embarrassed by it.
 
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gary: You know damn well that Hillary did not say that only white people were hardworking, and if you ever imply crap like that again, then stay away.

NO national politician of either party can hope to make headway with a subtle or overt appeal to race. That's just a fact. It's backed by polls, by all recent experience, and by common sense.

The idea that the Democratic party is filled with Klansmen dancing to the hate-music played by the Clintons is a ruse -- a hallucination created by Obots.

One day, when Obama is fully discredited -- and that discreditization process is happening pretty quick -- someone is going to step forward from behind the scenes and explain how that meme was deliberately created by the campaign.

The hate did not come from the Republicans and you know it. Much of the worst of my barrage all came from the same ISP in Illinois. And whenever I would get a long hoax email -- I recall one in particular that other blogs chose to print -- it came from that same ISP.

Obama's campaign deliberately created a mob, a frenzy, just as Joe McCarthy did. The evidence was right there in front of you. You're an idiot if you can't see it.

On the other hand, gary, you're the guy who thinks that the infamous video does NOT show Obama flipping the bird at Clinton. (Even though the crowd hoots with glee when he does it!) That's like Dan Rather having a private look at the Zapruder film and telling the world that the shot came from the back.

Your man is just another Chicago thug. If his skin were white and if you weren't suffused with liberal guilt, if you weren't trying to prove to yourself what a non-racist you are, you would see Obama for the bastard that he is.

I have nothing for which to apologize. You do. Day after day, Obi is showing his true colors: He is Bush III.
 
Anonymous with the "cakewalk" comment:

I think you were had. I grew up in south Louisiana, and I'm sure I've heard every racist term ever invented. I never heard that one. You were called a racist for saying that Obama was given favors. Which is, of course, true.

Joseph:

I think that those of us who fought the message board wars of 2000 are very different from those who came later. VERY different.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
As to the flipping-the-bird video, some in the crowd may have misinterpreted an innocent gesture as you did. And again who flips the bird with two fingers. I saw Obama do the exact same thing recently, he touches or scratches his face. The people who accused Obama for Fingergate should apologize.

I never said or implied that Hillary meant that only white people were hard-working. She was implying I think that she could win because she appealed more to white people. All of the candidates and their spokespeople would have done better to have just not mentioned race.

I have nothing to apologize for. I never made any comments like the ones you cite, and I criticized them. In fact, I once left an anonymous comment on your blog, apologizing on behalf of the other anonymous commenters. Why don't you accept my anonymous apology and move on?
 
Fuck you, gary. Never show up here again.

The video OBVIOUSLY shows him flipping off Hillary, and you damn well know it. Everyone -- not "some" (I wish you fucking bots would stop playing the "some" game when you are well and truly caught) -- EVERYONE in that crowd knew what the thuggish Obama was doing. You are very bit as disgusting as those creatures who try to convince us that the Z film doe snot show what it obviously shows.

Damn straight you should apologize. You supported Obama. Within five years, this country will be as conservative as it was in 2002 -- maybe moreso -- and it will also be a lot poorer. All due to Obama, who was PICKED BY THE CONSERVATIVES to take office, fail, and thereby make all liberalism look bad.

Yes, I said "picked by the conservatives." Look who funded him: The same Wall Street clowns who are now benefitting from his largesse. Look at the support he got from the mainstream media. The same MSNBC and CNN and NYT and WP which told incessant lies about Al Gore and Bill Clinton gave daily verbal blowjobs to Barack Obama. Doesn't that fact TELL you something, dummy? WAKE THE FUCK UP, DUMMY!
 
On the cakewalk:

Hmm, I knew the common American slang but not its roots in American slavery

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-cakewalk.htm

I only knew it from learning Debussy pieces whose tempo was "in the manner of a cakewalk." (I doubt he knew the true origin - as he was a French national and not even born until 1862 - but I may be wrong here.)

As far as offensive slang goes, I do tend to agree with the "co-opt" argument.

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old dem -

Not to mention Obama said that Reagan got elected because he was "accountable" (Iran Contra, cocaine trade, death squads?) that LBJ's Great Society anti-poverty programs were an example of bloated goverment, that he wanted a foreign policy like Reagan's (death squads, importing cocaine to America's inner cities, military action on false pretenses), JFK's (trying to overthrow a foreign govt by force, pushing the US to the brink of a nuclear war) and GHW Bush's (going to war on false pretenses, then failing to finish the job).

[I particularly thought how odd it was that Kos supported Obama so strongly: Reagan's actions resulted in (as Kos himself had so nastily and bluntly put it a few years before), people "killing people on my front lawn." Had I seen what Kos had seen, to have someone praise Reagan's "accountability" and want to emulate his foreign policy would by itself have been reason enough to dump him for good.]

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Gary -

I've already refuted this (and here, in comments to previous posts; I even alluded to it above):

[excerpt]

His press secretary sent out a four-page memo detailing how racist Hillary was (the infamous South Carolna Memo). Jesse Jackson Jr. (Obama's national campaign chair) called Hillary a racist during the New Hampshire primary. Obama did as well, in speeches in both North Carolina and Mississippi. And his supporters got the message.



Sergei Rostov
 
Wow. Wow. Wow. Someone said "bravo" and that sums it up. Great post, thanks for keeping the facts alive, Joseph! I love the comments thread, too, and especially the slapdown on the dismissal of "anecdotal" which was indeed bs! "Anecdotal," as in....reality???? Deal with it, Obots!

When all the commentators I admired went off the rails after NH, accusing Hillary of "stealing" the state during the primaries, I wrote up my experience...I was there. It wasn't even close. If I hadn't been there I might not have believed it myself, but Hillary had very passionate, very deep and very broad support there.

But hey....in everything that was excellent here, I just have to add one kudos that no one else is likely to care about, but it makes me say--- be still my heart...!

"My only problem with Ferraro's statement is her disdain for the subjunctive."

Too fucking cute. :)
 
That t-shirt still makes me ill. That t-shirt sums it up: they could never win on ideas because they only had hate and narcissism.

Which is why, even now, they need to forget and "look forward," right down to becoming apologists for torture. All a symptom of the same escape from substance or accountability. It's so imperative to run that they need to compare what happened *last year* and still has ramifications today... to Japanese soldiers that can't forget the war from the mid-20th century.

That's messed up. But then again, so is the t-shirt.
 
When all the commentators I admired went off the rails after NH, accusing Hillary of "stealing" the state during the primaries

I almost forgot about that - in addition to all the discussion of "the Bradley Effect" there were unfounded accusations of voter fraud too.
 
>>they could never win on ideas

They never PLANNED to win on ideas. They didn't CARE about ideas. In Chicago politics, you don't care about ideas or policies. You just get your guy elected (by any means possible). Then he gives you a job.

The word "clout", which originally meant a club or a bludgeon, was popularized by the first Mayor Daley as meaning the number of jobs you could provide to your supporters.

As to the finger episode, I have screen captures from two different videos that appear to be at different events.
http://makethemaccountable.com/caro/Comment_080420_BarackObamaHasDisrespectedUsAll.htm

How is it possible that he would have the exact same itch in the exact same spot at the exact same place in his speech at two different rallies? And in that same speech, he brushed off his shoulder as though brushing away Hillary. He also used a gesture while saying that Hillary likes to stick the knife in, that was reminiscent of a European "fuck you" gesture.

ABC removed its video of the entire speech, at one of the locales, that showed all three gestures. I haven't been able to find it anywhere else.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
"Yes, I said "picked by the conservatives." Look who funded him: The same Wall Street clowns who are now benefitting from his largesse. Look at the support he got from the mainstream media."

Yippers. And look also at the way the lackluster campaign the RNC ran. They could have won: The GOP has won with worse candidates than McCain (our most recent POTUS, for instance) and against tighter odds. They never unleashed the attack ads, they muzzled Palin, they bleated about McCain's lack of support from Republican voters, like that ever mattered to them. Who can forget what they did to Gore, or Kerry? Those hardcore tactics never surfaced against Obama, and the target was a hundred times bigger.

You have to wonder why they decided to just pull back and sit this one out; it was shockingly obvious that they wanted Obama to win, to everyone but an addled 'bot.

Thanks for your wonderful work documenting this insanity and your refusal to let the Obotti rewrite history.
 
I feel obliged to point out to Caro that those two videos, which appear to be from two different events, are actually from the same event. But if anyone is still not convinced that Obama was deliberately giving Hillary the finger, it should be noted that he pulled the same gesture on John McCain. Incidents like these explain why many started referring to Obama as the Eddie Haskell of politics.

Btw, thanks for the great post, Joe.

Inky
 
Speaking of NH, it was there that Jesse Jackson Jr called Hillary a racist when he said "Why didn't she cry for the victims of Hurricane Katrina?"

(To which I replied: "Hillary could cure cancer and JJJr would call her a racist for not curing sickle-cell anemia first.")


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As regards the "finger" incident, yes, you can scratch your face with your middle finger (I do it myself)...but how often do you curl all your other fingers back first?

Try doing it, it doesn't feel natural...because it isn't. It's what a junior high school kid does when he's trying to be clever. Real mature, Obama.


Sergei Rostov
 
[Lori said]
The problem being that there are no words that have historically been used to hold white males back based on their race or gender

I can think of one: cracker.
(It was, for example, used against Jimmy Carter))


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Carolyn -

I also thought that maybe the Republicans wanted Obama because they figured a) he was so lacking in conviction they could push him around more easily than McCain, and/or b) they had something on him that they could use to blackmail him into doing what they wanted and/or c)they figured Obama was actually to the right of McCain where it really counted.


Sergei Rostov
 
Carter was also derisively called a "peanut farmer," often by the same people who issue sobbing paeans to Amurrican Farmers.

"Bubba" was used derogatorily against Clinton, too, even though it's a term of endearment among Southerners. To upper-crusty Villagers, it was a way to signal their class-based disdain for the Clintons. Invocations of "Arkansas" were used the same way, indicating that Clinton came from a benighted backwater filled with illiterate inbreds.

Sheesh. If only Hillary had accepted that luncheon invitation from Sally Quinn instead of attending a meeting to increase Legal Aid funding or whatever else she was wasting her time on. This whole CDS thing might never have gotten off the ground.
 
"Redneck" was a derogatory term until Jeff Foxworthy made it funny and mainstream.

>>I feel obliged to point out to Caro that those two videos, which appear to be from two different events, are actually from the same event.

If that were so, you'd think at least some of the people in the background would be the same, regardless of the different perspectives. But none are.

I think the fact that all the long version of the speech(es) disappeared within a few days is also telling. The media were covering up for Obama just as they did for Bush.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
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Her eyes are huge and she makes no sense...

Can anyone explain this to me?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=magibon&l=1
 
Looks like she's been told over and over that her eyes are her biggest asset and she wants the world to know it. LOL
 
Is it some sort of a "Who blinks first" contest?
 
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I think she is the most subscribed to director on Youtube. I like her pluck. She's making money off of it.
 
She is the living embodiment of the fantasy cartoons' version of an attractive (young) woman's face.

Unless you've seen those cartoons (I think they're called hente or something), of course, this is mysterious. Why are those cartoons or comic book treatments popular (mainly in Asia)?

Because they find the large eyed, near child-like look very attractive, evidently. (I myself find them cute, but not in a sexual way.)

XI
 
adolescent performance art?

and showing off her eye job? guess there's a big market in japan for those and people pay to look like anime characters.
 
XI, the term you are looking for is anime. Character design in Japanese animation is traditionally influenced by early American animated cartoons -- think Max Fleischer -- which featured characters with very large eyes.

Hentai is a pornographic subset of anime. The genre began, as far as I can tell, with an animated film called Urotsukidoji, which has a surprisingly strong story. If you can get past the tentacle rape.
 
If she is speaking Japanese high school English she won't make sense. I didn't bother to turn the computer speakers on to find out.
 
Yes, thanks for that. Anime, I've seen a little on television. Hentai, I guess, not so much!

The use of very large, very dark (even black) eyes is the common denominator, or at least one of the most obvious feaures of this anime style.

It's one of the reasons infants and infant animals are considered cute-- their eyes are disproportionately large compared to their face size.

