Saturday, July 12, 2008

Hacks and and attacks and rackets and numbers, oh my...

Another hack attack? Just now, I tried to gain access to the Democratic Daily, not known as a vigorously pro-Obama forum. Before I could enter, Google flashed a warning that I was about to enter an "Attack" site, and that "malicious" software had been found on July 12 (today).
Malicious software includes 17 trojan(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 2 new processes on the target machine.
In light of the previous co-ordinated attacks on anti-Obama Blogger sites, this news is indeed troubling. (Google owns Blogger; Cannonfire was unaffected.)

Polls: Can anyone explain Obama's poll numbers to me?

Last month, he had a 15 point national lead over McCain according to a surprising Newsweek poll, suspected by many to be an outlier. Those suspicions lessened when a Bloomberg/LAT poll gave Obi a 12 point lead. Now, the latest Newsweek results have Obama ahead by only 3 points, a figure similar to most other polls.

Did the earlier Newsweek poll rely on a skewed sample? Or has Obama's popularity suffered a genuine hit?
Princeton Survey Research Associates, which conducted the poll for NEWSWEEK, says some of the discrepancy between the two most recent polls may be explained by sampling error.
So sayeth Newsweek. But how to explain the LAT/Bloomberg results?

Digby thinks the drop is real, and blames Obama's alleged shift to the center (which I prefer to call a revelation of true colors, if that phrase is still permitted):
His message of change has taken a severe blow with this somewhat crude lurch to the right and embrace of conventional wisdom and he's going to need it back to appeal to those who haven't yet fully engaged.

The rationale for his campaign is almost entirely based on the message of change and I doubt that they can make a credible case that he's a steady-as-she-goes, practical, engineer type who makes the trains run on time...
Either the Dems were grossly oversampled in two separate polls -- hard to believe -- or the Lightbringer's radiance has begun to dim.

Money. One does not normally see conspiracy theories on The Confluence, but on this morn, the exemplary riverdaughter features a lovely little piece of paranoia.

It seems that Obama's fundraising numbers have dropped even more precipitously than have his poll figures. The chart displayed here tells the story. What caused the slump?

Riverdaughter suggests one possible answer: The numbers dried up after Hillary's concession because the Republicans were secretly feeding the Obama campaign, in order to insure that the most vulnerable Dem got the nod.
Before the primaries began, Obama had amassed $99 Million, almost as much as Hillary Clinton who had been amassing her warchest for years. Where did that money come from? Not only that but since Obama became the Presumptuous Nominee the money kind of dried up. As Steve points out, the Obama campaign will try to pin this on Clinton and say that her supporters are holding back. And this may very well be true. But the decrease in funding started to happen back in March.
You should be able to guess where she is going with this. March, says riverdaughter, was when the big blogs started talking about the "mathematical" inevitability of an Obama win.

Now, I love a good conspiracy theory, but I also recognize that many such theories rely on post hoc, ergo propter hoc reasoning. Riverdaughter seems to have fallen into that trap here. Back in March, the talk of "inevitability" had a desperate, whistling-in-the-dark quality; the race was, in reality, still quite undecided.

What else happened around that time?

The Rezko trial.

In March, it became clear that Fat Tony would be found guilty, and that the Illinois Combine would have to lie low for a while.

What does the Combine have to do with Obama's funding, you ask? Perhaps nothing. Then again, perhaps the Combine had everything to do with that $99 million kick-start referenced by riverdaughter.

Consider: The Obamafolk had predicted a $100 million June. Instead, they got $30 million. (Although the campaign now says that the $30 million figure is "way off," I'm inclined to accept it.) How did Obama rustle up a comparable figure in a short time back in the early early days, when he was a little-known longshot candidate?

Where did that money come from?


Evelyn Pringle says that the Combine hoped, not so long ago, to put Blagojevich in the White House. When the Governor's legal/ethical troubles became too public, the crooks turned to Obama.

Yes, I've just posited an alternative conspiracy theory. Yes, I'm speculating. No, I have no proof. But this idea makes more sense to me than does riverdaughter's blame-the-GOP-for-everything scenario.

