That's what the progblogs say -- see DU here and Kos here. The controversy derives from this piece, which in turn comes from this report "exclusive to Accuracy in Media." AIM now has credibility on the left, it seems.
Here are a few typical prog-mob reactions:
Hillary has always been a GOP mole in the Democratic Party. She's sided so often with Republicans on issues I can think of no other rational explanation.
it does indicate that she had already developed her dishonest political hack streak by that time.Naturally, these people didn't read the pieces closely.
In them, we find that Hillary (allegedly) acted as part of a group. Neither she nor any other members of this group were asked for a response to the current allegations. This fact tells you that we are dealing with propaganda.
A single source -- Jerry Zeifman -- is cited. This source does not say what the prog-bloggers think he says.
Even if we take this source at face value, he does not at any point indicate that Hillary had hoped to derail the impeachment of Richard Nixon.
To the contrary.
The piece says that Hillary was a low-level legal student working for her former law professor Burke Marshall (a man with a commanding reputation), special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel Bernard Nussbaum. Compared to those guys, Hillary was a go-fer.
These men (note the gender) argued that the constitution permitted denying Nixon legal counsel during House impeachment hearings.
A dubious argument? You bet. But how the hell does it constitute "derailing" impeachment?
It looks to me like Marshall and company were so anxious to drive the Trickster out of town that they were willing to convene a kangaroo court.
Oh, but it gets worse. The article twists the situation in order to smear not just Hillary, but JFK. Check it out:
Why would they want to do that? Because, according to Zeifman, they feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by counsel to the president. Hunt, Zeifman said, had the goods on nefarious activities in the Kennedy Administration that would have made Watergate look like a day at the beach – including Kennedy’s purported complicity in the attempted assassination of Fidel Castro.It's amazing to me that progressives can unthinkingly accept nonsense of this sort.
Think about it: Even if Nixon were allowed no counsel, Hunt surely would have a lawyer during questioning. Regardless of which lawyers might have been in that room, Republican members of the committee could -- and probably would -- have attempted to ask Hunt embarrassing questions about other presidents.
If the Republicans sought such an opening, what might have happened next? In all likelihood, the committee chairman would have shut down that line of questioning as irrelevant.
Now presume that Nixon did have a lawyer present (as surely would have been the case, had impeachment gone forward). Presume that this lawyer tried to ask Hunt questions about JFK. What would have occurred? Same thing. The chairman would have banged a gavel, shouted "Irrelevant!" -- and everyone would have been forced to talk about Dick Nixon.
Everyone knows that E. Howard Hunt always despised JFK. If he had some grand, embarrassing revelation about the man, he would have unveiled it during his long retirement.
Not only that. At the time of the Watergate hearings, the assassination plots were already known. They had been exposed by a Drew Pearson column some six years earlier.
The Pearson leak prompted the CIA Inspector General to put together a report on CIA/Mafia collusion to kill Fidel Castro. Originally, only four men were allowed to read this report -- the IG, the two men who wrote it, and the ultimate client, Lyndon Johnson. LBJ also hated the Kennedys and had no desire to protect their legacy. In 1994, I came to know this report intimately because I was once involved with an attempt to publish it. Eventually, that publishing house folded and another concern put it out.
I include here the CIA's "bottom line" conclusions, taken directly from the published version. (The original document is typewritten -- pica, as I recall -- but the formatting resembles what you see here.) If you cannot read the words, click to enlarge.
Robert Kennedy did not know about the plots until after the fact.
Such was the Agency's internal conclusion, as conveyed in secret to Johnson: The Kennedys were innocent of the Castro assassination plans. Rest assured that this conclusion was reached with great reluctance -- the CIA always prefers to convey the image that they are simply the instrument of the President's will. In fact, they went "off the reservation" in their efforts to get Castro.
In more recent years, CIA personnel and Republican propagandists have twisted evidence in order to portray the Kennedys as the instigators of the assassination plans. Gus Russo -- the most deceptive bastard I have ever encountered -- wrote an entire book dedicated to presenting a thesis contrary to the one found in the 1967 IG report. He did not let his readers know what I knew -- that, during the writing of this book, he functioned at the behest of Richard Helms and other CIA veterans of the '60s, with whom he secretly met. ("They call me Gus!" he would gush to his friends.)
The smarmy purveyors of fake history have long targeted JFK and RFK. Now they smear Hillary Clinton -- picturing her as the woman who tried to "derail" the Nixon impeachment, even though she did no such thing.
