Talking Points Memo offers the best brief summary I've seen:
The most recent controversy about Alberto Gonzales telling lies centers on the apparent contradiction between his sworn testimony and that of FBI Director Robert Mueller. Gonzales and his partisans appear to be basing their defense of the AG on the notion that there's a narrow, semantical distinction about what constitutes the 'terrorist surveillance program' that gets him off the hook for perjury. And there's even some lingering question about whether Mueller really said what he appeared to say in his congressional testimony.Josh Marshall then goes on to quote an NYT piece which quotes an FBI official who says that, yep, Mueller meant it.
This is no small matter. What is this "terrorist surveillance program"? Many aver that this term was an after-the-fact label designed to rationalize a staggering advance in NSA capabilities. We know this:
1. Whatever this program is, Bush says that it targets terrorists and only terrorists.
2. Gonzales says that the program at the heart of the bizarre race-to-the-hospital scenario was something other than what the president talked about.
3. Mueller says no, it's the same thing.
This contradiction mirrors another one, which arises from the gnomish hints offered by Russell Tice, the NSA whistleblower widely labeled a source for the original New York Times story uncovering the warrantless wiretap program.
I am now given to understand that Tice was not the source for that story (or at least not the main source) and that Tice is out to blow the whistle on something different.
Just what is this program? Are we talking about one program or two?
Were the Bushies spying on political opponents, as many believe? Or did the controversy have something to do with advance knowledge of the Madrid bombings -- which occurred the day after the hospital confrontation?
I'll tell you what I know after the jump...
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From lukery's new blog, Monosyllabic Fish:
The thing is, Russ Tice tried to tell Congress about some of the NSA's illegal and unconstitutional spying programs and not a single person in congress had sufficiently high clearance to hear what Tice had to say - not even the Chairs of the Senate or House Intelligence Committees.And:
In fact, it's not apparent that the Attorney General is even clued into the program. And Tice even has doubts as to whether your Ostensible President has any idea what was going on. It's no wonder that they all find themselves tripping the linguistic fantastic.
Yes, we all acknowledge that they have the technical capability to spy on whoever they want, whenever they want - and we all acknowledge that they have no respect for any laws (or, at least, that they can justify anything to themselves so long as we are 'at war.') And yes, we all know about Echelon - but Tice seems to be talking about something that is revolutionary, not incremental.From Tice's interview with Reason Magazine:
REASON: You're referring to what James Risen calls "The Program," the NSA wiretaps that have been reported on?"Tertiarily." A coinage like still doesn't give us much of an answer to the "one thing or two" question, or how the two things might connect.
Tice: No, I'm referring to what I need to tell Congress that no one knows yet, which is only tertiarily connected to what you know about now.
Tice does offer this clue as to nature of the Mother of All Eavesdropping Programs (or MAEP -- and yes, I really must break this habit of coining new acronyms):
I've thought about this for a while, and as I said, I can't tell you how things are done, but I can foresee it, especially with what we've seen now. We're finding out that NSA conducted surveillance on U.S. citizens. And FISA could have been used but wasn't, was sidestepped. No one even made the attempt to see if they had a problem they could have fixed through FISA.Now, when Tice talks about "foreseeing" something, he really means "I need to use a semantic dodge in order to stay out of trouble."
That would lead one to ask the question: "Why did they omit the FISA court?"
I would think one reason that is possible is that perhaps a system already existed that you could do this with, and all you had to do is change the venue. And if that's the case, and this system was a broad brush system, a vacuum cleaner that just sucks things up, this huge systematic approach to monitoring these calls, processing them, and filtering them—then ultimately a machine does 98.8 percent of your work. What you come out with from a haystack is a shoebox full of straw. Once you have that, you have people that can look at it.
Now here's an interesting question: If this approach was used, and hundreds of thousands if not millions of communications were processed in that manner, and then if and when the truth ever came out, a lawyer—and I think lawyers are going to be arguing semantics in this case—the argument could be made, well, if a machine was doing the looking and the sucking in, it doesn't matter because that's not monitoring until a human looks at it.
What we are talking about is, I believe, an already-existent system which sucks in everything: All landline phone calls, all cell phone calls (although many argue that VOIP is still secure), all email, all driver's license information, all transaction records, all credit histories. Everything. From everyone.
The MAEP scoops it all up. Data-mining techniques winnow it down.
Here's where I disagree with lukery. Of course Gonzales and Bush know about this. Cheney must too -- he seems to have been the primary instigator of the rush to the hospital.
So what was the rush about?
They cannot have been worried about the very existence of the MAEP. It has been around for a while, methinks. So their concern must have been how the data was used -- and who was the target.
The ill Ashcroft wanted no part of it. He was obviously glad to have been out of the hot seat, glad that the decision to sign off on the thing rested with acting AG James Comey. Ashcroft, Mueller and Comey were ready to resign en masse over this issue.
Picture two teams pitted against each other: Ashcroft, Mueller and Comey on one side; Gonzales, Cheney, Bush and Andy Card (and Rove?) on the other. Somewhere in the middle is the MAEP.
Cheney felt that the decision could not be put off until Ashcroft got out of the hospital. The hospital incident took place on March 10, 2004.
The crisis in March 2004 stemmed from a review of the program by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, which raised "concerns as to our ability to certify its legality," according to Comey's testimony. Ashcroft was briefed on the findings on March 4 and agreed that changes needed to be made, Comey said.Then came Ashcroft's illness and, on March 10, the mad rush to the hospital room, as Alberto Gonzales and Andy Card tried to get the gravely ill non-acting A.G. to sign off on the program. Robert Mueller called up the security guys protecting Ashcroft and told them that no matter what Gonzales or Card did or said, Comey was not to be kept out that room. Ultimately, Ashcroft told Cheney's henchmen that Comey was the acting AG and that he, Ashcroft could do nothing. (In this case, I think we can presume that "could" means "would.")
Ashcroft left office, for reasons still not fully understood, in February of 2005. You-know-who replaced him.
So what made the NSA program a matter of such dire concern on the might of March 10-11?
In the past, I've offered the opinion that the Mother of All Eavesdropping Programs was being used to spy on political opponents. I still have strong suspicions along those lines. However:
The next day, as terrorist bombs killed more than 200 commuters on rail lines in Madrid, the White House approved the executive order without any signature from the Justice Department certifying its legality. Comey responded by drafting his letter of resignation, effective the next day, March 12.Comey was persuaded to stay after Bush promised unspecified changes to the law.
Could the race to the hospital have had any connection to the Madrid bombings? Did the Bush administration have advance warning of the plot?
One would have thought that, after Risen's article came out, the Bushies would have used Madrid as a propaganda point: "We could have prevented tragedy in Spain," that sort of thing. But they never made any real attempt to sound that note, although Gonzales did make a brief en passant mention of Madrid during his testimony.
On the other hand, if the Bushies were (say) spying on John Kerry, Comey probably would have so testified -- if, in fact, Comey knew. It may be that Comey had suspicions but did not know.
So. What was going on?
I've given you all the pieces of the puzzle we have at present. We seem to have maybe twenty pieces of a 200-piece puzzle. What kind of a picture is forming?
6 comments:
Hi Joseph,
Former Clinton administration official Sidney Blumenthal (writing in the Guardian of London) and Steven Clemons, publisher of the popular political blog, TheWashingtonNote.com, long ago gave us a gigantic hint about what this other NSA scandal is -- namely, that we have almost conclusive circumstantial evidence that some administration officials (notably John Bolton) used the NSA to spy on other administration officials (notably Colin Powell). If they were spying on their own Secretary of State, doesn't it stand to reason that they were spying on other officials and congressional democrats? Here is an excerpt:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1471879,00.html
Blumenthal in the Guardian:
The Bolton confirmation hearings have revealed his constant efforts to undermine Powell on Iran and Iraq, Syria and North Korea. They have also exposed a most curious incident that has triggered the administration's stonewall reflex. The foreign relations committee has discovered that Bolton made a highly unusual request and gained access to 10 intercepts by the National Security Agency, which monitors worldwide communications, of conversations involving past and present government officials. Whose conversations did Bolton secretly secure and why?
Staff members on the committee believe that Bolton was probably spying on Powell, his senior advisers and other officials reporting to him on diplomatic initiatives that Bolton opposed. If so, it is also possible that Bolton was sharing this top-secret information with his neoconservative allies within the Pentagon and the vice-president's office, with whom he was in daily contact and who were known to be working in league against Powell.
If the intercepts are released they may disclose whether Bolton was a key figure in a counter-intelligence operation run inside the Bush administration against the secretary of state, who would resemble the hunted character played by Will Smith in Enemy of the State. Both Republican and Democratic senators have demanded that the state department, which holds the NSA intercepts, turn them over to the committee. But Rice so far has refused. What is she hiding by her cover-up?
Steve Clemons on Democracy Now:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/19/1348223
The more important, in my view, question is how John Bolton has so frequently been a loose cannon in American foreign policy. And these are the areas that I have tried to outline most, one of which you got into with the N.S.A. intercepts issue. The N.S.A. intercepts are intercepts that the National Security Agency -- these are our most secret, most secret secrets in the country, and John Bolton may have very well have been spying on other officials that he worked with to get a fix on not only what they were saying about policy, but what they were saying about him. And that is -- that is the big question that we don't have answered yet. But Senator Dodd is working very, very hard to explore the ten cases of N.S.A. intercepts that John Bolton pursued.
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HamdenRice from DU
I have an idea for a program like MAEP. Let's say it recorded virtually all search engine requests in the country, so it knew what people were thinking about. Then let's say that it recorded an enormous fraction of emails sent, as well as a large fraction of instant messages. And maybe it could record the entire contents of every text file on many people's hard drives. All this information in a sophisticated, searchable database, with thousands of servers constantly data mining the hell out of it. Maybe we could call it "Google".
A couple of commentors over at TPM have suggested that this super secret - and still secret - program that could not be revealed was to begin filling those new FEMA camps with undesirables.
As I understand it, most of the rationale for this suspicion is based on:
1) The camps were built, so the plan was and is to use them.
2) Gitmo is the way these beasts operate, and
3) The program is so outrageous that even snug established party members threatened to resign if it were implemented.
These other eavesdropping charges are not big enough to cause such an uproar.
tick..tick..tick..oui the pressure!
But Pelosi fell short of committing to move the resolution through the House.
Soon she will be the only one straddling the fence..ouch
joe, emptywheel addressed just this issue recently, and i either commented or posted on it within the last week or so.
her observation is that (1) the nature of this 'mindless machine' (yeah, well, a 'mind' programmed it to do this) rakes up EVERYthing, and then a 'mind' establishes a search algorithm to comb through the haystack and deliver a box of needles.
the big problem with this is, there is no prior establishment of probable cause in the raking, or vacuuming process.
to my mind. comey should have been hugely alarmed by this point, and willing to resign along with numerous others over the way in which this would establish unconstitutional precedent of stunning proportions. to be more blunt, it just completely turns the whole notion of probable cause, and the need for warrants in searches, on its head.
and, if that is not enough, there is the additional observation (again, emptywheel) that there was in place at the time a direct restriction from congress to NOT do this, OR ANYTHING LIKE IT (hint hint, calling it TERRORIST information agency instead of TOTAL information awareness just will not cut the mustard.
so all that time this little project was in complete defiance of the constitution, AND in complete defiance of direct restrictions from congress.
all the other possibilities i'm sure contributed, but i'm not sure comey or mueller would have necessarily known about or cared so much about the much larger and global impact of these two issues of legality.
again, to my way of thinking, isn't that more than enough to have created this tempest??
Here is where my mind(logic) is leading me.
What stands between absolute power (in the US)and a republic?
The Constitution and people's votes.
How can anyone(or group)overcome these hurdles?
The Constitution of the US dictates a sort of sharing of powers between the three branches. If you were to systematically erode the independence of the Judiciary(has been going on for a while) by tilting it toward a political point of view and fire anyone that can't conform to this philosophy and appoint a total crony as the head of this branch, you have practically rendered it impotent.
What could also render the legislative branch impotent is, holding them under blackmail of not only with-holding financial backing but also a more sinister plot, ie. real blackmail.
If you were to have a free hand in monitoring every movement, every utterance, every E-mail, every phone conversation, every private act that a politician makes, you would have the makings of "blackmail".
If you were to have such powers over anyone that is anyone, ie. Journalists, you could also use blackmail to govern their tilt.
Furthermore, if you were able to monitor every protest rally, every blog entry, every word uttered by anyone in dissent, you can make a case for treason, or bad citizenship, or imprisonment, or worse!
The last resort for citizens is dissent through with-holding votes, protest rallies, and ultimately violent demonstrations. If the Judiciary and the Legislative have been rendered impotent, the result is a big dead end(unless we have a Bastille kind of day).
So I am left with what my mind (subconsciously) drew as the cause.
"BLACKMAIL" of the everyday sort. Monitor not all the people but one's that can stop you. Politicians, journalists, bloggers, protesters, or anyone that can have an impact on your goal to achieve ultimate power.
Could simple blackmail be the real, ultimate end to this very secret data mining conspiracy? And could it explain why even Democrats are afraid to open this Pandora's box?
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