XI
 
What came first?
Big eyed anime characters or those big eye paintings that were popular in the 1970's?
I think the eye is one organ that is full sized at birth, anybody know for sure?
The Japanese(unless they are christian)have a more relaxed attitude toward porn than we do.
There are manga (comic books) that feature it readily available in stores.
Also, for those interested, do a web search using the word cosplay.
 
Was it not the Big Bopper who taught us:

There ain't nothin' in the world like a big-eyed girl
That makes me act so funny, makes me spend my money
Makes me feel real loose like a long-necked goose
Like a girl, oh baby, that's what I like!
 
Mike, I thought I had made the point clear. What came first were the American cartoons of the 1920s and 1930s. Those character designs were, I suppose, drawn from a tradition first established in earlier newspaper comic strips.

Japanese animation began in the 1930s. The first full-length anime was in 1944. The "Walt Disney" of Japanese animation was Osamu Tesuka, creator of Astro Boy and Kimba. I had the honor of meeting him in the 1980s at UCLA.

The "big eye" paintings to which you refer began in the late 1950s. They were attributed to a huckster named Walter Keane; much later, the world learned that the canvases were actually painted by his wife Margaret. Nobody really knows why she allowed him to take credit. Eventually, she divorced him and proved in court that she was the true artist.

The "big eye" works had a huge vogue for a while, thanks to Walter's relentless promotional efforts. The fad infuriated many artists and connoisseurs, who considered the big-eyed waifs to be kitsch. The whole thing was pretty much over by the mid-1960s, although Keane's work is still collected and exhibited.
 
That girl looks like a real live Zwinky
 
And I would take issue with the assertion that the Japanese have a more relaxed attitude toward porn than Americans do.

Americans love to bewail the prudishness of their fellow Americans, but it's simply not a fair accusation. This country is swimming in porn and erotica.

In Japan, explicit porn (including scenes of penetration) was illegal until fairly recently.

Back in the 1970s, I had a teacher in high school -- his name, I recall, was Mr. Ash -- who insisted that Indians (India Indians) had fewer sexual hang-ups than Americans did. I called bullshit. I told him that Indians were in fact more prudish -- you could not even show kissing in a film produced in India. Ash got all huffy and told me I was wrong!

Well, I wasn't wrong, as a little research will confirm. But some people are so emotionally wedded to the "prudish Americans vs. hip non-Americans" stereotype that they will believe in it despite all evidence.
 
BTW - Please don't ask me to explain Zwinky
 
Some of those Japanese woodblock prints are pretty raunchy.
I haven't been 100% recently, I did read about the origins of the big eye characters and forgot about it until your mention.
But then I'm a guy who could mess up a paint by numbers picture as far as artistic knowledge and ability.
 
Was Mr. Ash a Pokemon trainer in his spare time by chance?
 
XI,

The term "hentai" comes from the Japanese adjective "hen", meaning "strange". "Hentai" roughly translates as "kinky". "weird", or "perverted". It's not considered a complimentary term in Japanese ;-).
 
Big eyes are definitely moe, so I guess that's the biggest draw for subscribers.
 
Joe--

She's a Mark Ryden painting, that is all.
 
I always wanted to do a movie about the Keanes. it has a perfectly cinematic ending.

Years ago, I looked at a brick bungalow in my small, German hometown in Illinois. Despite it's nicely laid out floor plans, with symetrical, easily decorated rooms and lovely stained glass windows, it had been badly abused by having the original fire place replaced with a 50s river rock fireplace, accoustical ceilings, and was now filled to the brim with ghastly contemporary furniture from Sears Roebuck. The piece de resistance, though, was the faux-Keane, big-eyed nudes in the master bedroom. Horrific. Ghastly. Nightmare inducing.
 
You're missing the best part of this mess, the backstory and outing of this girl...

Read the whole article to really take it all in, yes it can be difficult, but in the end, don't you deserve to know the real story of Magibon?

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/MRirian
 
I get it!

That's the same look Obots get when you engage them in a meaningful conversation!
 
You know, the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that this girl has engaged in a brilliant art experiment. The purpose of her exercise is to demonstrate the meanings that viewers will ascribe to an essentially meaningless image.

Look at what has happened on this thread. Quite a few people have presumed that the woman is in Japan. She is American born and bred. People have presumed that this image has something to do with pedophilia. She is 22. People have talked about porn. There is nothing even remotely sexual occurring here.

People have used this image as an excuse to engage in wide-ranging discussions of Japanese art. There have also been discussions of the nature of internet celebrity. People have posted wild speculations as to what this woman's life is like.

And she accomplished all of this just by looking into the camera and saying not one word.

Whoever she is, she's brilliant! She's an artist. A more profound artist than Warhol, and I'm not kidding.
 
Joe, I would point out, though, that it's thanks to the Japanese that we know for certain the effects of porn on the frequency of sex crimes (an effect hinted by the studies commissioned by Helms (or Meese, I forget which)). Several years ago, the Japanese government produced and distributed porn targeted to those who committed certain specific sex crimes. The result? Within a year those crimes decreased in frequency by 80%.


Sergei Rostov
 
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Saturday, June 06, 2009

"I don't believe in western morality"

The previous post contains a link to this page, which contains what I consider to be reasonable discourse from various rabbis. When I posted the link, I had not yet read down to the final offering, from a Rabbi Friedman of Chabad. These words are all very striking, especially the opening sentence:
I don’t believe in western morality, i.e. don’t kill civilians or children, don’t destroy holy sites, don’t fight during holiday seasons, don’t bomb cemeteries, don’t shoot until they shoot first because it is immoral.

The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).

The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East. First, the Arabs will stop using children as shields. Second, they will stop taking hostages knowing that we will not be intimidated. Third, with their holy sites destroyed, they will stop believing that G-d is on their side. Result: no civilian casualties, no children in the line of fire, no false sense of righteousness, in fact, no war.

Zero tolerance for stone throwing, for rockets, for kidnapping will mean that the state has achieved sovereignty. Living by Torah values will make us a light unto the nations who suffer defeat because of a disastrous morality of human invention.
Rabbi Friedman later published a semi-retraction, no doubt because someone clued him into the fact that he had posted his monstrous words in a public place, where the goys might read them. But I think that his original statement reflects his truest self -- the toothpaste cannot be re-tubed -- and that his sentiments do indeed represent the feelings of many other Jews. Not all, not most, but many, and a growing percentage.

Increasingly, I see a distinction between the Judaism I knew growing up -- the Judaism which produced Albert Einstein, Gustav Mahler, Sigmund Freud, Stanley Kubrick, Will Eisner, Arthur Miller and many other exemplars of western culture -- and a vicious new Judaism. This new Judaism never has and never will produce an Einstein or a Mahler. This new Judaism despises western culture.

Look again at the opening words of the Rabbi's statement.

Look again at those earlier posts which discuss Israeli writers who use the term "western culture" derisively.

For many years, we've been told that Israel represents an outpost of "the west" in a region inhospitable to American and European cultural values. But is it? What I call "old Judaism" was perhaps the finest thing to be found in the west -- the conscience of the west. What I call "new Judaism" is, as the Rabbi himself admits, not western at all. It is something alien. It is Other. An Israel suffused with the spirit of New Judaism bears much less resemblance to European values than does, say, a cosmopolitan city like Beirut.

Hitler had dissociated himself from traditional Western morality. When Rabbi Friedman says that he does not believe in Western morality, he is saying that he despises what Hitler despised, and that he embraces the vile new "morality" that Hitler sought to impose upon the world.

Friedman: "The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children..."

Change the words "Jewish way" to "German way" and you have here the distillation of Hitlerism.

Rabbi Friedman may now want to suggest a difference between his views and Adolf's, but any attempt to do so at this point amounts to ex post facto sophistry, an attempt to talk his way out of an inescapable damnation. Sorry, Rabbi: You said the words and you cannot un-say them. You are, by your own declaration, not moral.

Compare Friedman's words to these, written by Ludwig von Mises back in 1940 -- and note, once again, the distinction between traditional western morality and a new morality which, unfairly, is here called eastern:
Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini constantly proclaim that they are chosen by destiny to bring salvation to this world. They claim they are the leaders of the creative youth who fight against their outlived elders. They bring from the East the new culture which is to replace the dying Western civilization.
It is a law of nature, they say, that great historic changes cannot take place peacefully or without conflict. It would be petty and stupid, they contend, to overlook the creative quality of their work because of some unpleasantness which the great world revolution must necessarily bring with it. They maintain one should not overlook the glory of the new gospel because of ill-placed pity for Jews and Masons, Poles and Czechs, Finns and Greeks, the decadent English aristocracy and the corrupt French bourgeoisie. Such softness and such blindness for the new standards of morality prove only the decadence of the dying capitalistic pseudo-culture.
Von Mises sounded many of the notes that I am trying to sound. Hitlerism pretended to defend the west even as it betrayed every decent thing to be found in western culture. We see a similar dichotomy between what I have called New Judaism (anti-western) and Old Judaism (pro-western.)

One factor differentiates the evils of the 1940s from the evils afflicting our present society: Religion. Rabbi Friedman believes that
Living by Torah values will make us a light unto the nations who suffer defeat because of a disastrous morality of human invention.
This sounds like Nietzsche. The only difference is that Nietzsche categorized that "disastrous morality of human invention" as Jewish, while Friedman would use the word "Jewish" to describe his proposed alternative (pseudo-)morality. But that distinction is a matter of mere semantics; otherwise, both men are alike in condemning what Nietzsche called "slave morality." Might makes right, and violence is an absolute good. Anyone who preaches anything else preaches weakness.

Friedman differs from Nietzsche in one major way: The Rabbi claims that his "might makes right" weltanschauung has God's stamp of approval. This appeal to the supernatural distinguishes 21st century barbarity from the varieties predominant in early 20th or the late 19th. Like Friedman, the vile Christian Dominionists and Islamic jihadists argue that their disgusting philosophies have divine sanction.

Well, if we must confront the topic of religion, then let's do it.

"New Jews" (as I have defined the term) like Friedman spurn western morality by dictate of their tribal war god, whose name they are forbidden to utter. Of course, a restriction which Jews may fairly apply to co-religionists does not apply to me. Their god bears the name of yod-heh-vav-heh, which was probably pronounced Yahu. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Think of that name as "Ya-HOOOOO!" -- a war-shout which will be remembered fondly by any kid who grew up reading Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos (which was created by a couple of wonderfully talented Jews, I might add).

For the ancient Hebrews, that name served pretty much the same function it held for Sgt. Fury: It was a battle-cry to be uttered while shedding blood.

A close reading of the Bible demonstrates that the Hebrews were not originally monotheists (although some modern rabbis may pretend otherwise) but monolatrists, as defined here. Yahoo (my preferred transliteration) was not originally conceived as a transcendent, mystical entity. He was basically a brutish, ax-wielding killer-god like Ares, only stupider. Over time, Jews redefined Yahoo, spruced him up, made him look presentable in mixed company. The retarded brother of Ares became, at first, a God-in-chief like Zeus. Later still, the name Yahoo was dropped, and the Jews embraced the concept of a God who was an Inconceivable Something, immeasurably greater Zeus.

The Bible stitches together those very old tales of Yahoo and later writings about that transcendent Inconceivable Something. The stitches are pretty obvious when you look for them.

Alas, the old tales of Yahoo the Bloodthirsty Brute remained codified in scripture and sacralized by tradition. See, for example, the book of Joshua: That, more than any other, is Yahoo's book. As long as that disgusting scripture is considered holy, the spirit of the primeval war-god will continue to haunt us all -- Jew, Christian and Moslem.

Every time a warrior smiles as he guts an enemy, he does so at the behest of Yahoo.

Old Jews (again, as I have defined that term) have always seemed to view those gruesome ancient tales of Yahoo as vaguely embarrassing holdovers from a hazy past -- as folklore. Old Jews prefer the impossible task of trying to find words to describe that Inconceivable Something. New Jews don't bother to make the attempt: They worship the old god, the original god, the tribal god, the god of the book of Joshua, the god of gore.

As long-time readers know, my own religious inclinations come from that strange realm between agnosticism and Gnosticism. (Those who would accuse me of anti-Semitism should keep in mind that the inventors of Gnosticism were Alexandrian Jews.) To the Gnostics, Yahoo was the god of evil, and they were not afraid to rewrite or to toss away those ancient writings which still bore his taint. In Gnosticism, the transcendent entity -- that Inconceivable Something Above Everything Else -- was not Yahoo, was nothing like Yahoo. In their legends, Yahoo had pretensions of transcendence, of being The Only One. But he was kidding himself.

To the Gnostics, Yahoo was a pre-moral brat who (unfortunately) possessed great power. Remember the nearly-omnipotent kid played by Billy Mumy in that old Twilight Zone episode? The one who would blink you "into the cornfield" if you thought bad thoughts about him? That is Yahoo. Or at least a version of him.

Yahoo is the vile deity worshiped by people like Rabbi Friedman and Jerry Falwell and Osama Bin Laden. Yahoo is the god of all fundamentalists. Yahoo is the reason why fundamentalists of every stripe -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim -- have set their faces against everything considered decent in the western tradition.

The Gnostics rejected Yahoo, preferring the goddess Sophia. The name means Wisdom. She was once popular among the ancient Hebrews, and you can still spot her spirit floating through various Biblical texts, if you know where to look. Great Jews like Einstein and Mahler never had anything good to say about Yahoo. But they seemed to have great respect for Sophia, even though they did not use that name.

You may know this deity better under another name: Athena. The goddess of Wisdom.

She has also been called a goddess of war. Actually, her metier was not battle (although she always fought in the forefront, when fighting was necessary) but strategy. Planning. She was, more importantly, the goddess of the arts, of craftsmanship and culture, of the olive tree and all that it implies.

Democracy was invented in her city.

According to legend, she planted the first olive tree on the Acropolis. As long as that olive tree survives, democracy will survive. Many tyrants -- including the Nazis -- have tried to uproot that tree, but the secret worshipers of Athena have always managed to replant it, using an offshoot of the original. It's still there; you can go to Greece and see it for yourself.

The temple of the war-god Yahoo, built by the evil Herod, was destroyed long ago. Do not mourn for it. Athena's temple, the Parthenon, still stands on the Acropolis. It has taken quite a beating, but much of it is still there. It provided the architectural and spiritual model for many other fine buildings, including our Supreme Court and the Madeleine Church in Paris. The city of Athena is the shining city on the hill.

I am a disciple of Athena. Although I may not believe in her literal existence, I can -- paradoxically -- feel her presence, at least when I am my best self.

I believe that the Parthenon is the cradle of the west, the birthplace of democracy, the temple of Wisdom. The culture of Athens gave us Phidias, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Pericles, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Agatharchos -- the founders of our culture, the forebears of all that is civilized in the western tradition.

The elected leaders of Athens were ceremonially brought into the Parthenon, where the priestess of Athena (it's worth noting that Yahoo had priests, while Athena had priestesses and arrephoroi) told the politicians that they would lose all power if they ever lost respect for the rights of the citizens. I think we should have a ceremony of that sort nowadays.

I believe that all of the many sins of the western world -- the tyrannies, the mass murders, the racism, the enslavements, the long periods of ignorance and darkness -- were brought about not by men who worshiped the Goddess of Wisdom but by those who held her in contempt.

I still believe in her. And unlike the acolytes of the bloody Yahoo, I believe in western morality.
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I personally am intrigued by Buddhism-which is also anti gay-hard to get away from that huh.

One of the observations of the Buddhists is that people tend to overreact. Without a balanced calm mind you can't begin to see reality.

Righteous indignation can easily become indignation which can easily become rage and then blind hate.

I dont think you are anti Semitic-I think you are motivated by a sense of justice. But you lose credibility by being all angry and not at all respectful for the good things Israel has done.

As far as cosmopolitan Arab countries-http://t-vox.org/index.php?title=Homosexuality_laws_of_the_world

Death as far as the eye can see.Cosmopolitan? Maybe. What cosmos are you referring to?
 
If you merely defeat rather than destroy your enemies you are just creating problems for the future. The most efficient way to resolve conflict is to gather your enemies into one place and dispose of them en mass so that you may take advantage of "economies of scale."

Poisons are efficient at killing in quantity without permanently contaminating the environment Gas formulations are both efficacious and easy to use.

I recommend Zyklon-B for accomplishing your final solution.

Adolph H
 
[Snowflake said...
I personally am intrigued by Buddhism-which is also anti gay-hard to get away from that huh.]


It might be hard to get away from it, if it were in fact true...but it's not. Some ects of Buddhism became "infected" (as it were) by the established laws, social norms and/or prevalent religions of the countries where those sects sprung up. However, as for Buddhism per se:

With its emphasis on psychology and cause and effect, Buddhism judges acts, including sexual acts, primarily by the intention (cetana) behind them and the effect they have.

A sexual act motivated by love, mutuality and the desire to give and share would be judged positive no matter what the gender of the two persons involved. Therefore, homosexuality as such is not considered immoral in Buddhism or against the third precept, although this is not always understood in traditional Buddhist countries*.

Ven Shravasti Dhammika




Sergei Rostov


*(for example, this is commonly misunderstood in China or Tibet - SAR)
 
Joseph, a while back I almost posted here that we need terms to distinguish the extremists from the mainstream of the religions...eg, Hasidics vs Jewish, Opus Dei vs Catholics, jihadists or taliban vs Muslim, constructionalists vs Christian, etc.

I was trying to think of a way to denounce and differentiate the fanatics, extremists and fundamentalists from the mainstream. I recently rethought this, and decided, no, the mainstream deserve to be tarred along with their extremists because they need to be the ones to speak up against their own kind...or else suffer being lumped along with them.

However, I think you do a huge disservice to yourself for not distinguishing this. And...I think you're being swept up into something that very much is going to become anti-Semitic and that it's going to be a mainstream media-driven frenzy not unlike Obamamania. The Widdershins has been tracking this...not in their posts but in some of the comments. Following odd slants and omissions in AP, CNN, etc.

Meanwhile, here:

http://www.ajwnews.com/archives/2276

It's a Jewish commentator lamenting that Friedman has any following at all amongst any secular Jews, and compares him rightly with Rush Limbaugh. Hasidic Jews are like the Taliban faction of Islam. They are not "new" and this is nothing "new"--- there is no "new Judaism" and it is horrifying to see this suggested. Hell, I've detested Hasidic Judaism for ages, from the minute I knew about it. What's not to detest? They make women sit separate from them, and are not supposed to touch an "unclean" (menstruating) woman etc. I hate that crap and for years fantasized about touching the bearded creeps when I was "unclean" --- but, haha, I chickened out when fate put three of them within arm's reach at the perfect time!

Maybe the entire world would be justified in denouncing all of Americans for the actions of Bush-Cheney and the words of Rush Limbaugh. Maybe they would be justified in saying "this is a vicious new America" which despises justice and relishes torture.

If you think so, your column here is in line. And you should write, "This new America will never produce another Jefferson, another MLK."

But since Hasidic Jews are the ones that the "new" Jews, the secular Jews, broke off from ages ago, it is absurd to say "this new Judaism" won't produce another Einstein or Mahler or Kubrick. Of course. Because they are the Old Judaism, not the new. They never did produce the Einsteins or Kubricks and it stands to reason they aren't going to start now.

What's "new" is this cherry picking of drunk college kids and bearded Old Torah types and saying "look what the Jews are turning into..."

Actually...that's not new, either. But it's a pernicious meme and I would ask you to take a step back and another look and I hope, also, that more Jews speak up against any rising tide of extremism...but given that our own voices and our own protests were drowned out when the Bush-Cheney regime took over (and again more recently, against Obamamania), I'm not going to say that the equivalent didn't exist over in Israel when their right-wingers took over, and the same here. Because I never looked into it. The one link I found and posted here may represent an entire community of Jews who follow this and denounce their own Rush Limbaughs. Why not aid and amplify those voices instead? Or at least, also.

In other words, stand with and help amplify those who deplore the rightwing rise instead of lamenting that they're doomed and the loudmouth whackos mean they'll never produce any more greats!

Yeah, it sucks that they included the loudmouthed old school whackko in the line-up of discussion by other rabbis...but if that means the rise of a "New Judaism" that will never produce any more great citizens, how does that bode for Americans in general when we have the likes of Joe Scarborough, Glenn Beck, Olbermann, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc., on our airwaves daily?
 
Zee, in part when I drew the distinction between New Judaism and Old, I really meant new to ME. I mean, I always thought of Jews as being like the guys I knew growing up. I didn't know that creeps like Friedman existed -- at least, not until Kahane was thrust into the spotlight.

But I do think that the spirit motivating both Friedman and Kahane represents a growing force within American Judaism, and within the Israeli body politic. There's lots of evidence to support that notion.
 
I followed the link to In the Moment and the "retraction" by Rabbi Friedman. It was the comments section that provided the real eye-opener. Whereas there were many who expressed outrage at what the Rabbi had said, supposedly on behalf of Chabad, there were a goodly amount of comments that enthusiastically embraced his statements, especially "Larak" who recommended among other things, painting Moslem holy sites with menstrual blood.

I'll have to go with Mr. Cannon on this - this is "New Judaism" (meaning new to me!)

ex-pat
 
I like the Tibetan form of Buddhism and I like the Dalai Lama. I dont feel threatened by him on this issue the way I do by Pat Robertson but I do feel sad about it.


I do view Buddhism as largely a positive force and can separate out portions that disappoint me.
 
I always found the Jews I knew/know to almost always be pleasant, reasonable, tolerant, patient, accepting of human foibles and much more relaxed/less uptight than say, Lutherans (compare your average rabbi to your average Lutheran minister - oof!), or anyone else except Catholics (for many years I was the only non-Catholic in my neighborhood).

As far as the mainstream vs. extremes (or leadership), a good friend of mine says that "if the Vatican were to disappear, the Church would become way more liberal". Mainstream Catholics (in my experience) do speak out, but in the way Christians were commanded to by Jesus: do not judge (that is only for God to do), but instead, live your life
according to your beliefs, in other words, speak out by example.
Seems to me a lot of people (Christians or otherwise) do this.


Sergei Rostov
 
Love the way you play with spiritual symbolism and philosophy... and your references to the various gods and goddesses... I also have great admiration for the "qualities" of Athene and have a Statue of Liberty in my garden as an aspect of her for America.

Yahoo is too funny... I always thought it was Yahweh, pronounced yah-way. Like your pronunciation better ;-)

What are your thoughts on the Shekhinha as a type of goddess in some sects of Judaism?
 
Sergei, really? Lutherans? No clue...I have not read up on them, not do I know any, but there is a Lutheran church near me and they have the darned CUTEST messages out in front on their lit up bulletin board. So, I'm a little surprised and dismayed to hear they might be hard liners.

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Joseph---

"...represents a growing force within American Judaism, and within the Israeli body politic. There's lots of evidence to support that notion."

Joseph, agreed. Totally. In fact, it's something that has horrified me about Israel for a long while...and it has horrified my Israeli relatives.

My point is that there are plenty of Jews horrified by this...just as there have been Americans horrified since 2000 by the rightwing, corporate, neocon takeover here. And that while none of us make sweeping condemnations of "new Americans" because we *know* some of us have been fighting tooth and nail and protest body and blog word ---we simply do not know if the same unsung effort has been made in the Jewish community.

The link I provided had one such sotto voice, lamenting that any secular Jew would give a platform to that Old Torah creep.

And since I am not the only one who has noticed an actual media campaign to blur this distinction and to rewrite history, I finally spoke up to give you a word to the wise. If it is not sufficient I will blame myself for lacking the sophistication to explain what I mean.

But I have a feeling you will explore on your own some of the directions I mentioned. Because you can do nuance as well as broad strokes of truth and because it matters to you to grasp all the undercurrents.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me for you, in short order, to be able to articulate what it is I wish I could now lay out in indisputable detail.

It definitely has caused me to rethink my stance on blaming the mainstream for the excesses of the extreme/fundamentalists.

But if the meek are going to inherit...or save... the earth, they need to speak up, as in yesterday!
 
drogoneyes, if you're reading this...

The Yahu pronunciation is not just my idea of humor. (But the spelling "Yahoo" IS.)

As you surely know, YHWH was spelled without vowels in old Hebrew, and the Jews lost the original pronunciation.

But what many people don't know is that there was a Jewish colony established on the island of Elephantine in Egypt, on the Nile river. A temple -- not a synagogue: A second temple -- to YHWH was built there. The thing was probably built before the Babylonian captivity.

This means that Elephantine was home to a very old form of Judiasm. Much of what we call the Old Testament was written, or at least codified, during the period in Babylon.

There was much interaction with non-Jews and non-Jewish religions on Elephantine. Thus, there were -- and are -- ancient documents written in languages that had actual vowels.

These documents refer to the temple as the temple of Yahu. He shared the place with the goddess Anath. There is even a suggestion that Anath was Yahu's main squeeze.

Yep, Judaism was REAL different back in the old, old, old days. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Yahu might have been a shortened form of Ya-hoo-wah, something like that. You can see how that might have functioned as a fearsome war cry, something screamed by the ancient Hebrews as the soldier poured down onto their enemies.

As I said: Yahu was just a stoopid version of Ares.

Check it out: Go to Google and type in "Yahu" and "elephantine" and maybe "Egypt." You might also want to look up a book called the Hebrew Goddess by a guy named Petai. (I think that is the title. It's been a while since I looked this stuff up.)
 
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Friday, June 05, 2009

Why do they hate America?

"Jonathan" at Jewschool threatens violence against Max Blumenthal because Blumenthal dared to produce the video shown in the post below. Meanwhile, many other Jewschool aficionados try to pretend that the violent opinions expressed in this video do not reflect the views widely held in Israel and by Israel's supporters in America. We are told not to worry: These are just a bunch of drunken kids.

Bull. The threat against Blumenthal proves my point -- and completely disproves the reassuring blandishments offered by other Jewschoolers. Something strange and terrible is happening within modern Judaism. I think it is affecting the young more than the old.

Antipathy toward America and "western culture" is on the rise among Israelis and among right-wing Jews who support Israel. I've discussed the subject -- citing numerous examples -- here and here. I quote at length from one pro-Israel site which seems to regard the United States as Israel's worst enemy.

Face it: We live in an era in which Alan Dershowitz (nobody's idea of a drunken frat boy) actually thinks he can get away with calling Desmond Tutu a "racist." Israel is a country where newspapers defend the decision to make women sit in the back of the bus; any critics of that policy are accused of imposing "western secular culture" on Israelis. Children's books in Israel openly promote race hatred.

One can cite many more examples, but the point is made: The "drunken kids" in the video are Israel. The guy calling for Max Blumenthal to be beaten is Zionism.

Israel is no longer a bastion of liberal values and western culture. Perhaps it once was, but those days are past. Modern Israelis sneer at "western secular culture," just as they sneer at their funders in the United States. They openly call for the assassination of the American president. Race hatred has transformed modern Israel into a force that is just as capital-O "Other" -- as un-American -- as is any other nation or movement in the Middle East.

I must quickly admit that many Jews in the United States have not fallen prey to this tendency. The Rabbis here speak, for the most part, in measured and rational terms. They represent the form of Judaism that I once admired. (I do disagree with the good Rabbi from Thousand Oaks who describes Arab culture as "deeply tribal and Oriental." Compared to what? To the folks in Israel who want to relegate women to the back of the bus?) Alas, I do not think that this humanistic form of Judaism is on the rise. In fact, I think that the forces of humanism and reason are being shouted down.

Look once more at those kids in the video (in the post below). They are the future. And perhaps not just the future of Israel or of Judaism -- perhaps they are the future of all of us, of an entire globe driven mad by arrogance, religious fanaticism, bloodlust and stupid macho dreams.

By the way -- some suggest that inebriation excuses the kids who called for the president's murder. I'm reminded of this story about the possibility of parole for Susan Atkins, the woman who murdered Sharon Tate. She (Susan) was high on LSD when she did it. So do we extend the "inebriated kid" excuse to her as well..? Just wondering.
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Or its just more pent up aggression at the trends behind the veil of Illuminati agenda...
 
As usual, when the haters are exposed they get angry at the person that exposed them.

The abusers love to claim they are the ones being abused.

I post about the deranged blogstalkers harassing The Confluence and PumaPac and they complain that I am stalking them.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/be-afraid-be-very-afraid/
 
You ask, "Why Do they Hate America?"

Because they cannot survive without America.

When the very survival of a person - or a nation - depends totally on the generosity of another and forces them to keep going back for more, hat in hand... that kind of dependence always breeds great hatred.

History has taught us this lesson over and over and over and over...
 
When the very survival of a person - or a nation - depends totally on the generosity of another and forces them to keep going back for more, hat in hand... that kind of dependence always breeds great hatred.

They sure don't act like they depend on us for their survival. But if they do and they resent it then maybe they should figure out a way to live in peace with their neighbors so our help is no longer necessary.

No, I am not suggesting that the I/P conflict is all Israel's fault. There is plenty of blame to go around. But they could do quite a bit more than they have so far.
 
Any country that is governed by religion, sooner or later becomes a spiteful, hateful entity. Israel is no different from Iran....
 
The blogstalkers are showing who they are. Classic bullies meaning weaklings.

My brother never got in a fight in his life but outclassed the bullies by talking reasonably. His friends threatened them but nothing ever happened.
 
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"White Power" in Israel

Good god. Have you seen this video yet? I am stunned. I'm no Obama fan, but this is the ugliest damned shit I've ever seen...



Believe it or not, the above video was censored from Huffington Post on the grounds that it "had no news value" and "did not move the conversation forward."

Most of the kids seen here hold American-Israeli dual citizenship. Some are American Jews doing the indoctrination tour of Israel. I hope that any American citizen who, on camera, has called for harm to befall the president will have to explain his or her words to the Secret Service.

Something very ugly is happening to Israeli and Jewish youth. These hate-filled fundamentalist fanatics are the true face of Zionism. Do not listen to the older folks who will come forward with reassuring blandishments. Don't believe it when they tell you: "These were just kids; they don't represent the way Jews really feel." Bullshit. This is the real thing. This is the way quite a few modern young Jews talk when they think goys aren't listening. Or maybe the sitch is worse than that: Apparently, they have become so arrogant that they feel that they safely cry for a president's murder even while the goys are listening.

Jeez, even Klansmen had enough decency (or sense) to hide their faces behind sheets. These turkeys are brazen.

Damn, I hate feeling defensive about this president, whose nomination I opposed strenuously many months. But as far as I am concerned, these young hoods who refer to our president as a "nigger" -- who make watermelon jokes, who call for Obama's murder, and who deride Obama as a Muslim and a terrorist -- deserve just one response:

Swim, baby, swim!

Sometimes, the proper response to a display of hate is counter-hate, and that's just what I am feeling now. Israelis and American Jews who consider black people inferior and worthy of being killed are themselves inferior and worthy of the same fate they would impose on others.

Don't expect me to apologize for that statement: I never will. People deserve to get what they give. The despicable creatures in this video are so suffused with hate-propaganda and the unearned presumption of racial superiority that they have gone beyond the reach of rational argument.

Israel, in its present racist form, must end. We need a single-state solution now.

The world must wake up. Jewish fundamentalism is just as vile and dangerous as are Islamic and Christian fundamentalism.
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Just commenting here: We've seen the same type of fundamentalism in Muslims and Christians, as you said.

What I see here are a bunch of drunk kids. Hell one didn't even know who Netanyahu is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkeZ2P4SiY8

And there are worse out there.
 
I knew that we'd hear that rationalization: Just a bunch of drunk kids.

In vino veritas, and all that. Drink merely prodded these thugs to speak out loud.

Well, I won't allow that sort of rationalization. Here are the words of Joseph Dana, who helped to create the video:

"

It’s about entitlement, stupid.

Max and I went on to the streets of Jerusalem at ten o’clock on a Wednesday to ascertain the feelings of the young population about Obama’s upcoming speech in Cairo. As is often the case, the streets of central Jerusalem were not filled with native Israelis but American Jews. Doubtlessly anyone who has visited Jerusalem has encountered the droves of American Jewish kids that are sent to Israel to study for a period of time from Teaneck or Westchester. We asked people a simple question, “What do you think of Obama and Israel?” Most of the people that we talked to were dual American Israeli citizens. The answers in this video reflect the education and worrisome perspectives that many American Jews harbor towards Israeli politics. The sense of entitlement that the American Jewish community has when it comes to Israeli policy is on full raw display in the words of these young adults.

"Based on our interviews these people were from high socio economic backgrounds and had developed thoughts about current Israeli politics. The question is why more journalists are not covering this story. All you have to do is walk the streets of Jerusalem and you will find dozens of people that harbor the same beliefs. As a resident of Jerusalem, I can say that the people represented in this video are not members of a fringe group or simply drunk college kids. These people reflect the sentiments shared by many people in this country and this city. These people and their families are the core of the opposition to meaningful peace between Israel and her neighbors. This is what Obama is up against."
 
I should add that I'm not sure that Obama is going to do much of anything. Dana has faith in that man while I, obviously, do not.
 
Generally I like your commentary but I wonder, and I ask this in a neutral non aggressive manner, how you developed such a strong interest in Israel?

As a gay person, when I look at the Middle East my reaction is basically... look away. It is death to the gays everywhere you go.

The only exception seems to be Israel. Although it is a very religious country and the conservative elements hate the gays (fagolas)the government has shown gays some respect and tolerance.

I think that when you say that Israel is a racist state etc you should keep in mind that racists and gay bashers almost always walk hand in hand. The two never seem to leave each others side.

In light of Israel's tolerance towards gays then, perhaps Israel has some shining qualities you have missed?
 
Yeah, Israel is good on gays.

America was good on a lot of issues, even as we were brutalizing slaves and murdering the native peoples. Whenever you talk about Israel, always -- ALWAYS -- flash on the parallel to the genocide committed against the American Indian.

Hitler was kind to his dog. Benito made the trains run on time (or so says the legend). Stalin created the Moscow waterworks, which was one hell of an engineering achievement. Even Pol Pot must have done something right, although I'm not sure what.
 
Subcultures and cults have a side effect unfortunate to their members and invisible to them. Because cultists spend all their time hanging around with people just like themselves, they have no idea of or concern for what they look like to outsiders.
 
Anon, you said. Your words apply not just to the Jewish kids in that video but to lots of other people who get caught up in an incestuous, narrow grouping. Even trekkies are guilty.

Although I've not yet heard any trekkies call for the president's murder.
 
Those people weren't cultists in an isolated environment. They were partying in a public place and showed no hesitation or reticence to say what they did.

Alcohol loosens inhibitions, but it doesn't put words in your mouth.
 
Joe:

I watched that clip late last night and I was freaking appalled at what I heard. I do not support Obama. I did not vote for Obama. In fact, can't stand the man nor can I listen to his voice without wanted to destroy the TV But.....

Never...NEVER would I call the man a ni**er! never would I gleefully rant about his murder! Never!

As you may already know ( I mentioned it here once ) that I am a "Native American." My people have been on the receiving end of this type of hatred. And still are!

For those that try to explain this away as just some "Drunk" kids blowing off steam is disgusting. THIS IS HOW THE FEEL! Nothing can change the fact that these people are RACIST!
 
Since when is the fact that Israel is good for Gays a license for this state to exist and expand upon Arab territory and the backs of it's people? There was a comment by one of these drunken thugs in this video that echoes what I have heard for years about the morality of the founding of the state of Israel in that this kids Grandmother had a number tatooed on her wrist and apparently this alone justified the continuing genocide of the Palestinians. Does this make any sense at all? Because his Jewish ancestors were slaughtered in Europe, it's okay that he and his contemporaries can steal, kill and exterminate the occupants of this land since it's founding in 1948? All I can see from this is a blatantly egregious example of bravado built upon the lie that the State of Israel has a right to exist that supercedes any other nations aspirations. It is disgusting and (HOPE)fully the slanted US policy regarding what one French Diplomat called "The shitty little country" will be changed quickly for the salvation of the world.
 
It's probably just coincidence, but some 10-12 hours ago, at the top of the "recommended diary list" at the Great Orange Cheato was something titled "The secret service needs your help. NOW!"

Apparently some guy commented to the teller in a bank that he intended harm to Obama. Reported in some newspapers with pic of the guy, make, year, color, plate no. of car, his name (Daniel James Murray), yada, yada. Actually four diaries on same topic in last few days, but this one got over 400 recommendations on a Friday morning.

Not worth the look or reading in my opinion, but should a researcher want to see the diaries,
http://tinyurl.com/research-threat

Of course no group or institution would work together to intentionally manipulate public perception or influence events and national policy. Nor can I figure out why running such a thought object past public view would serve any nefarious cause. It just smells bad and I tend to view Kossiteland as evil.
 