And historically illiterate progs keep gobbling up these lies.
10 comments:
Joe,
The link to KOS is not there. Do you have it anywhere else other than KOS site?
BTW I hate these kinds of BS.
It seems to have suddenly disappoeared. Fancy that!
I guess the diary was removed from Dkos. Here is a Google cache of it and comments. I am only presuming that this is the dairy you can't get; easy to check, but I don't have time.
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/yvhnqt
"Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yvhnqt
Gary McGowan
What is this Joseph ?
Is it a contest to find the most bizarre and weirdo accusations against Hillary and claim that all Obama supporters are behind that stupidity ?
You really like playing with little straw man. In fact, your whole logic against Obama is based on this fallacy.
Why don't you visit a psychiatric hospital and record what they think about Hillary and then claim that all Obamabots share their opinions.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. Thus:
1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (a distorted version of X) and attacks position Y.
3. Therefore X is False/incorrect/flawed.
"Why don't you visit a psychiatric hospital and record what they think about Hillary and then claim that all Obamabots share their opinions.
"...find the most bizarre and weirdo accusations against Hillary and claim that all Obama supporters are behind that stupidity ?"
Gary McGowan
I read the comments at DU. Half the commenters disagreed with the guy who made the original post. I linked to this story the other day myself, although I certainly did not draw the conclusion that Hillary tried to block Nixon's impeachment. Neither did Zeifman, as you point out. I've got Zeifman's book at home, I'll go through it this weekend.
Just read an interesting thought in a comment by by "ronkseattle" over at http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com
"What to do with the blog boyz? [I take that to be those against whom we are railing here.] That’s not even worth thinking about. And never mind them learning a lesson. They’ll learn new places to place blame, if necessary, but lessons? No. "
Gary McGowan
I saw this story at Gary Buell's Covert HIstory the other day, where Gary was a neutral reporter. That the story could morph 180 degrees into young Hillary's attempt to block the Nixon impeachment is proof of the blogosphere's viral psychosis and homicidal bent.
If I blogged, I'd tell about those 1970s days and my own (successful) attempts to bring down the criminally powerful; of their (unsuccessful) attempts to entrap me with hookers and bribery (they got others); and so on. I had to resort to semi-ethical tactics also. Unlike Hillary I had good friends at the highest levels.
Evidently Zeifman's professional sense of rectitude clashed with the radicalized Rodham's up-against-the-wall-motherfucker sensibilities. (O god were we hot shit then!)
Zeifman didn't fire her on the spot, though, did he?
I know nothing about legal stuff, but it sounds like Hillary and her fellows tried to have the impeachment process function like a grand jury hearing, where the accused cannot bring a defense, as impeachment under the Constitution is equivalent to an indictment, but not a trial. Whatever.
Here's your due, Zeifman: You and everyone in the government were scared shitless that Nixon would pull a Gotterdammerung. General Alexander Haig was made to babysit Nixon to make sure the maniac didn't go berserk. Furthermore - furthest, actually - Congress had a huge job in containing the impeachment to a few over-reachings by Nixon and his staff only. They cut out the cancer but it continued to spread and eat away at the body politic.
Emma Goldman said voting is the opium of the masses in this country. Every four years you deaden the pain.
Actually, H, that's an interesting point. I mean, the comparison of impeachment to a grand jury proceeding. By that reasoning, then, a lawyer would have been mandatory for the trial in the senate.
As for the number of prog readers who interpreted the story correctly -- it's hard to say, innit? I've seen so many instances where people look at a text, they SEEM to be reading it, but the ideas that enter their brains vary drastically from the message on the page.
I mean, how many times have I given my little speech about the DLC being a bogeyman, an entity that is "all powerful" only in the minds of DU and Kos readers? Yet once a day, I delete a drive-by comment from a prog brainwashee who repeats the cliches: "Hillary is a corporatist whore who totally does the bidding of the DLC."
If they don't come here to read the words then...well, why DO they come here?
At any rate, my not-so-hidden main purpose for posting this is to tell the true story about the Castro assassination plots, or at least to tell people where they can go to get the truth. The canard that JFK ordered the hits has been repeated so many times that even the lefties tend to believe it.
Everywhere you look you see the illiterate schmuckhole progtards invoking the 'DLC' bogeyman, but they're entitled to a fair and balanced hearing, since they probably mean 'DNC' half the time. So, give them the benefit of the doubt and then hang them. Even well-educated and articulate schmuckholes can't distinguish between the federal 'deficit' and the national 'debt', interchanging the two.
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