Play nice. Skinner, head honcho of Democratic Underground, informs us that he has told moderators to delete inappropriate posts about the early passing of Tony Snow. All well and good. But this ruling only proves a larger point I've made for weeks: A handful of people control the tone of the major blogs.

If Bush's spokesperson merits an enforced decency, then why couldn't Skinner control the vile lies and insults directed at Hillary Clinton?

Not only that. Progressives, it seems, must now be compelled to behave in a civilized fashion -- otherwise, they are likely to cackle at the recently deceased. What does this fact tell us about the modern progressive movement?

Annabelle, one of our favorite Pumasphere bloggers, was interviewed by the Pakistani Spectator, of all publications...!

13 comments:

Unknown said...

Digby is a woman.

CognitiveDissonance said...

Joseph, I tend to believe that both Newsweek and Bloomberg polls were outliers. Gallop has had him much closer for weeks now. In fact the trend lines for Obama and McCain have been going up and down in a very small range, basically the margin of error. Rasmussen also has had a smaller lead for Obama.

But I wouldn't doubt that Obama has lost some people after his many flip flops. He is on the brink of running as McCain. And when that happens, who will people pick, the real one or a fake one?

Also want to pass along that Digby is a woman. She spoke at a blogosphere event a few months ago for which their is a video on YouTube somewhere. Quite a few of her longtime readers were shocked to discover her gender. :-)

Joseph Cannon said...

I've corrected. But I can't get over the impression that the column is written by the ghost of Peter Finch.

OTE admin said...

Her real name is Heather Parton, and, accoding to USA People Search, she is 51 years old.

Anonymous said...

"Another hack attack?"

Joe, the issue of hack attacks involving those around Obama is not even close to being at the tip of the iceberg. It may not be easy to identify all the acitivity as anything to do with software attacks relates more to behavior as you pointed out. However after being in a family for more than 26 yars who's involved in this mess plus my own personal experience involving my own computers, I can assure you that this is going to be bigger than huge.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

drewvsea said...

Joseph, I noticed your comment re Rezko over at Riverdaughter's site, and I'm glad to see you expanded on it here. If Rezko and company were indeed pumping money into the campaign, how would they have laundered it? Could they have funneled it in via lots of faked small internet donation? I wonder what techniques of evasion would have been used. Moreover, of the two "conspiracy" theories I've encountered today-- yours and Riverdaughter's-- your theory is the one with the grimmest implications. If there was indeed crime-syndicate money floating Obama's primary campaign, then there's a whole lot of crime just waiting there for the Republicans to sniff out should Obama win the presidency. It would make Whitewater look like a pleasant affair by comparison. They probably wouldn't even have to do any heavy lifting to find the criminal evidence, either, thanks to the warrantless surveillance powers which Obama and the current Congress so tactless vested in the Cheney administration.

drewvsea said...

P.S. I was just looking up Pringle's articles on Rezko, and remembered that her name is Evelyn, not Eleanor. You might want to make a correction.

Anonymous said...

Today's Cannonfire is better than most (although it's July 12, not June 12).

Add to the theoretical funding sources the Silicon Valley blackguards who would be Republicans if not for what from-Goldwater-to-Helms made of the GOP, and if it didn't prevent them from getting laid right, and mostly if it weren't for the 1000 Hitlers destroying the world for the rest of us.

Plus, the 'telecoms' can fuck with your servers now immunely.

Stevie

OTE admin said...

The kicker is both theories about where Obama is getting the money could be correct. The GOP HAS been ratfucking the Democrats all along, we know they exploited the loopholes in the caucuses and crossover voting to get Obama, as McCain was selected very early in the game by the GOP. They also control the mainstream media, which was 24/7 Obama for months on end.

But I don't put it past out-and-out crooks financing Obama's campaign. I just can't believe it is all small donors, GOP donors, and Wall Street that's responsible for the OBSCENE amount of money being put into his campaign.

