In his recent "full" recounting of his history with Obama, Ayers neglects to mention the Annenberg Challenge. Silly Billy.
All of which brings us to today's theme:
Oh, he is so tortured and put upon. Poor Bill. He and a bunch of his wealthy, entitled friends managed to destroy Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) in no time at all by creating the Weatherman group and advocating the violent overthrow of the federal government. They ruined the reputation of the peace movement too. Lots of people back then assumed the Weathermen were CIA infiltrators. Bill Ayers never spent a day in jail, and now he’s a tenured professor. In fact lots of the ex-weathermen are professors, and they’re all pretty wealthy. They aren’t exactly living up to their socialist ideals, are they?"CIA infiltrators." Interesting thought, that. Although the CIA is not supposed to operate domestically, in the Vietnam era the Agency initiated a program called MHCHAOS, designed to spy on the anti-war left. The FBI, of course, had COINTELPRO, and the DIA had its own program, the name of which I forget.
Result: Paranoia. Many '60s student radicals will tell you that the perpetual game of spot-the-spook helped to cripple any attempt to get things done. But that game began because there really were spooks in the movement. ("Spooks" as in "spies": I don't want this blog to re-live the controversy depicted in The Human Stain.)
So how do you spot the spook? Look for three factors:
1. Infiltrators push for violent and illegal action.
2. They rarely or never serve time, even though everyone around them seems to get busted.
3. They somehow have plenty of cash.
Those three clues are the biggies. Perhaps Bill and Bernardine can think of other indicators.
Here's one reaction to Ayers' Truthout piece:
Ayers got off because his wealthy dad got him a phalanx of pricey lawyers. Others were not so lucky. Several Weatherpeople rotted in jail for most of their lives and at least one is still there. Dohrn and Ayers also discredited the rest of SDS with their arrogant and destructive terrorist tactics. Carl Oglesby's recent memoir paints an especially realistic of the despicable and arrogant Dohrn and what she was up to. Ayers should be in jail himself.A number of years ago, I spoke at length with former SDS leader Carl Oglesby, who happens to be a superb writer. I'm a great admirer of his The Yankee-Cowboy War; it's one of those books that can forever change the way you look at American society. The Yankee-Cowboy theory no longer explains as much as it once did, now that the Bush family has done so much to erase or straddle those categories, but that Watergate-era work still provides a valuable insight into 20th century American politics.
Oglesby drifted rightward over time, although his politics have always defied conventional pigeonholing. Even in his SDS days, he always valued working within the system. That stance led various dunderheads within the student left to accuse him of being a sellout or worse.
This conservative (but insightful) review of Oglesby's memoir Ravens in the Storm -- which I have not yet read -- reprints a lengthy dialogue between Oglesby and Bernardine Dohrn. Although the dialogue is a reconstruction, and has been questioned, I think that this text probably comes close to what the participants actually said. Oglesby does talk that way. Since Ayers and Dohrn now like to portray themselves as lovable grandparents, we should pay close attention to this blast from the past:
Dohrn: Carl, you’re good on the war, but sometimes I’m not sure I know where you’re coming from.One hardly need apply much imagination to see this dialogue as an attempt by a government infiltrator to cajole a non-violent student leader into the kind of activity that could land him a life sentence.
Oglesby: Well, Ann Arbor, Kent, Akron, Kalamazoo
Dohrn: Then let me put it a little more plainly. Do you consider yourself a revolutionary or a failed liberal?
Oglesby: Isn’t that a distinction without a difference?
Dohrn: And here in your book, where you say that the New Left and the Old Right are morally and politically coordinate. I’m confused.
Oglesby: I mean that honest conservatives should oppose the war.
Dohrn: Where will your honest conservative be when the barricades go up?
Oglesby: Barricades?
Dohrn: Come on, Carl. You know what I’m talking about.
Oglesby: BD, I don’t have the foggiest.
Dohrn: Then let me help. Some of us are starting to wonder whose side you’re going to be on when, you know, we get down to the nitty-gritty, so I thought I should ask.
. . . .
Oglesby: BD, I was just trying to say that our threats of violence are really kind of frantic call for help. I was trying to say that nobody’s really planning to start making bombs.
Dohrn: That’s what you believe? Fair enough. So I’m asking: Where are you going to be when the bombs start going off?
Oglseby: What’s this about bombs going off? Isn’t that a metaphor?