Well, I won't allow that sort of rationalization.

Did I say anywhere that I agreed with what they said? No.

Were they a bunch of drunk kids? Yes.

Is this indicative of Israelis? I dunno, the kids sounded American, so is it indicative of Jewish Americans in Israel? Again, I dunno.

When I said I've seen worse I was thinking of the Favreau/Clinton feel-up cut-out. But notice please, I said **seen**.

The sense of entitlement that the American Jewish community has when it comes to Israeli policy is on full raw display in the words of these young adults.

I don't know much about the American Jewish community so I can't agree or disagree with that statement. I guess Joseph Dana does.
 
You should be ashamed for making and posting such trash.
 
I disagree with the good man who made that video in his comment quoted above (or rather, I would like to add a perspective to it.)

“These people and their families are the core of the opposition to meaningful peace between Israel and her neighbors,” he says.

While they may well be at or near the core—emphasis on “families”—I see the power and influence exerted by a relatively minute group in the world, or U.S., or even Israeli population, as being the more dangerous heart of the matter.

Stupid or evil opinions are one thing, the degree to which they can somehow control our lives and national policy is another.

I'm not sure that Obama is going to do much of anything either—or rather I am concerned as to what he WILL do. Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to a large degree controls access to the president, and Rahm’s brother, Ezekiel Emanuel, is White House Director of Health Reform, and special health-care advisor to Obama's Office of Management and Budget.

Oy vey! We The People are left with the right to die.
 
Fredster:

Those people were drinking but they don't appear very drunk. They made those comments to a stranger with a microphone and cameraman standing behind them.

Would you be as forgiving if that was a bunch of College Republicans talking about abusing and killing "fags?"

What if they were Arab-Americans talking about Jews?
 
Im an old man now but back when I was 19 I spent a week in a Yeshiva in Jerusalem. Not particularly interesting other than I'm half West Indian, and half Jewish - in fact my father was an Israeli. Myself, I was born in the West Indies, and brought up in London.

The Rabbis that taught me for the week, were generally very nice, and very scholarly. I'm grateful to them for teaching me a lot in a very short space of time.

However the other kids were often offensive. They were very skeptical of my right to be there - which is fair enough. But they were also directly rude to me. Racist to be specific - btw, other kids checking for circumcision in the showers is pretty dumb - Muslims are circumcised too.

Indeed the overriding impression of my visits to Israel have been of its racism. Perhaps its cos I look like an arab. But I have come across plenty of anti-black sentiment in Israel and among Israelis outside of Israel.

What was also striking was the ignorance. My Israeli relatives are all very scholarly. However the American kids visiting the Yeshiva were generally woefully under briefed on the country, the history and the Torah.

My favorite was the kid who asked who "Father Abraham was again?".

Harry
 
The world isn't painted in blacks and whites-people who see it that way miss a lot...
 
Kinda reminds me of the Obots' treatment of Hillary.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
 
Dreadful behavior. I thought of Bill Maher as I watched. Seeing that Blumenthal did it, here's how good I think he is.

Max Blumenthal broke one of the greatest stories in US politics and got no attention for it. In 2005, he wrote about the Republican ticket for statewide office receiving funds form the Conservative Citizens Council. It wasn't a few grand either. It approached one million dollars, if memory serves (I couldn't find the link). Since Pat Robertson & Falwell picked the ticket that year, the story had the potential to expose the complete outrage that had become the Republican Party.

True investigative journalism with highly relevant results; ignored by the media grandees. They can't stand the truth.
 
I actually know a kid in the video (the one that uses the n word ... ) for better or for worse. I never heard him say anything like that and he always seemed to be a nice kid.
No, these people do not represent Israel or Jews...they are all Long Islanders and idiotic.
 
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Another Windows 7 update

This is not going to become a computer software blog. I'm not qualified to write such a thing. However, the topic of Windows 7 has been very much on my mind recently, if only because I've been wrestling with the OS in beta form.

If you value your sanity, don't play with betas. In fact, you may not want to immerse yourself in any new OS until after the first service pack has come out.

Windows 7 is terrific, when it works. But there are problems.

1. As I noted earlier, the OS does not assign administrator rights to you. W7 thinks that you are an idiot. The program thinks you have no right to see hidden files or to change your hosts file. (On XP, seeing hidden files is easy. But don't even try it on W7. Bad things will happen to you.)

Without admin rights, you cannot install many programs. You cannot even use the root directory of a secondary data disc!

Nor is there any easy way to sign in as administrator -- you must, in essence, play a trick on the system (going in through the C prompt) before you can do so. Ony then can you assume your secret identity as SuperAdmin-Man.

This "admin rights" business gets annoying. REALLY annoying. Believe me.

2. Occasionally, you will see the dreaded pop-up message telling you that you need administrator privileges to proceed -- even if you are already logged on as an administrator. This happened to me when I tried to install a version of DBPoweramp Music Converter.

In fact, that's the very imbroglio which immediately preceded my recent crash. The very next boot, I got the horrifying message that NTLRD was missing. I am still not sure what NTLRD is, but without it, you can't start your OS.

3. Windows 7 has an image backup and restore function, very much like Norton's Ghost. Everyone should have a thing like this -- and everyone will, once Windows 7 is ubiquitous. That's a good thing.

The best policy is to put all of your programs on the C drive and all (ALL) of your data on one or more secondary drives. Once the C drive is perfect and pristine -- all of your programs installed, thoroughly cleaned and free of malware and defragged -- save an image of the whole thing to another (larger) drive. If you develop a problem, you can simply restore that image, placing it right back onto your C drive. Once more, it will be pristine. If need be, you can put that pristine image onto a brand new hard drive. However, you must never, ever place that image onto a friend's C drive (giving said friend free access to expensive high-end imaging programs) because, as Tricky Dick once put it, that would be wrong.

I made an image just as soon as I had my C drive the way I liked it.

With W7, there's no need for a third party image backup solution. It's all right there. And the thing backs up your image while you're still in Windows, which is very nice. With good old Norton Ghost, you had to restart the computer and work in DOS and the whole process took a long time.

But there's one small issue and two big issues afflicting the W7 image backup system.

The small issue is that the damn thing won't let you save an image preciesly where you want it to be saved. The program always heads for the root directory of a secondary drive and says: "There. I'm putting it there. Don't argue with me. It's going there."

The big issue occurs when it comes time to restore.

W7 would not find my image, even though it was right there!

The image was on a secondary hard drive which I use for data. W7 said: "Huh? I see no image here. You're crazy if you think there's an image file in here."

What I had to do was yank the data drive out of the computer -- physically -- and place it in a separate external enclosure, attached to the computer via USB cable. Those things cost 20-40 bucks, and not everyone has one. (I was able to borrow one.) Then and only then did W7 perk up and take notice of the image.

That's the first big issue. The other, even huger problem is this: By default, when you try to restore your system, W7 copies that image not just onto your C drive but onto every drive in your whole damned computer.

I should make clear (to those of you who have never done this sort of thing before) that when you restore from an image file, you will wipe out everything that previously was on your drive. That is, you will wipe out everything that was on the drive you are restoring to. Everything that was on the drive playing catcher, so to speak. VOOM! It's gone.

That's what you want to happen when you are restoring a C drive gone bad. But W7 places that image not just on your C drive but also on your E, F, and G drives. All the alphabet will become C.

This is a recipe for tragedy. I can see it happening: Users who have no previous experience of playing with image files will turn every damned drive in their system into copies of the C drive. All of their data will be gone, gone gone.

A lot of people have three or four or more drives (old and borrowed and retreived from the neighbor's garbage) hooked up, because, you know, all of that downloaded porn takes up a lot of space. Well, if you do the image restore thingie wrong, it's bye-bye porn. Bye-bye family pictures and document files and downloaded music.

As it happens, you can fiddle with the image restore settings to make sure that only your C drive is affected. But a lot of newbie users will not see those settings. The default mode is to put the image on everything. This decision was just plain bug-ass crazy. Why did Microsoft do it that way? Why on earth?

Even if you see the settings, it's hard to feel safe. I physically disconnected every drive except for the C drive and the external drive -- and even then I was, you should pardon the expression, shitting bricks, worried that something might happen to all of the data stored on that external drive.

4. In my case, even the new image did not solve my problem. I still saw the awful words "NTRLD missing," which is Microsoftese for "You're boned." So I used the CD disc that came with the hard drive (don't throw those things away or use 'em as coasters!) and reformatted the drive.

Then, just to be safe, I decided to forego imagery altogether. I re-installed everything. From scratch.

Which puts me where I am right now. The whole process took me away from my blog for a day. I had to forgeo all of my usual activities. I still have not seen the news.

So what's been going on? Has there been a coup? Did the Martians invade? Did a tsunami put the east coast under water? Did Dick Cheney explode the Washington Monument with the power of his mind? Did Barack Obama announce that, yes, there will be martial law, but it will be a kinder and more humane form of martial law than George Bush would have imposed? Did Britney shave her head again? Did Michael Jackson and Britney shave each other? That would be cool...
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It's not so much that Win7 thinks the user is an idiot, it's that the 'user' could be a virus or other malware. I'm sure you're familiar with the lessons learned about allowing email attachments to execute with administrator privileges. Allowing users to log in and run everything with full administrator privileges has proven not to be the safest way to operate a networked computer, so there *shouldn't* be an easy way to do it. Sorry, but the 'admin rights' issue is here to stay unless we go back to ROM-based operating systems like the Commodore 64 had, or we move to something like the iPhone, where the OS provider decides what and how software can be installed in your hardware and there are no admin rights available to the user.

That said, it does sound from your description that work needs to be done to allow for more convenient administration before the final release. Sudo (used in most Unix and Unix-like OS's) is a good example of convenient authenticated temporary privilege escalation for administrative tasks.

NTLDR (NT Loader) is boot code. As I'm sure you've seen, the OS won't boot without it. It is called from the MBR (master boot record - the first block on a hard drive). My guess is your MBR got corrupted since restoring a known-good image didn't fix it (the MBR is not usually part of the 'C:' partition that gets imaged, but NTLDR is). Here is a link which describes NTLDR issues fairly well. Should you encounter that trouble again, you may be able to fix it without complete re-install or even partition restore.

And yes, don't install a beta OS on a computer you plan to rely on. With Microsoft, that usually means wait until Service Pack 2 (or as you suggest, at least SP1). Some of the problems you describe (restoring an image to all attached hd's by default makes no sense whatsoever) arguably shouldn't have made it to a public beta release.

Did Barack Obama announce that, yes, there will be martial law, but it will be a kinder and more humane form of martial law than George Bush would have imposed?

LOL!!! You had me rolling with that one -- so true!
 
About that admin hassle. Have a look here.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/507-built-administrator-account-enable-disable.html?filter
 
I'm sure there's a very good reason you haven't considered OS X...

I mean, the whole admin thing. OS has a real shell, and whenever you need to do something administrative, you just become the admin momentarily with the sudo command...
 
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Thursday, June 04, 2009

Ooops...

I am back online! However, right after I re-acquired the internet, Windows 7 suddenly developed a serious malfunction. The dreaded message "NTRLD is missing" appeared at start-up, preventing a boot of the system. Even backing up from an image of the drive did not fix that problem. I had to do a complete reformat of the drive and a re-install of the OS.

So now it's a matter of re-installing my programs. Hell, I haven't even checked the news yet today. See you in a few...

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That sucks brother Cannon!

Glad to have you back! My day is not complete without some of your wit!
 
I've been wondering about how Windows 7 was working outfor you. I know you had said it was pretty good. You were the first person I know to use it. Come back soon Joe please. You're getting a heap of praise over at Confluence this am.
 
It's a Microsoft conspiracy to eat up your time < grin >.

In less time than it takes to reformat etc., I just watched Mike Moore's "Sicko" and also some cartel media propagandizing against it.

For the one other person who also missed it a year or so ago, all 2 hours are here at Google Video:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/Moore-Sicko
 
I have Windows 7 loaded in an old computer that had Windows 98. I got it loaded but can't find drivers for older boards.
I'd say it's great for tinkering but I wouldn't try to use it for everyday computing.
Microsoft cautions you about uning it on a primary computer system.
Good luck and keep us up to date on how it works out.
 
Windows 7 must be really old. I use Windows 95
 
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Wednesday, June 03, 2009

Let's play the blame game

I'll have more to say on the topic soon -- just as I have said much on the same topic in the past. But right now, I want you to check out myiq2xu's amazing work on the Confluence. He outlines his picks for the "bottom ten" list of nasty events markings Obi's trip to the nomination. Here's the tenth:
10) The “3am ad” fauxrage – Hillary ran an ad questioning Obama’s experience as a leader. Obamanation reacted with allegations of racism and party treason. The 30 second ad showing sleeping children was even compared to the racist movie epic “Birth of a Nation.” Really - I shit you not – in the NYT’s no less.
We cannot allow this history to slip into the past. We cannot allow revisionists to pretend "Well, there were problems on both sides." We cannot allow the many Homer Simpsons within Obotland to mutter "Let's not play the blame game."

The Obots really, really were 100 percent in the wrong. Never forget that fact. Never let them forget that fact.
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Your posts provided most of my links.
 
There is nothing nastier than what happened in Michigan and a lot of Clinton supporters to this day still don't know how bad it was. The bill that passed out of the legislature was written by Republicans, and moved out of the Senate without any Democratic votes. In the house, as many Dems voted for it, and as didn't vote for it. It went to court, got bounced back for cleaning up AND NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT VOTED FOR THE FINAL BILL THAT ACTUALLY MOVED THE PRIMARY DATE UP. NOT ONE. Clinton was docked votes for the actions of Jennifer Granholm and Jennifer Granholm only.

Idiot prophylactic - yes, I know Dems voted for the original version. I acknowledge that in my post. Yes, I know Granholm was allegedly a clinton supporter.

Here's Wayne Barrett of the Village Voice on the subject:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-barrett/could-the-republicans-cou_b_94158.html
 
Of course some of us just thought the 3AM ad was stupid.
 
There seems to be a major effort underway to rewrite recent history. Triggered perhaps by Eric Boehlert's new book "Bloggers on the Bus" the hardcore Kool-aiders are trying to claim that everything was hunky-dory last year until Hillary and her supporters ignited a race war.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/this-is-why-we-cant-get-over-it/
 
Anonymous 1:41 AM
You are of course welcome to your opinion about the 3 am ad. The topic here was the acusation that the ad was racist. That by attmepting to highlight her experience and capability (which ads are supposed to do), it could ONLY mean she was attempting to portray Obama as a scary black man. Even it was not effective, or if it bored you, it was not racist. In any way. At. All.

myiq, I read your post and all the comments. Great job. And I thought you captured the exact essence of what went so terribly wrong.

Many laws are created to make something that was already done illegal. For me, a silver lining from the 08 primary would be laws created to stop the caucus fraud, laws created to stop what happened in the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting.

He is a 'dirty' president becuase of the cheating used to get him the job. Even if he does well in the job, which I doubt, I will never forget HOW he got there. I hate to use an analogy that may seem sexist, but cannot think of another. (Early morning.) Let's say someone sleeps their way to the top at their job, and it is a well known fact among their co-workers. This person left a trail of people fired and broken marriages and stabbed backs on their way up. Now, do you think even IF that person does okay at the job, that they ever deserved it or that their performance will ever overcome the means by which they got the job? Nope, the end does not justify the means.

Obama cheated. And many people helped him cheat--sometimes even without his participation. A person of intergrity would have refused to accept the 4 delegates Hillary earned. He didn't need them, after all. He could have made a wonderful speech about how those delegates are not earned by him and he will not accept them. Would have made no difference in the end, but he would have shown a smidgeon of intergrity. He chose not to. He is an opportunistic cheat. Will always be.

And he won't be that great a president. I am over our president not being Hillary, but I will never get over it being him. A cheat. A slimeball.

emjaybee
 
I fully and heartily blame them--this is no game. And I want an apology. But we're not going to get it because this is pretty much how things were supposed to go.
 
Oh yeah, the obots were sooo evil and they were all individually controlled by Obama himself while Hillary supporters were like little angels or kittens and always the poor victims.

And sure, you have a very objective view of all this. It's not all about your bruised ego and a very childish vendetta against people you had a flame war with.

If I go around the web posting racist comments pretending to be you, does it make you a racist ? No wonder you have a keen interest for conspiracy theories, you have a very simple view of the world. The way you talk, you confuse the actions of some morons with a whole group.

Do you think that the "You won't vote for Hillary because she's a woman!" accusation from the feminist brigade was better than the "You won't vote for Obama because he's black" of the moronic "obot"?
 
"Us" meaning Obots? Right, because the cool intellectual Obama would never run a "stupid" ad.

The Obamazoids are already trying to rewrite history, claiming that Hillary supporters were just as bad. Of course they have zero evidence of it and there is ample evidence to the contrary, much of it compiled at this site. And every day of the Obama administration provides another opportunity for a big fat "I told you so, you morons."
 
I will never forget. I ain't much into forgiving either. However if someone were genuinely contrite and not making a bunch of b.s. statements about there being plenty of blame to go around I might get down off my high horse.
 
lori, I didn't know that about Michigan, but that's what happened in Florida, too.
 
Oh yeah, the obots were sooo evil and they were all individually controlled by Obama himself while Hillary supporters were like little angels or kittens and always the poor victims.

And sure, you have a very objective view of all this. It's not all about your bruised ego and a very childish vendetta against people you had a flame war with
.

Strawman much?

I specifically said in my post that I wasn't claiming that HRC's supporters were blameless. Among other things it was an issue of proportionality.

I suggest you read my post about LOONS (Lying Obot Optical Neuropathy Syndrome)
 
myiq, I'm not going to allow the bots to have even that much of a foothold for their delusional revisionism.

Yes, the Clinton supporters were 100 percent in the right.

The Obama supporters were 100 percent in the wrong. They lied, they cheated, they astroturfed, they mounted a cult of personality and they acted like Moonies on meth.

Yes, it really was and is that cut and dried.
 
By "proportionality" I meant responding to a squirt gun with a shotgun kinda thing.
 
The Jews were most objective about Hitler and the Holocaust. The good Germans and Nazis were crazy. And Obama is shaping up to be quite the totalitarian just like we predicted.

If Nazis attacked and persecuted Jews through lies, how did Jews respond? Is it better to not respond to attacks or does responding help us clarify our views? I'm not sure.

It's helpful to also think of PUMAs like a battered women's and men's group. Women and men in these groups stick together, tell their stories to stay sane and support each other.
 
I agree 100% with Joseph.

And I have not seen any element of PUMA as racist.

PUMA started the same way the Second Wave started. As a reaction to sexist, leftist, white, male, anti-war activists.

It was painted as racist by black patriarchs to dissuade black women from becoming feminists.

I now believe what Violet Sox says which is that Second Wave feminists were not racist at all and were simply leftist and conservative women gaining consciousness against the sexist, leftist, white, male, anti-war movement. Intersectionality was a different point that came into being in the 80s and 90s. PUMA is not racist at all just like Second Waver were not racist.

They are maligned by black patriarchs because they are a threat to the civil rights movement. Now both men and women Obots of all colors are Eldridge Cleavers putting race before gender.

The most racist PEOPLE I encountered in my life let along feminists were white Third Wave feminists, namely white commenters on the LJ group feminist and commenters at Pandagon and Feministe before intersectionality became cool. There was one particularly nasty commenter at Feministing named MsJane but it was better than the other two blogs. In 2007, intersectionality and feminism bashing became cool.
 
Anon -


If I go around the web posting racist comments pretending to be you, does it make you a racist ?

I take it this is your way of trying to claim that the Obama campaign (and Obama himself) didn't call Hillary a racist. Well, that's dead wrong. His press secretary sent out a four-page memo detailing how racist Hillary was. Jesse Jackson Jr. (Obama's national campaign chair) called Hillary a racist during the New Hampshire Primary. Obama did as well, in speeches in both North Carolina and Mississippi. The fish rots from the head, as the saying goes. And his supporters got the message.


Now, the fact that caucus cheating on the part of Obama supporters was significant, widespread, and entailed the same tactics doesn't mean the campaign ordered or coordinated it, but it certainly had to be aware of it (there were 2000 signed citizen complaints from Texas alone, not to mention on-duty-police who witnessed it); an ethical person would have refused to accept the benefits of it - especially when there was so much of it - but Obama did not, which speaks volumes about his character.


Sergei Rostov
 
[Cross-posted at TC]

One item I wish had made the list was the incident which for me was "the straw that broke the camel's back": When the Obama campaign (in the person of David Plouffe) went on TV and said Hillary was responsible for the assassination of (Pakistani Prime Minister) Benazir Bhutto...a despicable tactic worthy of the worst of conservative Republicans.


Sergei Rostov
 
That was me, donna darko.

You were right to call the last 18 months an "atrocity" like the Holocaust. We won't forget. Never again.

Progressives did not become faux anti-racists until after Edwards dropped out January 30 meaning when only Obama and Clinton were left all this faux anti-racism came about as a cover for sexism to push Clinton out.
 
I know it's faux anti-racism because OpenLeft and DailyKos were very racist against Obama before Edwards dropped out. Then Bowers wrote this unintentionally hilarious post called OpenLeft Was Never Biased Against Obama.
 
Yes, the PUMAs were right. The Obots are foul-mouthed Philistines and Clinton-haters. Thanks to them, the Democratic Party is screwed.
 
Yup, Perry -- and for a long time to come. The party has trashed its principles, abandoned its base, and turned into a craven, corrupt shadow of the Republican party. Ss Dr. Evil would say, "you're Evil Lite: Not quite evil enough."

I was around for the feces-flinging extravaganza that was the Dean-vs.-Kerry interparty fight, but even that epic pie fight never reached the levels of hysteria that the Obama campaign induced in its foot soldiers. I witnessed the Great Purge of Edwards supporters and their ineffectual fight to maintain a presence on sites like the Giant Cheeto.

That, too, was nowhere close to the extremity of the Obots. The Republicans at their most Clinton-deranged impeachment-addled heights could only dream of reaching the heights of rage, incoherence, lunacy, and deranged viciousness that the Obotti achieved.

Never seen anything like it.

And yes, I do want an apology but I don't expect one from these diaper-soiling brats. So I'll just continue to quote the father of another noted Hillary supporter: "I told ya not to be stupid, you moron!"
 
Oh, I will also add that it's not suprising Obama accepted the benefits of unethical and illegal tactics used by others: in both his IL State Senate and US Senate campaigns, his opponent's sealed divorce records were mysteriously UN-sealed...in the first case leading to said opponent's direct defeat (name escapes me), in the second case leading to said opponent's (Ryan) replacement with an unelectable other (Alan Keyes).
Had it been me (or any ethical person, really), I would have at the very least said, "I don't want to win this way, it's not right...."


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More filler

Nibbles again...

Still not up to real posting, but in continuing with this week's comic book theme--here is a fun site that lets you create your own hero/heroine. Arguably safe for work. As safe as this site is, anyway.
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Filler

Nibbles McGee here...

I'm supposed to come up with intelligent discourse for the blog while Joe is away, but I'm not in the mood. Instead, I will leave you with Joe's most recent offerings and this really, really Not Safe For Work link to a site of funny comic book reviews.
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When I saw "Samantha Brown! You Have To Get Out Of Here. YOUR VAGINA IS HAUNTED!” I almost peed myself laughing.
 
The thing is, the "haunted vagina" line may have been intended as funny.

I've seen previous issues of Tarot, and my first glance at the titular (heh heh) heroine brought one name to mind: Russ Meyer.

Back in college, my friends all loved Russ Meyer movies more than I did. I've seen only three -- "Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!", "The Seven Minutes," and "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls." I've caught bits and pieces of others.

Meyer's movies CAN be pretty funny, and I admire the way he creates his own alternative fun-house universe. But the joke wears thin. I guffawed at "Pussycat" for about 30 minutes. But after that, I came to the realization that I was, for the first time, bored out of my brains while looking at large-breasted women frolicking about on screen.

"Tarot" struck me as entertainment in the same vein. If you understand that the author INTENDS to write arch, over-the-top dialog, then that "haunted vagina" line really is the kind of thing that Meyer (or screenwriter Roger Ebert!) might have concocted.

Neither Meyer's films nor the Tarot comics ever struck me as erotic. "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" is about as sexy as a bucket of used engine oil. Although the comic's artist is quite good -- I forget his name -- he favors a gaudy, over-lit look. I prefer mystery and atomosphere.

Two questions:

1. Can comics be sexy? Alan Moore and his ladyfriend Melinda Grebbie did a series called "Lost Girls" which he, with refreshing candor, describes as pornography. At the same time, it's supposed to "thinking persons'" porn. The story concerns the dalliances of Alice (of Wonderland) Dorothy (of Oz) and Wendy (of Neverland) -- and some, uh, animals. It's all very arty.

Being a Moore fan, I really wanted to like it. But the thing's a yawner.

Look, no-one fantasizes about Dorothy. (We're talking about a Dorothy sufficiently grown up to get past all worries about pedophilia.) She's an ordinary farm girl.

It's like fantasizing about a Big Mac. Why fantasize? Why not just head into a McDonalds and buy one?

We fantasize about the unobtainable, becasue we think that through it, we may attain transcendence.

Now, "The Road to Oz" contains an exquisite line drawing of Polychrome (a beauteous rainbow demi-deity) kissing the even more beauteous Princess Ozma. THAT's transcendence. This image had an effect on me when I first saw it, even though, at the time, I was maybe seen years old. It struck me as sexy before I even knew what sex was.

That illustration suggests a direction that Moore perhaps should have explored.

So what's my idea of a sexy comic book character? Vampirella.

But ONLY as drawn by Jose Gonzales. He turned her into such a complex, fascinating character! The expressions on her face conveyed more than the wretched dialogue ballons ever did. She was elegant, mysterious, conflicted and sophisticated. That was the key to her appeal.

The later version of the character (as seen in the 1990s revival) was garbage.

2. "Tarot" has quite a few female, and even feminist fans. I'm not sure why. Twenty years ago, the mere sight of all that boobage would have triggered the Standard Feminist Rant.

("Don't you know how many young girls suffer from body image issues?" Oh, stuff it. I never looked like Fabio, even back in the day, but you never heard me whine about it. And no, that's NOT a different situation.)

I think Tarot buys forgiveness from feminists by including a lot of pseudo-wiccan imagery and dialogue. Apparently, as long as you include a few buzzwords -- the Goddess, Blessed Be, Merry Meet and all the rest of that withcy-poo crap -- you can pretend that your porn ain't porn.
 
"The Road to Oz" contains an exquisite line drawing of Polychrome (a beauteous rainbow demi-deity) kissing the even more beauteous Princess Ozma. THAT's transcendence.
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Wow, Joseph...that takes me back! "Back in the day" I took my copy of that book and had that image copied onto transfer paper and ironed it onto a tank top. I wore that shirt for ages until the image was about worn off. I probably still have the shirt somewhere.
 
Zee, we both mis-recalled that image. Ozma kisses Dorothy. A page later, she takes Polly by the hand.
 
Well, actually, Joseph, I didn't want to clarify that the image I copied was from the back of the book, was in full color, and yes, was with Dorothy. I couldn't remember if the version on the back of the book varied from the one inside, and the book is packed away at the moment so I couldn't go check! The one I copied was their heads only, and there was a kind of "sun burst" design surrounding them.
Is that the same one as the one inside the book? Whichever... it was a lovely blast from the past to remember!

Did you see "Return to Oz?" I loved Fairuza Balk as Dorothy, and I thought they did a fabulous job with both the blending of two books into one, and the execution of the atmosphere and magical characters. But, of course, they had to blend books two and three...there is no way they'd have followed #2 with Tip as the main character....only to have him discover he's really a princess!
 
Zee, "The Land of Oz" has the scariest ending of all time. I hated it when I was young.

Now, I think the parody of feminism -- the bit about General Jinjur -- is hilarious. And I think a modern adaptation would work well.
 
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Monday, June 01, 2009

Inglorious Summers

Here's your "Holy crap!" moment for the day. It comes to us by way of Dakinkat at the Confluence and Mark Ames at Alternet, who have uncovered some more unsavory facts about Larry Summers, the noted sexist and former Harvard president who functioned as Clinton's Treasurey Secretary and who now directs Obama's National Economic Council. Ames poses the musical question:
Is Larry Summers taking kickbacks from the banks he’s bailing out?
Why did Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Morgan Stanley steer millions to a company Larry Summers directed while he administered "stress tests" on them?
And do we now know the reason why those institutions survived the stress test in a better-than-expected fashion? Back to Ames:
Last month, a little-known company where Summers served on the board of directors received a $42 million investment from a group of investors, including three banks that Summers, Obama’s effective “economy czar,” has been doling out billions in bailout money to: Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and Morgan Stanley. The banks invested into the small startup company, Revolution Money, right at the time when Summers was administering the “stress test” to these same banks.

A month after they invested in Summers’ former company, all three banks came out of the stress test much better than anyone expected -- thanks to the fact that the banks themselves were allowed to help decide how bad their problems were (Citigroup “negotiated” down its financial hole from $35 billion to $5.5 billion.)
Don't forget that Summers tried to wrestle Chris Dodd into supporting an attempt to lift pay caps on executive compensation at Citigroup. As Dakinkat notes, the Dow has de-listed Citibank. You may be able to fool the Obama administration, but you cannot fool everyone.

Here's a fun fact: When Summers joined Revolution, it was called GratisCard. As in "Get out of jail free," perhaps?

Preliminary Googling identifies Revolution Money as an attempt to compete with PayPal. You'll want to check out this rather ominous story:
Revolution Money Raises Another $42 Million For Alternative Payment Service Nobody Is Using
Steve Case’s startup Revolution Money announced a series C funding today of $42 million led by Goldman Sachs. Case and other existing investors (Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, former AOL vice chairman Ted Leonsis, former Charles Schwab CEO David Pottruck, and JP Morgan vie chairman David Golden). That is on top of $50 million the company raised is September, 2007.
Hmm. How does a start-up of this sort attract that kind of heavyweight support?
In tandem to its regular credit card, it also operates Revolution MoneyExchange, an online payment processing service that is trying to compete with Paypal. MoneyExchange is basically a loss leader to get people to sign up for the credit card. The problem is that nobody is really using MoneyExhange.

Only 33,000 people in the U.S. even visited the site in February, down from a marketing-fueled high of 742,000 a year before in March, 2008, according to comScore.
For more background on Revolution and Steve Case, go here. The obvious question: How much of that $42 million goes to Summers?

Of course, this is far from the first time that Summers has been accused of being compromised:
We discovered, for instance, that Lawrence Summers, the president’s chief economic adviser, made $5.2 million in 2008 from a hedge fund, D. E. Shaw, for a one-day-a-week job. He also earned $2.7 million in speaking fees from the likes of Citigroup and Goldman Sachs...
Some spoilsports raise the conflict-of-interest question about Summers: Can he be a fair broker of the bailout when he so recently received lavish compensation from some of its present and, no doubt, future players? This question can be answered only when every transaction in the new “public-private investment plan” to buy the banks’ toxic assets is made transparent. We need verification that this deal is not, as the economist Joseph Stiglitz has warned, a Rube Goldberg contraption contrived to facilitate “huge transfers of wealth to the financial markets” from taxpayers.
While president of Harvard, Summers did well-recompensed work for another hedge fund called Taconic. He later tried to install a founder of Taconic as the administrator of the TARP funds. It's impossible to escape the conclusion that this guy's relations with the finance industry are incestuous.

Here's my question. The Republicans are going after the Obama administration on every front, and they have mounted a whole bunch of arguments that are more strained than baby food. So why do they never criticize Larry Summers?
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Go look at the number of folks that get REALLY huge donations from the big 9 financial institutions that started that lobbying firm together is unbelievable. This is the result of monopoly power and rent-seeking behavior. It's textbook. These folks are huge donors to both parties, but more significantly the biggest donors to the current white house clan. Senator MBNA is now Vice President, just as an another example.
 
Larry 'the world's a shitty place' Summers also acted as an advisor to many of the Harvard thiefs who went over to post-Gorbachev Russia to advise the Russians on privatisation, and wound up engaging in a series of banned financial transactions (e.g. investing in enterprises that would benefit from privatisation funds). The feds, who provided financial support to Harvard, ultimately sued Harvard and the case was settled for millions.
 
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Robert Samuelson, racist

As we learned during the 2008 primaries, anyone who questions the Lightbringer must be a racist. It is my sad duty to report that Robert Samuelson has succumbed to the scourge of bigotry:
Obama has inspired a collective fawning. What started in the campaign (the chief victim was Hillary Clinton, not John McCain) has continued, as a study by the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism shows. It concludes: "President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George W. Bush during their first months in the White House."

The study examined 1,261 stories by The Post, The New York Times, ABC, CBS and NBC, NEWSWEEK magazine and the NewsHour on PBS. Favorable articles (42 percent) were double the unfavorable (20 percent), while the rest were "neutral" or "mixed." Obama's treatment contrasts sharply with coverage in the first two months of the Bush (22 percent of stories favorable) and Clinton (27 percent) presidencies.

Unlike George Bush and Bill Clinton, Obama received favorable coverage in both news columns and opinion pages. The nature of stories also changed. "Roughly twice as much of the coverage of Obama (44 percent) has concerned his personal and leadership qualities than was the case for Bush (22 percent) or Clinton (26 percent)," the report said. "Less of the coverage, meanwhile, has focused on his policy agenda."
My question: Is it going to go on and on like this, or will we all wake up one day to discover that someone has flipped a switch, turning all that media love into media hate? If that happens -- when it happens -- who makes the decision to flip that switch?
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Does this mean we're not getting a pony?
 
Oh yes. What leadership Brand Zero shows. Such as his silence on Prop 8. And his watered down, tortured statement on the assassination of Dr. Tiller.

I do believe the switch will come. It will take a national awakening such as happened during Katrina. But even then, as it happened with Bush, no apologies, no soul-searching, simply a mass passive acknowledgment that the suit never did have an emperor in it.
 
The race-baiting was so bad that no one wants to be subjected to a repeat, let alone be the focus. They're going out of their way to appear enlightened and thus completely ignoring their responsibility to an open society.
 
"Is it going to go on and on like this, or will we all wake up one day to discover that someone has flipped a switch, turning all that media love into media hate? If that happens -- when it happens -- who makes the decision to flip that switch?"It's gonna go on and on until someone else other than the MSM flips the switch. Rachel Maddow is already making some noise, but I just found a video from one of the KoolAId Kidz raising hell about Gitmo, and the lack of bi-partisanship that was promised.

This should be interesting to watch - I just hope their revenge is served cold. it'll be better than Christmas. (was that racist?)
 
Even though the "Great Awakening" is, at least for now, a tiny little wakey-wakey for a small number of Obamacrats I am not enjoying the Schedenfreude like I thought I would.

Even yelling "we told you so you pinhead" isn't making me feel better. Perhaps having to live in the world they created is one of the reasons.

I suspect that when not if the switch is flipped I will be too goshwoggled to say much of anything. (that won't last long)

The hypocrisy of the MSM has been so blatant and so repulsive that I can find little to say about it. And if "Rachel Maddow" is trying to regain some semblance of legitimacy, in my case at least, it's waaaay to late lady. Once a lying piece of crap, in my book, always a lying piece of crap.
 
These kinds of favorable/unfavorable coverage metrics are meaningless without adequate (or ANY, in this case) context.

Bush's early months in the WH came after the taint of the election tussle that found him losing the popular vote, and to many eyes (probably half the country!), illegitimately gaining the electoral vote margin he was awarded by the SCOTUS for Florida.

Clinton's mere plurality win at at a low 43% in the 3-way race, after 12 years in a row of GOP control of the WH had wired the town for Republicans, emboldened his critics so much that then-Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole immediately announced that he was going to represent the 57% who had voted against Clinton. Then Clinton's inexperience and indiscipline created multiple targets of legitimate criticism throughout the beginning months of his term.

By contrast, Obama won a majority of the popular vote and over a 2-1 electoral college margin, picking up regions of the country that hadn't gone for a Democrat in decades, AND his win represented an historic advance for African-Americans.

So, he was not weakened by the nature of his win, but instead greatly empowered by the strength of that victory, and his natural foes across the political party divide were gravely weakened by the unpopularity of their prior president and party, quite before the additional issue of racial politics' creation of its own Claymore mine field.

Besides all the above, the country is in a crisis that doesn't remotely compare to the beginning of the other two presidencies. It is natural for the country to rally around a new leader facing such crises, just as a president's approval rating skies to the 80-90% level at the beginning of war breaking out.

The press is cautious and usually does not go against a strong national consensus, the kind of strong national consensus that did not apply in the former two presidencies, but does in this case.

Comparing coverages might be a useful metric if all things were substantially the same. They are not the same, and not even close.

XI
 
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Reminder...

My internet service goes off today. It will return on the 3rd or the 4th. In the meantime, I will be visiting libraries -- which is my idea of a nerdly good time. So keep checking for new posts...

By the way: If you are not completely tapped out, I happen to think that Liberal Rapture does good work, worthy of support...

An Additional Rant (and this has nothing to do with politics): I've decided to confess a horrible secret. One of the ways I've made ends meet in recent years is by illustrating children's books -- and I don't work under the name "Joseph Cannon." I won't say which name or which titles, for reasons which should be obvious by the time you finish reading this post.

But I will say this: Too often, the wrong people write books for kids. The best stories for young people are written by childless uncles and aunts -- not not not NOT parents.

Dr. Seuss never had kids. Beatrix Potter did not have kids. L. Frank Baum had not reproduced when he got into the trade of juvenile fiction. I believe that Stan Lee did not yet have kids when he co-created Spider-Man and The Fantastic Four. Seigel and Schuster pretty much were still kids when they invented Superman, as was Bob Kane at the time of Batman's creation. Maurice Sendak was gay. E. Nesbit (Edith Bland) did not have kids. I may be wrong, but I believe that Norton Juster did not have kids when he wrote The Phantom Tollbooth.

Okay, so A.A. Milne and J.K. Rowling were proven breeders when they took up the trade. Every worthwhile general rule has exceptions.

The problem with parents is that they're too damned responsible. Their first instinct is to create didactic literature, designed to teach Important Life Lessons: "Bullies are bad." "Be a good sport." "Brush your teeth every day."

Kids hate that crap. Think back to when you were young: Did not your every instinct rebel against all hint of the didactic? Nobody could fool you: You could always smell an Important Life Lesson from a mile away, and you did anything you could to avoid it.

Yet parents can't help themselves. They want to impose rules and limits. They want to teach right from wrong. They want to sermonize: Be Kind to the Handicapped and Show Respect For Your Elders and Practice Safety First and Eat Your Vegetables.

Kids live in a constricted world, a world of limits and regulations and curfews and censorship and punishments. Naturally, they yearn to break the rules. They long for the transgressive.

That's where Uncles and Aunts come in.

Your Uncle was the babysitter who said "Sure you can stay up past midnight!" You Uncle was the first person to let you discover what beer tastes like. Your Uncle told you really (really really) scary stories just before bedtime. Your Uncle taught you how to pitch pennies and play poker. Your Uncle let you see movies that contained more violence and salty language than did the ones that Mom and Dad let you see.

When an Uncle writes a story for kids, he doesn't want to teach any damned Important Lessons. He wants kids to say Wow! Cool! Maurice Sendak provides an excellent case in point: His most famous story is about a young man who perpetually stays up past his bedtime in order to keep dangerous company.

I have never bred, at least not to my knowledge, and I am sick of illustrating children's books which will never be popular because they were written by breeders.

I'm considering putting together a series called Jimmy and Timmy. These books will be about two brothers aged 8 and 9. Sample titles:

Jimmy and Timmy Drive Mom's Car
Jimmy and Timmy: Fun with Shattered Glass
Jimmy and Timmy Explore the Old Factory
Jimmy and Timmy Find Daddy's Gun
Jimmy and Timmy and the Mustard Gas Canister
The Secret Service Investigates Jimmy and Timmy
Jimmy and Timmy in Gitmo
Jimmy and Timmy Feed Mr. Bear
Jimmy and Timmy Have Fun With Knives
Jimmy and Timmy's Emergency Room Holiday
Jimmy and Timmy Meet Pablo Escobar
Jimmy and Timmy Hang With Hef
Jimmy and Timmy Summon Baal
Jimmy and Timmy Make Nooses
Jimmy and Timmy and the Donner Party
Jimmy and Timmy's Guide to First Aid
Jimmy and Timmy Teach Vampirella the True Meaning of Love
Jimmy and Timmy: When Mr. Turtle Met Mr. Fan
Jimmy and Timmy Hack the Air Traffic Control System
Jimmy and Timmy: Gang Symbols Made Easy
Jimmy and Timmy: Why Kitties and Razors Don't Mix
Jimmy and Timmy and the Big NORAD Oops!
Jimmy and Timmy and the Wonderful Icepick Lobotomy
Jimmy and Timmy Start a War on a False Pretext
Jimmy and Timmy Make Farting Noises During the Second Coming
Jimmy and Timmy Discover Antinomianism and the Freedom from Consequence

As you might guess, I'm supposed to be finishing up a children's book at this very moment. It was written by a very nice lady who is a wonderful parent. I cringe to think about it.
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"Jimmy and Timmy Discover Mom and Dad's Secret Home Video Stash"

Jimmy and Timmy Go To Therapy"

 
From the Desk of Ms. Vandal...

"Jimmy and Timmy Find Mommy's Magic Vibrator"

"Jimmy and Timmy Meet Daddy's Special Friend"
 
Jimmy and Timmy Get Tried As Adults"
 
From "Jimmy and Timmy's Family Secrets":

What's this?
It's Sis!
See Sis in Bliss.
 
My brother-in-law (twice removed) - incidentally a talented albeit unemployed digital production artist whom I spent the evening moving into a homeless shelter - used to claim he had agreed to be godfather to our friends' son just so he could "take Patrick on his first mushroom trip" -thus setting the bar very high for any godparent needs I might one day have.

BTW, though, as someone who spent the Summer between my junior and senior years[1] of college as an intern with the Fabian Society, I should mention you've made the common[2] mistake of conflating Beatrice (Potter) Webb with Beatrix Potter. While the two were contemporaries, both dying in 1943, they were indeed two separate people - which is a shame, because I really like the idea of the author of The Tale of Peter Rabbit also being the Mother of
British Socialism.
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1. Although, to be precise, these were referred to by my nourishing mother only as one's 'third' and 'fourth' year.

2. Well, common enough among those who've actually heard of Beatrice Webb. Or at least a mistake I also made for a while.
 
A bit of a leap from my uncles to some of those titles, Joseph. But at 11, we had home-made (with a little help from unc modifying the auto leaf-springs) crossbows that would fire a shank through the L.A. phonebook with yellow pages. Way too scary; we reverted to aluminum bows on the crossbows.

Another "uncle" (much older brother-in-law of my buddy) showed us how to prime and start his bulldozer (about a D-4 or 5) and just walked off. We spent hours pushing dirt around.

Fired first rifle at about 10 years of age. May still have photo of skinny little twerp trying to hold up the "huge" single-shot .22 and sight it.

Times change.

Here's hoping better authors come to employ your talents. Really enjoyed your fresh observations.
 
Mazoola: I've corrected, and thanks.

I'm sorry to hear about your brother in law. I hope he gets to move out of the shelter soon...
 
Shel Silverstein was writing for Playboy when someone said to him, "dude, this is the wrong gig for you. You ought to be writing children's literature." And the rest is history. Lafcadio is one of my favorite books ever.
 
Hey Joseph! The key to writing any children's story is killing the parents off by chapter one. Anyone can do it, but it is tougher for "parental" authors to let the child characters careen off dangerously on their own. From Narnia to Bambi, take a look....no parents. At the most, say Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, you've got some clueless preoccupied eccentric adult, but no responsible parents. Mary Poppins leaves when the parents take responsibility for their family, and the kids' adventure is over.

As for AA Milne, as Dorothy Parker said, "This Tonstant Weader Fwowed Up."

Dr. Seuss filled his original drafts with swears and then substituted in the nonsense words.

I know a children's book illustrator, and he moved into writing his own books. Sadly, if the first one doesn't sell some magical number, the series is killed, but I saw he has a new stand-alone book out now...though I think the series they killed was extremely short-sighted of the publisher.

Meanwhile, if you're not into writing your own, don't fret...some of us collect old Golden Books, not for the stories (tho some became classics) but because of the amazing illustrations.
 
Some great observations, as usual. For further corroboration of your thesis, you might want to add my favorite childhood author, Walter R. Brooks, author of the the Freddy the Pig series.

As for your series, I'd add the possibly too obvious title: "Jimmy and Timmy Explore the Medicine Cabinet."

Inky
 
In addition to the "must be responsible" urge that most parents-turned-children's lit-authors succumb to, I think they suck at writing kid's books because for the most part they can't bear to tell kids the truth about the world. It's too painful. In addition to being able to ferret out a needle-seized Major Life Lesson from the proverbial haystack, kids have an excellent radar for condescension, dishonesty and/or total bullshit. They don't want that crap in their reading material.
 
Zee: Ah, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang! Nobody ever called Fleming, Ian Fleming, a paragon of conventional morality -- although he had a downright worshipful attitude toward his own father.

I don't think an author needs to kill the parents in a literal sense. He simply needs to keep the child-protagonist separated from parental authority, in order to meet challenges on his or her own. "Five Children and It" and "The Wizard of Oz" provide the models here.

Nibbles, I think a good example of your point is the film "Time Bandits." What parent would have dared to write such a story? Especially the bit at the very end...
 
Generally in children's stories any adults (with the possible exception of the villain) are dimwits who are unwilling or unable to see things that are obvious to the kids.

Common themes:

1. Kid detectives solving mysteries

2. Mystical events and/or portals into other worlds that only the kids can see or access.

3. The kids see something happen (like a murder or robbery) and are not believed (and sometimes punished for lying) by adults.
 
Yeah, I meant "kill off" or separate....or have the parent be eccentric and distant. In Wrinkle in Time, the mom is a busy scientist and the dad is off imprisoned in some distant time/planet.

Incidentally, Madeleine L'Engle had children, as did Joan Aiken, who wrote a children's series every bit as excellent and innovative as L'Engle's Wrinkle in Time series...the Wolves of Willoughby Chase chronicles follow an alternate history of England.

Aiken did come from a family of writers, but these two authors show it is possible for "breeders" to write compelling kids' lit.
 
In answer to Zee, I would say that no one is really suggesting that breeders can't make great children's authors. Maud Hart Lovelace, Frank Baum, and Charles Schulz came immediately to my mind in that category. But it truly is impressive, in a world where breeders dominate, how many of the truly great children's authors were childless. In fact, two great pioneers of the genre, Hans Christian Andersen and Lewis Carroll, also never had children. And HCA, in particular, corroborates some of the theories postulated here about why parents generally don't make the best children's authors. Can you imagine, for instance, a tale like "The Little Match Girl"--the story of a child's hallucinations as she lights matches and freezes to death--being written by a parent?

Inky
 
Timmy and Jimmy and the Cannibal Witch doctor would probably go over with the kids more than Timmy and Jimmy and Miss Emily's bible study so I agree.

If I trusted you enough to use pay pal by the way my picture would have been the following.

Draw an image of Hillary debating Obama in front of the news media. Set it up so the picture can be enlarged. Title the picture " The Objective Media "

Set up the picture so you can enlarge it and when you enlarge the picture you see that instead of lines the two candidates are made up of quotes from the news media and blogs, with Hillary being drawn from objective real quotes like fuck her with a pitch fork and Obama from quotes like he will win the nobel prize-anyway I thought it was clever...
 
Also - some of the best children's books are great adult reading as well. Not all of us grow out of the "wanting to break the rules" as a fantasy stage. Hmm . . I also happen to be childless, so maybe that explains my continued love of Sendak, Dr. Seuss, C.S. Lewis, etc. I also LOVE the Lemony Snicket books, which, true to form with the best children's books has the parents killed off even before the first book starts. Don't know if the author's childless, though.
 
Hmm....interesting observation, Joe. I do not have children (not yet, anyway) and ironically I've been told by many that I get along with kids very well.

But I wonder about Roald Dahl, who wrote CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY and JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH...was he a parent when he wrote these, or not? And Berke Breathed--creator of BLOOM COUNTY--has written and illustrated a few children's books that are quite good.

Still, this is an interesting post!
 
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