But of course if there is crime money involved, then the GOP has probably known about it for a long time, and again, this could explain why they want him so much as McCain's opponent. They've had oppo on this guy for months.

All one has to do is pay attention. One doesn't have to believe in "conspiracy theories" to KNOW the GOP is known for dirty tricks. That's their lifeblood.

Anonymous said...

TPTB are done with Obama. They are going to take him out for the proverbial walk. I predict that it will be over for him by approximately July 20, after which time, the Dems will need a new nominee.

I've always felt this was the way it was going to go down.

As for what will be the "death knell" (so to speak) I wonder if "they" will allow it to be one of the scandals? Somehow, I doubt it. That could do enough damage to allow McCain and/or Romney to squeak through in November (I still don't think a Republican victory is the end game of those who are really pulling the strings here—that would mean the GOP would have to take the hit for the coming disaster).

I can't help but wonder if it will be a bizarre health crisis. (And, all conspiracy talk aside, Obama has been looking pretty haggard to me in the last couple of months.) That would keep Obama from being martyred, as well as keep the crazed Obama supporters from claiming the Party "sabotaged" him (although there will undoubtedly be some of that kind of talk).

And who will replace The Lightbringer? I have my suspicions. Let's just say I think it'll be someone most actual posters here can live with.

Anonymous said...

Digby includes an update, that the poll may simply be macaca (a pun, evidently).

From the Newsweek comments, which I think have merit along these same lines:

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Posted By: Foggy in Georgetown @ 07/13/2008 12:16:38 PM

Comment: The poll sample is biased to the point of cooking the results. And Newsweek can't explain why the numbers have changed so much? Easy when you include nearly as many Republicans as Democrats in the sample; and poll 444 people aged 60+ (who strongly favor McCain) and 169 people aged 18-39 (who strongly favor Obama). And of the 324 Democrats in your poll, 212 are Clintonites? You got the results you wanted.
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Posted By: jackm62 @ 07/13/2008 7:29:18 AM

Comment: Gallup's 2007 poll of party id had Americans identifying themselves as Democrats by 12 points over those identifying themselves as Republicans: http://www.pollster.com/blogs/gallups_2008_generic_vote.php Why does Newsweek think there is an equal # of Democrats and Republicans in this year's election cycle??? Are you are an independent magazine, or a RNC outlet???

If you printed out this poll out, it wouldn't be worthy of toilet paper.

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Not only were the Republicans given about the same sample size as the Democrats (when the self-branding of the electorate as Republican is at recent historic lows), but the sample put in INDEPENDENTS at HIGHER numbers as well.

315 Republicans (plus or minus 7)
324 Democrats (plus or minus 7)
357 Independents (plus or minus 6)

Neither size of the non-Democratic side seems warranted on the facts.

Is it now true that more registered voters brand themselves as independents than Democratic? Not that I'm aware of.

...sofla

Anonymous said...

I had to look up outlier. :D
Good post.

Anonymous said...

Andrew and Susan, good posts! No doubt when we mention anything involving more than a few people, the subject immediately becomes a “conspiracy theory”. The title automatically dampens the opportunity of it having much consideration. But this is part of the plan according to the family I was in for more than 26 years.

One area that isn’t well accepted by many is that our original Democrat and Republican parties are separate entities. I was raised with this same belief as well as most everyone else but I don’t believe this is true anymore. Frankly, from the family both groups in the conspiracy plan work together. As told, out of every 10 lawmakers involved, 7 are Republicans and 3 are Democrats, this was in the mid 90’s. The situation seems to be very different now as how our Democratic Congress has behaved.