Dohrn: When it comes to fighting real battles against the empire, where do you think you’re going to be?
Oglseby: Fighting? You mean like, what, bombs and guns? Blowing people up? Shooting people?
Dohrn: This is what you refuse to see. We can’t keep doing what we’re doing without at some point encountering the armed power of the state? Okay? If we mean to continue the struggle, we have to be willing to pick up a gun.
Someone had it out for Oglesby. He told me that an unknown party spiked his drink with LSD just before he testified at the Chicago 8 trial. He recognized what was happening, but went ahead with his testimony nonetheless. I looked up the transcript; he did fine. Still, I wonder if he met with Bill or Bernardine beforehand...
Ayers and Dohrn never came up in my conversation with Oglesby. He'd probably dismiss my suspicions concerning those two. Come to your own conclusion.
21 comments:
So now that both Wright ans Ayers are out, preening can Meeks and Phlegger be far behind?
How far will the corporate media bend to accommodate the "guilt by assoociation" crowd?
....Ah, those two years in Columbia where Obama "lived like a monk."
I don't think the CIA or FBI is the reason Bill and Bernadine were able to avoid prison. The answer is much less complicated: Money.
Bill's daddy (Thomas Ayers) had a buttload of it.
Don't forget that Bill's original revolutionary soul mate Diana Oughtenn was blown to shreds (literally) when the bomb in the townhouse went off.
But then again Bill and Bernie could have been tried for murder for Oughten's and the others' deaths under the felony murder rule and there is no statute of limitations on murder. Bill has basically confessed in his writings and interviews which could be used to make a case outside of any illegally obtained evidence.
But Bill remains (in his own words) "guilty as hell, free as a bird."
Oh brother! I finally figured out how to post a comment and your blog and I put it on the Donner and Blitzen post instead of this one.
boston boomer
"Larry Grathwohl, a former FBI informant in the Weather Underground, tells Accuracy in Media that he was contacted by law enforcement authorities (FBI & SF police) about five or six years ago about bringing a murder case against Weather Underground communist terrorist Bernardine Dohrn for her reported involvement in the 1970 death of a young San Francisco police officer, Brian V. McDonnell."
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/fbi-informant-implicates-obama-associate-in-murder/
Grathwohl testified before congress that Ayers told him that Bernardine Dohrn planned the bombing, made the bomb and placed it herself at the police station.
The bomb was filled with fence staples and lead bullets. Shrapnel was found two blocks away on the roof of a three story building. The bomb was intended to kill, and it did. A police officer was killed and nine people were injured.
There is no statute of limitations on murder. Murder is murder, CIA or not.
I don't buy the CIA idea.
I read quite a few of those comments on the Truthout reprint of Ayers' piece. I have to admit I'm shocked that most of them are praising Ayers to the skies for what he did in the Weather Underground. Most of them mention the radicalism of the '60s, and don't seem to understand that the violence continued into the 1980s.
As someone who actually lived through that time and participated in many anti-war demonstrations all over the country, I am stunned at the ignorance of the people who commented at Truthout. If they really support the violent overthrow of the U.S. govenrnment (as Weatherman did), why did they vote for Barack Obama, the consummate corporate candidate?
Is there any hope for this country at all?
-- boston boomer
Agreed with your factors 1-3 for spooting spooks among radicals.
Factor no. 4, in my experience, is having a presence in two (often three or four) scenes which other people don't usually mix between.
Also a lot of them can't come up with credible personal reasons for hating the system.
And looking back over my own time on the ultra-left radical fringe, many infiltrators reveal attitudes, somewhere along the line, that genuine radicals don't have, such as class snobbery and racism.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
On factor 2: I knew one infiltrator who was mentally ill, got nicked for arson with intent to endanger life, went on the run, and then daddy did a deal whereby he could return to the country and get off with a non-custodial sentence, which is practically unheard-of for such a serious offence. Only about a third of the people I knew could get their heads around the basic cause-and-effect of what had happened. Most stupidly continued to think the guy was OK because he turned up to demonstrations.
b
"He and a bunch of his wealthy, entitled friends managed to destroy Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) in no time at all by creating the Weatherman group..." Jesus. Give me a break. Ayers and friends created the Weathermen? Horsepoop.
government/CIA infiltrators of the SDS and antiwar movement? Well, sure, but those who infiltrate the government -- constitutionally of the people -- are a much greater threat to the general welfare.
Try the Ford Foundation for funding of most everything Ayers has been involved in and lots else to undermine the general welfare. If the FF is not all wrapped up with the U of Chicago, I'd be amazed. Oh, gee... Obama's mom worked for the FF... probably just coincidence...
Why is it no one seems to have been supporting the violent overthrow of the Ford Foundation?
George Washington or the general who ran the security for Lincoln's inauguration, who's name escapes me at 4:00 a.m., would probably put cannonfire (whoops, sorry) to their rathole; Ben Franklin would destroy it with his pen. Us? We bitch about "the government."
When is the last time the heads of one of those creepy foundations got assassinated by a lone gunman or anarchist?
Strange to see mention of The Yankee and Cowboy War - on Friday, I'd mentioned it to a colleague. Time will tell if it still holds water - it's not so much who is in power as who is behind the person in power.
In 1970, a high school friend and three other classmates fire bombed our high school. The guys went to prison and my friend whose father was a corporate attorney went to the state hospital where we watched her deteriorate visit by visit into insanity - a drooling, paranoid, acned, hysterical mess. She'd been the brightest and the most articulate who happened to have inconvenient politics. Shortly, after she was released the next year, she supposedly committed suicide. Many of us knew someone who knew where the radicals were hiding. In 1973, a few Wisconsin radicals emerged from the underground to teach at Western Michigan University. They brought their own brand of change to born again Christian communes.
I couldn't make this up. I knew these people and I don't know if they were CIA or frustrated peace lovers. I did feel like many of us were manipulated. At the time, I thought it was comrades, not government. But what did I know - I was just a kid.
Citizen K -- that sound slike quite a tale.
In truth, "The Yankee and Cowboy War" was a book I had to get out of my system. I read it more than once, and started to see all of political reality through that prism. For example, if you read Peter Viereck's "Metapolitics" after the Oglesby book, you can see how the same split-within-the-ruling-class dynamic operated in pre-Nazi Germany.
I recall saying to Oglesby: "So the moral of the story is this -- when the army of Caligula battles the Teutonic barbarians, which side do you root for? Neither." He agreed.
Throughout much of the 20th century, you could see the Yankee-Cowboy dynamic. A Yankee presidential candidate almost always picked a Cowboy veep, the classic example being JFK and LBJ.
But now I am simply unsure whether the YCW thesis still operates. I mean, Poppy Bush was a classic Yankee who pretended to be a Cowboy. And Dubya is a Cowboy from Yankee stock. Good ol' boy Bill Clinton had the Rockefeller connections and the Anglophile history.
And Obama? What the hell do we do with Obama? Which label do we affix to him? Yankee or Cowboy -- or neither?
re: Y&CW - "a book I had to get out of my system. I read it more than once, and started to see all of political reality through that prism." I resemble that remark.
Daley supported Kennedy so I'm seeing Obama as a Yankee. I don't think it's necessary that his v.p. is a Cowboy. We have plenty of Cowboy in the attitudes of McCain/Palin. Early on, Oglesby suggests these definitions:
"The Yankee mind, of global scope, is at home in the great world, used to regarding it as a whole thing integrated in the far-flung activities of Western exploration, conquest, and commerce. The Yankee believes that the basis of a good world order is the health of America's alliances across the North Atlantic, the relations with the Western Democracies from which our tradition mainly flows. He believes the United States continues the culture of Europe and relates to the Atlantic as to a lake whose other shore must be secured as a matter of domestic priority. Europe is the key world theater, and it is self-evident to the Yankee mind that the fate of the United States is inevitably linked up with Europe's in a career of white cultural destiny transcending national boundaries: that a community of a unified world civilization exists, that there is such a thing as "the West," "One World."
The Cowboy mind has no room for the assumption that American and European culture are continuous.
The Cowboy is moved instead by the discontinuity of the New World from the Old and substitutes for the Yankee's Atlantic-oriented culture a new system of culture (Big Sky, Giant) oriented to an expanding wilderness Frontier and based on an advanced Pacific strategy."
As we know, Obama isn't opposed to war, and like the Yankees re Vietnam, opposed the Iraq war because it didn't make sense for the U.S. whereas expanding the Afghanistan war does.
Wow, looking at the book again, I forgot the bits about Lansky and Operation Underworld. Some think Obama will open up trade with Cuba. I'm sure the "boys" in Vegas won't like that.
Thanks to the shits of the Weather Underground, the U.S. stopped its slow slide to the Real Left and began swinging to the Crazy Right. Maybe they did exactly what was intended-- set the stage for Corporate Rule. Obama is simply a Party of One. One for One and All for One.
When is the last time the heads of one of those creepy foundations got assassinated by a lone gunman or anarchist?
# posted by Gary McGowan
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Joseph, you gonna let the LaRouchie infest this place and incite violence?
Not my blog, but I'd have zero tolerance for either.
And Obama? What the hell do we do with Obama? Which label do we affix to him? Yankee or Cowboy -- or neither?
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lol! Oh, PLEASE. Despite the fake Southern preacher accent he's Yankee all the way, or maybe Yankee-wannabe. "bitter voters clinging to God and guns"--- not to mention all those old white men he surrounds himself with. In Texas and Georgia alone he went out of his way to champion conservative white male candidates over their AA liberal female challengers.
But thanks for the book tip...I'll be looking it up!
I agree with elliewyatt on this (though it is odd that he was never charged).
But Thomas Ayers was both extremely wealthy and politically powerful (e.g. just considering official positions, Wikipedia states that in addition to being president, CEO, and Chairman of Commonwealth Edison, he served on the BoD of Sears, G.D. Searle, Chicago Pacific Corp., Zenith Corp., Northwest Industries, General Dynamics Corp., First National Bank of Chicago, the Chicago Cubs, and the Tribune Co.; also Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Northwestern University, the Erikson Institute, the Bank Street College of Education in New York City, the Chicago Symphony, the Chicago Community Trust, the Chicago Urban League, the Community Renewal Society, the Chicago Association of Commerce and Industry, Chicago United, the Leadership Council for Metropolitan Open Communities, and Dearborn Park Corp., and served as vice president of the Chicago Board of Education).
On the issue of horses.
I'd been aware of the Pritzkers (Chicago billionaire Penny Pritzker was the Obama Campaign's National Finance Chair). But I'd not been that aware of Lester Crown (and the Crown family).
Lester Crown is the family patriarch, and apparently prefers to operate low key, behind the scenes. Billionaire (Lester Crown and family = #222 in Forbes list of World's richest people). Corrupt Chicago businessman and political influence buyer. Family owns a large share of General Dynamics (used to be the biggest shareholder; Lester was President 1953-66). Given immunity in return for testimony in a major bribery scandal in the 70's. Was allowed to retain top-secret security clearance (as Executive Vice President of General Dynamics) over the Pentagon's objections (Pentagon tried to revoke the security clearance when he lied to them about the bribery case, but was overruled by an independent examiner and appeals board). Allegedly involved with corruption in O'Hare expansion project. Currently banging the tables (loudly) on Iran. Funds a variety of hawkish pro-Israel groups and politicians - e.g. Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, Friends of Joe Lieberman, Council on Foreign Relations, etc. Apparently the Crowns were among the very first people Obama approached when contemplating the Presidential run.
On a side note, contributions to Obama by some Crown family members exceed Federal contribution limits:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/02/194141.php
G~ "(though it is odd that he was never charged)."
The charges were dropped in 1979 (Dohrn & Ayers turned themselves in in 1980). The only charges that remained were relatively minor charges from the 'Days of Rage' riots. Dohrn was fined $1,500 + 2 years probation. Ayers got 2 yrs probation.
The charges were dropped due to FBI misconduct in illegal wire-tapping and breaking into homes of WU acquaintances and family members.
Mark Felt, the FBI's Associate Director (the second-ranking post in the FBI) amitted, was charged and convicted of authorizing agents to break into the homes of relatives and acquaintances of the Weatherman fugitives without a search warrant in 1972-73.
Mark Felt was also the person claimed by Woodward and himself in 2002 to have been 'Deep Throat'. Of course, Felt had severe demetia at the time, and I don't trust Woodward.
Felt faced ten years, but upon conviction in 1980 was only fined $5,000 (and $600,000 in legal fees). Nixon testified for the defense. Reagan issued a pardon in 1981.
One would think there was more on Ayers & Dohrn than anything obtained illegally... including testimony by FBI informer Grathwohld, and two other FBI agent infiltrators.
Yeah, but none of that excludes my little hypothesis.
I feel certain that if the government really wanted to make charges stick against Ayers and Dohrn, it could have done so. Hell, the conversation Dohrn had with Oglesby may have been prosecutable in and of itself.
In the 50s, the communists would be infiltrated by local cops, by the FBI and by the CIA -- and they wouldn't know who was real and who worked for a rival investigative body. The same situation might have prevailed in the Weather Underground. I don't think Ayers was FBI. But there were maybe a dozen other parties that might have taken an interest.
Why would any agency "seed" a Bill Ayers into the student movement? The dialogue with Oglesby may have been the entire point of the operation. If Oglesby had been a different sort of person, if he had taken the bait...who knows?
As for the actual bombs -- well, that's an old story, isn't it? The infiltrator who has to break the law in order to establish and/or maintain cover. We've seen the situation many times in films and TV shows. We've also seen it in real life.
Like it or not, the guys who get away scott free are always the ones who are suspected of being spies. I never understood why William and Emily Harris (of SLA ill-fame) were able to roam about freely for so many years, despite histories of kidnapping, bank robbery, conspiracy and murder. They lived while the others fried. William was caught but, in a ludicrous miscarriage of justice, was allowed to walk out of jail not many minutes after entering.
Great article Joe. I want to add that “The Weathermen” situation was discussed in the family I was married into but at the time this was discussed, I wasn’t able to make the connection I have now. WOW! Keep in mind with what I’ve been saying for a long time, the family bragged about being a CIA Asset and that no prosecution would ever come after them. Their involvements include everything from murder to smuggling in tons of cocaine (Clyde O’Connor) to drug and gun running (Chiquita and Drummond) to money laundering here in the US. Nothing has ever happened to stop them since starting (Dirty War, Iran Contra and other CIA Operations) in the late 70s. Now the children, including my youngest son (later 20’s) are involved (Rezko).
What’s interesting is for many years I’ve been actively trying to persuade them to get out of this mess. This is in addition to publishing what I know about this on the Internet. From news reports, many of those surrounding them are taking a fall with the latest being Bill Cellini yet they appear to be confident with holding on to their position. For them when this is wrapped up, they will be faced with many horrible crimes that includes high treason punishable by death. Anyone should be able to imagine how I feel about my children, now adults, being involved in this mess.
Another important point to realize is about Bill Ayers father, Thomas Ayers as well stated by “G’s” post. Some of the groups mentioned I personally know from the family as being involved in the Political Mafia system (Combine) and huge drug system I often talk about. I could add a few more such as NICOR, Sun-Times including Chiquita and others. If you look at who were on the boards of the Sun-Times you will find Former Governor Jim Thompson, Pearle and other Neocon’s. I personally met Governor Jim Thompson through the family at a Maryville outing and was told all about him. Jim Thompson’s law firm represented former Governor Ryan as pro-bono and lost. A quick look at the work his law firm does suggests a who’s who in legal laundering of play to play contracts.
But what is it that may be so important about the criminal activities of the family I was in?
Their connection in laundering for the drug system in part goes back to Chiquita and the Sun-Times. They are CIA Assets and have explained that many others are. They talked about “The Weathermen” and from what they said it’s all part of the same criminal system. They met Obama and mentioned he is their shining star expected to go places for them as a team member. The Rezko trial other reports demonstrate Obama was introduced to many others with high influence.
Another point is my younger son originally pursued a path to become an attorney. He was instructed by the family that attending DePaul U on the North side of Chicago was the “fast track” to get into Chicago/Illinois Politics. After one year and meeting a pretty lady, he transferred to Purdue and graduated with a double major dropping law all together. Why DePaul may interest everyone. It isn’t that the Catholic Church in this area is horribly corrupt. An interesting note about Maryville is that a few years ago DCFS reviewed Maryville and found the two managing Priest having personal banking accounts exceeding $100,000 each. Priests take a vow of poverty and are given an allowance of $20K per year for personal activities. The Archdiocese reported that they didn’t have a good accounting system. Nothing ever went further.
If anyone were to ask me about “The Weathermen”, my answer was their activities were State Sponsored terrorism. The results seem to be clear that they successfully ended the Peace Movement at a cost of murdering others through terrorism. And don’t forget about my comments about the CIA. There’s more for another time….
Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
elliewyatt,
I was being too compact and sloppy (I'm aware of most of the history you relate. Should have said I found it odd that further attempts at prosecution on serious charges weren't made after they surfaced).
Though there were other Weathermen who surfaced in the same period and who also served no time (e.g. Mark Rudd).
Also, laws limit the admissibility of secondhand and hearsay evidence (e.g. Grathwohl's testimony on what Ayers told him about Dohrn). Also - I'm not sure of this - but I have the impression that not only would the evidence from illegal wiretaps be excluded, but possibly also evidence that flowed from information gained via wiretaps. So it would have been hard to prove the more serious charges beyond reasonable doubt (especially given that Ayers/Dohrn would have had excellent lawyers).
I'm also prone to disagree with the CIA hypothesis because Ayers seems to have maintained the same (Marxist-anarchist) political positions up through the present. From looking at some of his writings (and more recent political activity), I really think he's a believer in these positions (e.g. the tone, and in some cases the relative sophistication of the arguments, is inconsistent with a facade). He's totally full of himself, is a tireless self-promoter/used car dealer, lies and dissembles with abandon, and has little real empathy for others (all qualities he shares with Obama) - but I don't believe he's CIA.
G,
Sorry as my comment may be longer than I would like it to be. If there are any questions please ask.
Your comment to me, seem to be derived from common news and studious study all which is what we are told. There is “other news” available which unfortunately are purposely kept out of the main stream news (MSM) and only known to certain others. I’m a product of the “other news” having spent more than 26 years in a family directly involved with a huge criminal system commonly known as “The Combine”. But I know it as “The Shadow Government” but better called “The Political Mafia”. The family often called it “The World’s Largest Criminal System”. This criminal system has direct links to the CIA. The family I was in was passionate about their relationship with the CIA as it guarantees escaping any and all prosecution. They’ve committed numerous murders along with attempted murder. This started after I married in and none was ever was found to be murder. All were claimed to be either acts of God or accidents but I knew about some of them ahead of time and also the family openly admitted to one of them years later. To this day, even when the family is surrounded by news strongly suggesting that soon they are next, they seem committed to staying in because of their CIA link. I have three children in that family who haven’t seen their Grandmother for more than a decade even though they live within walking distance.
There has been on going private and International investigations some which found a fleet of >100 planes owned and flown for purposes of drug trafficking into the US that also supported efforts with the CIA. My ex-wife’s family along with Clyde O’Connor owned a few planes. Clyde along with Greg Smith where busted in Mexico more than a year ago with 3.5 tons of cocaine. Both escaped and are still at large. Clyde should also be considered a CIA Asset. However, Clyde’s tail number, same plane busted, was found to be involved in CIA Rendition Flights. This was reported by private investigators as well as separate recent International news reports.
The O’Connor family and my ex-wife’s family live in the Chicago area. I attended my brother-in-law’s wedding at the O’Connor family’s Church in Wilmette (St Josephs). During the early 90’s on a Saturday at my house where a family gathering was planned, the O’Connor family also where included. This was where my brother-in-law openly discussed starting a drug trafficking business with his pal’s (DuPont’s and other CIA Assets) with Clyde O’Connor while I was talking to Clyde. The above investigation also surfaced a DuPont who owned a plane in the fleet as well.
There are many many CIA Operatives and Assets around Chicago. Chicago is also a huge Laundromat. When the family started in the late 70’s, they were involved in laundering for Argentina’s Dirty War (a CIA Operation). There were others but another famous one is Iran Contra in the 80’s (a CIA operation). The family admitted to laundering for Drugs and Gun Running supporting Chiquita Brands, Coke a Cola, Drummond and others. Chiquita and Drummond were sued last year and ended up with a slap on the hand. I could go on and on with what I know but will stop here.
Obama is directly connected to the criminal system. The family met him in the early 90’s. I don’t remember the exact year other than they didn’t like his name but were told he was someone special and considered by the criminal system a budding shining star. They expected him to help them in the State Government and possibly higher. This is why Obama was introduced to people like Auchi and others (Rezko Trial). Obama is considered a TEAM member. There are things I’m not able to talk about at this time but soon enough you will be surprised.
Regarding Ayers, from what the family talked about, this is CIA linked as well. I’m only stating what they told me because they were connected to those involved in laundering the proceeds from drug and gun running who involved people directly associated with Bill Ayers father.
Regarding CIA operatives please beware that they are also scattered throughout the Chicago news areas (Chicago Radio, Sun-Times, Tribune and more), Banks and other areas. This is one reason why this level of news never gets out. Also, supporting this network are armies of protection groups who work in stealth to make sure the criminal machinery works smoothly even if it involves murder. By the way, they have high goals which I will leave for another time and some have been in the news as well.
Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
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