My youngest son is involved with Rezko to my dismay. We had lunch at The Panda Express a long time ago, probably the last time we saw each other. There, he talked about Rezko being his “buddy” among a few other things. My ex-wife’s family is linked in with the Corruption, Drug Distribution and Gun Running criminal activities that include the Political (Mafia) criminal activities. The Gun Running part has been in the news with Chiquita and Drummond however there are a few others that may have slipped away (Coke-A-Cola and more). These activities are supported by huge Protection and Security groups monitoring everything as their primary behavior is purely paranoid. This believe it or not has had a domino affect with other criminal groups who have become paranoid as well. My ex-wife’s family, as an example, after getting involved followed a slow build towards becoming totally paranoid. To me, the “hyper-vigilance” is an easy behavior trait to spot not only when they are around you but also in any function activity that is around you or even in your face. This may be any Internet activity. In all the years that I’ve experience this criminal group, they never show themselves to react to anything. Everything is executed using plans that seem to be carefully thought out. However on the Internet, they do get jumpy when something they may be watching goes against what they want. I’ve lost computers and all kinds of computer equipment. There are a lot of people involved in this criminal group as many will find it difficult to believe. Please don’t forget that for many years, with the family and out of the family, I’ve been around different parts of the criminal group. Eventually the real detailed meaning although some has been out in the news, will surface to explain how huge and who the different groups are. I can’t comment on this at this time…..

Having said the above, being more than a couple of people certainly blows the pants off of it being believable. But unfortunately it’s totally true and I’m glad to see some people are starting to assemble it correctly.

Part of the Warrantless Surveillance effort is directly linked to the overall criminal effort that is starting to surface in parts. The high-tech ability to snoop that exists today allows for 24/7 micro-snooping on everyone Criminal activities will require this function in their tool kit to succeed. As we all will eventually see will include who this involves. Like something else I talked about, I can’t comment on at this time but I guarantee this will surprise everyone.

Hence, in summary to this point, as I’ve said was that our Government Party groups aren’t what they appear to be. Second, there are other agenda’s at work that some are starting to make them selves be noticed. Third, the groups involved have paranoid behavior that can be seen if you know what to look for. Fourth, they may want everyone to view this as a huge conspiracy but unfortunately that’s their game for herding the sheep and it’s worked for a while.

Stevie said “Plus, the 'telecoms' can f#@k with your servers now immunely.”

Stevie realizes the high level control with immunity that exists. However what’s deeper is complete control over information. Up to the point of the Internet, we used printed materials as our information source. The papers became rather than an information source, a control source to the public. The family talked about the Tribune and Sun-Times having CIA Stringers working to insure only certain information would be released. I personally had a run in with what I felt was a Stringer at a Chicago Radio station. But the internet has become a life line with getting out the real news.

It’s important to realize that this group follows strict guidelines with how they move to control something or someone. They always want to make it look as an accident or that the victim was responsible for what happened or it was an act of God. The technology involved in the Internet allows for superior trickery as most people can’t catch on to what happened. Plus they can only get evidence it the trickery continues to reproduce itself in the same area. Security functions in the Internet code allows to surfacing or rebuilding paths. This helps identify what happened after the fact however the criminal groups down to average hackers walk around with a broom at their tail end to erase everything they did as they move forward. Even the high security functions that are running are compromised, but you may not know it.

Susan, read up on the 100 Drug plane fleet surfaced by Madcow Morning news http://www.madcowprod.com/ Reporter: Daniel Hopsicker AND Narco News http://narconews.com Reporter: Bill Conroy. And while you at it read up on what’s been happening in Colombia’s Political area and Mexico’s as well. Both area (and there’s more) have been so riddled with corruption one wonders who is really in control? Susan, Clyde O’Connor is my ex-sister-in-law’s brother. I met him in the early 90’s at a family gathering at my house and listened in on conversations with starting a business in Florida to ship huge quantities of Cocaine. There has been a lot of good reporting in this area as it’s very complex and convoluted to keep everything hidden.

Susan, one reason why the Republican’s have been known for their dirty tricks is because the large Corporations and wealthy Elites spend their money on these areas. Recommended reading should include “Gang Stalking” which has a history going back very far. Today we have many Elites all who are worried about keeping what they have and doing what they can even when it involves murder. The link with the political sector with corruption helps pull this all off and no one knows anything different. But as I said above, there is little difference between the two parties at this point. What we really have is two groups, one that WANTS the Constitution and one that DOESN’T WANT the Constitution.

Sorry for the long post again but I hope this helps.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL