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The rumor: Follow up

First, I want to thank my readers for the response to the post (immediately below this one) on the burgeoning rumor that the New Orleans levees were deliberately destroyed. And let me state right away that I should have done more "due diligence" on the Hal Turner site. Of course, the tone of my piece clearly indicated that none of the cited web sources struck me as the epitome of take-it-to-the-bank reliability.

One must nod in agreement with the reader who observed that nothing major happens in this country without a few accompanying conspiracy theories. Such speculations have become so ubiquitous that the old "no-smoke-without-fire" axiom now possesses only limited usefulness.

And yet...perhaps we should continue to keep an eye on this rumor. Don't play Chicken Little, but don't play the role of the ostrich, either.

Yes, levees do break. Especially levees facing a Level 4 hurricane. Especially when those levees were designed to withstand only a Level 3 hurricane.

I wrote the previous post because I suspected that such a compilation might evince a genuinely intriguing piece of information. One respondent provided the following:

See the TalkingPointsMemo site's Timeline, for a link to a news article that cites a National Guard timeline. The NG Timeline places the rupture of the 17th Street Canal Flood Wall at 3 a.m. Monday, 8/29, three hours before the hurricane even made landfall. [A call to the Army Corps of Engineers at 5 a.m. Monday appears to confirm that account.]
The Talking Points Memo timeline here does not mention a 3 a.m. rupture. The compilation of stories here first mentions the 17th Street Canal levee in a dispatch time-stamped 3:10 p.m. Other stories indicate that the levee breach occurred earlier -- exactly when remains unclear.

Perhaps the reader would help us out here with a clearer citation?

At least we can now lay to rest the belief that the levee broke 21 hours after the storm hit. That belief seems to have arisen from a misinterpretation of Michael Chertoff's clueless statements.

Nevertheless, the "blown levee" rumor continues to grow. Even if it proves fabulous, it may nevertheless have significance. The Whitewater pseudo-scandal was mostly a matter of rumor -- yet no-one can deny that the controversy was important.

In that light, you may want to read this piece -- which is written to a surprisingly high standard, considering the fact that it appears on the Alex Jones site. The article directs our attention to a blog by New Orleans resident Andrea Garland:

Also heard that part of the reason our house flooded is they dynamited part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being flooded. Apparently they used too much dynamite, thus flooding part of the Bywater. So now I know who is responsible for flooding my house - not Katrina, but our government.
Not an eyewitness report, but at least now we have a name to deal with.

And Andrea is not the only named source. In the previous compilation, I foolishly overlooked this alleged eyewitness report which saw cyber-ink in the Daily Kos:

10:57 Raw transcript of comments by NOLA evacuee Clara Barthelemy: "The 17th street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable real estate in the city... to keep the French Quarter protected, the ninth ward was sacrificed... people are afraid to speak out...
We've seen these words earlier, except now we have a name. Does this name connect to an actual person? Is that person reliable? Can others confirm her story? Further digging may fetch some answers.

The Clara Barthelmy story has received responses elsewhere on the net, including this right-wing site. A reader opined that "Clara Barthelemy sounds fat, black, and uneducated." Another reader responded:

Dear Black People from NOLA:
Obviously they blew the levee to protect the cars.
AND SINCE NONE OF YOU OWN CARS, YOU LOSE!@!!@#!@#
Omg operation "darkie shield", go innernets
And people call me intolerant of Jesusmaniac red-staters. I don't apologize for responding to haters with counter-hate. Taste of their own medicine, and all that.

Back to the blown levee story:

ABC's David Muir spoke to another New Orleans resident named Joe Edwards who claimed that the levee was intentionally blown:

JOE EDWARDS, JR., 9TH WARD RESIDENT: I heard something go BOOM!

MUIR: Joe Edwards rushed to get himself and as many neighbors as possible into his truck. They drove to this bridge, where they've been living ever since

EDWARDS: My house broke in half. My mother's house just disintegrated. It was a brick house. All the houses down there floated down the street like somebody's guiding 'em

MUIR: Was it solely the water that broke the levee, or was it the force of this barge that now sits where homes once did? Joe Edwards says neither. People are so bitter, so disenfranchised in this neighborhood, they actually think the city did it, blowing up the levee to save richer neighborhoods like the French Quarter.

MUIR: So you're convinced . . .

EDWARDS: I know this happened!

MUIR: . . . they broke the levee on purpose?

EDWARDS: They blew it!
A potentially related account can be found in this London Observer article, which quotes a man named Correll Williams:

Williams only left his apartment after the authorities took the decision to flood his district in an apparent attempt to sluice out some of the water that had submerged a neighbouring district. Like hundreds of others he had heard the news of the decision to flood his district on the radio.
Could this be the source of the "intentionally blown" reports?

We now have three (perhaps four) names. Those names do not necessarily make the story true -- but at least they take us out realm of anonymous reports. For that reason, I advise everyone to keep on eye on this tale, which may yet prove to be something more than just a tale.

A side note: Just to prove that right-wingers really do live in an alternate universe, this conservative conspiracy site claims that Clinton, not Bush, drastically underfunded the levees in New Orleans.

50 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello there. Great work, but I must take issue with the following statement:

"Yes, levees do break. Especially levees facing a Level 4 hurricane. Especially when those levees were designed to withstand only a Level 3 hurricane."

Perhaps that is true, but it's irrelevant. A Level 4 hurricane did not hit New Orleans, and it wasn't levees that broke and flooded the city.

The hurricane's eastern, "buzz-saw" side was in Mississippi,its eye landed near the Louisiana-Mississippi border, and it was Mississippi that suffered the worst hurricane damage (see NYT).

The strongest winds New Orleans saw were 100mph, ie a weak category 2. This is why after the hurricane missed New Orleans and hit Mississippi, headlines said things like "New Orleans Spared, Stock Market Rallies" (Bloomberg)

You can see from the photos that New Orleans suffered very little damage from the actual hurricane.

Sometime after the 100-mph winds subsided, several concrete canals deep within the neighborhoods of NOLA developed large (40-foot) holes, somehow. These are NOT the infamous earthen levees holding back Lake Pontchartrain. They are, again, concrete canals that make their way through the center of town. Concrete structures do not rupture without the addition of considerable energy, and that is how we know that a windy evening was not the culprit.

Anonymous said...

By all means...:

I directed you to the TalkingPointsMemo site, and there is in fact such a link. [I actually had pointed it out to TPM earlier.] It is located in Monday, 8/29's entries, under "Late morning..." (the 13th entry for Monday, to-date). TPM has conflicting times sourced for the 17th St. Canal Flood Wall break, but the Knight-Ridder news article from 9/10 that is linked in that entry is an excellent piece of investigative journalism, and is the source of the 3 a.m. NG Timeline citation.

Anonymous said...

I heard that Cannon blew the levees.

He ate 400 cans of Baked Beans, then blew the fattest fucking fart ever heard in human memory, and they broke.

And Cannon is in another city.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe you've already found a source that blames Clinton, not Bush, for the cuts to disaster relief funding for New Orleans. Sigh. So sad.

Joseph Cannon said...

The real issue isn't the credibility of Alex Jones. In fact, the issue doesn't have much to do with the credibility of ANY web site.

The important issue has to do with the credibility of the named witnesses. Who are they? What, exactly, did they see and hear?

Anonymous said...

And who paid them to make up such lies?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the EPA or perhaps the CDC took water samples near or around the levees. Even though much pumping may have diluted any such samples, there would still be trace amounts of explosives in the water.
However..., a better question might be whether the results of any such water samples would ever see the light of day.

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While I applaud Al Gore’s position on global warming, I don’t support ratification of the Kyoto Protocol. Apparently, I am in good company in opposing that Protocol as currently written, as I laid out in a letter to The Times Book Review that stated in part:

On July 25, 1997, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, along with 93 other senators (with five senators not voting and none voting in opposition) adopted a resolution stating that ‘the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol to, or other agreement regarding, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change of 1992, at negotiations in Kyoto.’ Shouldn’t someone who has held the office of vice president of the United States and who has sought the presidency disclose the facts, even when reviewing a book? The reason that Gore’s name is not found with the 95 others is that as vice president presiding over the Senate, he could not cast a vote unless there was a tie. On the Kyoto vote the result was 95 to 0 against the treaty.

I agree that the best way to ward off global warming is to reduce the use of fossil fuels, primarily coal and oil, and their derivatives such as gasoline. This can be done by a number of means such as conservation, developing alternative energy sources and increasing combustion engine efficiency.

The Kyoto Protocol imposes limits on the expansion of fossil fuel use and requires cutbacks. The countries most affected by the limitations or cutbacks called for by Kyoto are the developed countries, primarily the United States, which uses 25 percent of the world’s gasoline, and to a lesser degree, Japan, Russia and the European Union.

In response to my letter criticizing Gore for urging support of Kyoto, Gore wrote to The Times as follows:

The ‘Sense of the Senate’ resolution that Ed Koch refers to actually took place five months before the Kyoto Protocol was even written, and was aimed at providing guidance to the negotiators on general principles. During the political give-and-take over its wording, that resolution was eventually stated so broadly that even the strongest supporters of a tough treaty ended up supporting it. Indeed, the author of the resolution, Senator Robert Byrd, has publicly criticized the subsequent misrepresentation of its meaning by opponents of Kyoto. The fact that the Protocol was not ratified by the Senate during the two years between its signing and the end of the last administration is evidence of the vigorous opposition by the Republican Congress to confronting the global climate crisis.

Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia wrote Resolution S. 98 that opposed ratification of Kyoto if it did not comply with certain concerns, the primary one being the exemption of developing nations like China and India from its requirements. The resolution was passed on July 25, 1997. The text of the Kyoto Protocol was ready for signature at the United Nations headquarters on March 16, 1998. The Protocol has not yet been ratified by Russia, whose signature is needed before it can become effective and binding on all signers.

As recently as October 30, 2003, Senator Byrd stated, “The Kyoto Protocol, in its current form, does not comply with the requirements of Senate Resolution 98.” He continued: “S. Res. 98 directed that any such treaty must include new scheduled commitments for the developing world in addition to any such requirements for industrialized nations but requirements would be binding and mandatory and lead to real reductions in the emissions of greenhouse gases over time. This is clearly different than the minimal, vague, and voluntary commitments that we are currently pursuing.”

This was a reference to the Bush Administration. Byrd also emphasized that “developing nations, especially the largest emitters, need to be a part of any binding global climate change treaty.”

President Clinton and Al Gore were unsuccessful in getting the signers of Kyoto to include the developing nations. Knowing that the Kyoto Protocol would not be passed without the inclusion of developing countries in some way, Clinton did not even send the Protocol to the U.S. Senate for ratification.

Gore now blames Bush for not getting the parties of the Protocol to include developing countries under its mandates. This is an outcome which neither he nor Clinton had been able to accomplish during their eight years of office from 1993 to 2001. How could Bush be expected to succeed where they had failed?

China has since surpassed Japan in its use and importation of the world’s major energy source, oil, ranking second in use after the U.S. China is now one of the largest manufacturers of automobiles, with millions of new buyers joining those already in line to buy its Cadillac and Volkswagens and many other foreign brands licensed for manufacture in China. The aggregate population of China and India is in excess of 2 billion people.

Should we sign the Kyoto Protocol in its current form, as Al Gore appears to be urging, if those nations which have signed it decline to renegotiate the Protocol and include the developing nations? I don’t think so, and I don’t think you will find a single U.S. senator who urges that we do so under these conditions.

Senator John Kerry should be asked if he as president would submit the flawed Protocol to the Senate for ratification and if he were still senator would he vote for it.

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September 23, 2005 | Print | Recommend to a friend


As residents in coastal Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama continue to piece their lives back together, there are two persistent questions about Hurricane Katrina at the forefront of acrimonious political debate this week.

First, there is the lingering question of who is responsible for the lack of planning, preparation and infrastructural improvement in the days, weeks, months and years leading up to the hurricane. This all-important question, however, has spawned a concerted effort to focus on the sluggish federal response as a diversion. (As a resource for this question, see the Katrina Consequential Timeline)

Clearly there were bureaucratic failures by FEMA -- but that is the nature of the beast, and no amount of reform, other than decentralization, will change that. The most productive thing President George Bush can do to alleviate the bureaucratic abysses is to eliminate it. As noted in this column last week, "As a first measure, the President should fire every senior executive service lawyer in DHS, FEMA, DoD, et al. The entire federal bureaucracy is hamstrung by legalities."

As for the question of accountability in New Orleans, by now, everyone on the planet knows that most of New Orleans, with the exception of the original city settlement, has been developed below sea level -- surrounded by expanding levees intended to protect it from Lake Pontchartrain, the Mississippi River and the Gulf. Those levees, designed to withstand a category three hurricane, were never upgraded to withstand a category four or five hurricane, though clearly such a storm was inevitable.

On a good day, New Orleans continuously pumps water out of the alluvial bowl created by its levees, though building structures there continue to sink. In the event of a category four or five hurricane, however, 80 percent of the city would be swamped, and every politician from the city's mayor to the state's governor knew it. But the Big Easy is a party town -- a gambling destination -- and the city's leadership wagered the city against odds of a big hurricane.

In the years prior to Hurricane Katrina, there were numerous factors that precluded the strengthening of New Orleans' levees. The primary burden for inaction lies with generations of corrupt Louisiana politicians, from the Huey Long dynasty forward. Despite the city's continued below-sea-level expansion, these crooked and negligent pols paid little regard to levee strength, even in the face of repeated warnings about their inadequacy. There were also successful legal challenges brought by environmental groups who blocked the expansion and hardening of levees in an effort to protect the neighboring wetlands. Indeed, New Orleans' hurricane-defense system -- such as it was -- would have been greatly improved by the Army Corps of Engineers had it not been for environmental lobby lawsuits in both 1977 and 1996.

In recent years, Louisiana has received more federal taxpayer-funded Corps of Engineer grants than any other state and has received more levee funding under the Bush administration than it did under the Clinton administration. However, that funding has been limited by massive boondoggle infrastructure projects like the 700-percent cost overrun for Ted Kennedy's Big Dig -- $16 billion American tax payers spent on 7.5 miles of Boston highway that could have been spent on NOLA levees, but we digress.

The funding New Orleans did receive was often diverted by the city's Levee Board to other projects. For example, the Board spent $2.4 million of levee funding on a Mardi Gras fountain near Lake Pontchartrain, and $15 million more on overpasses to riverboat casinos. All the while, a big storm was on the horizon.

On Monday, 29 August, after a few days of evacuation flip-flops, tens of thousands of New Orleans residents emerged midday to the realization that Katrina's worst winds had landed to the east. Although Katrina was now tearing into Mississippi and Alabama, New Orleans had -- or so it thought -- dodged the bullet.

As waters continued to rise against levees holding back Lake Pontchartrain, there was some concern that Katrina's massive rainfall might yet overtop the levees. However, it appears now that the levees were not overtopped. In fact, there is compelling evidence that the floodwalls failed structurally in two locations -- which would not have happened if they had been built to specifications. (Contrary to assertions by Nation of Islam agitator Louis Farrakhan, the levees were not "blown up" in order to divert flood waters from "white" to "black" parts of the city.)

Simply put, somewhere there is a contractor, and a whole cadre of well-grafted inspectors, who are accountable for the structural failure of the levees. Finding that contractor will be one of many serious tasks facing congressional investigators in the coming months.

As you recall, in the immediate aftermath of the levee failure, Democrats were waving accusatory fingers and demanding an "inquisition commission." They were hoping for colorful headlines blaming the Bush administration and, by extension, anyone on a Republican ticket in the upcoming election year. Then, when Republicans joined in the call for investigations, Democrats quickly backed down and, indeed, refused to take part altogether. Upon reflection, they determined that an inquiry into factual communication, material distribution and evacuation failures after Katrina would instead bury Louisiana Democrats -- from buck-passing New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin (see his evacuation plan) to lachrymose Governor Kathleen Blanco to hysterical Senator Mary Landrieu.

Truth be told, congressional investigators need only do one thing to get to the bottom of the floodwaters in New Orleans -- follow the money.

Rep. Tom Davis, chairman of the Select Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina, said this week that his investigation will "move ahead" with or without Democrats. Rep. Davis, who also chairs the chamber's Government Reform Committee, said, "At the end of the day, we must come together for good, hard fact-finding." But, he noted, Democrats "could tie up the process forever, and losing time is losing information." (Of course, the Demos will obstruct the investigation, claiming it is a Republican cover-up.)

Perhaps the committee's first witness should be Bill Nungesser, a former Levee Board chairman who tried to reform the system. Mr. Nungesser says of the levee failure, "Every time I turned over a rock, there was something rotten. I used to tell people, 'If your children ever die in a hurricane, come shoot us, because we're responsible.' We throw away all sorts of money." (In other words, Louisiana Democrats had looted New Orleans long before Katrina hit.)

Rotten indeed, which leads us to the second pressing question about Hurricane Katrina this week: Who's going to pay for what -- and how?

President Bush has proposed a massive reconstruction effort that will ultimately cost perhaps $200 billion both in hard-dollar reconstruction costs and soft-dollar tax incentives, enterprise zones and the like. The President also called for modest cuts in other government programs to offset the reconstruction costs, anticipating that congressional Republicans would follow suit with more aggressive proposals for cutting other department budgets.

On that note, House Republican Study Committee chairman Rep. Mike Pence announced "Operation Offset" Wednesday, a proposal to cut $500 billion over the next decade. "We must begin now, as the American people expect particularly Republican majorities in Washington to do, to make the hard choices," said Pence, who anteed up $16 million earmarked in the just-passed highway bill for his district's roads and infrastructure. Pence was quick to add that cutting all the pork out of the massive $284-billion highway bill (about $120 billion) would offset only about half the Gulf Coast reconstruction costs, and that there would have to be substantial cuts across the board in other bloated programs.

In a remarkable move, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was quick to comply, announcing that she would return $70 million of the $129 million in highway-bill earmarks that she'd grabbed for her district.

Speaker Dennis Hastert warned, "We all know that we have a fiscal responsibility throughout this process. We want to make sure that taxpayer dollars are being used for their intended purposes and not being misspent."

Rep. Tom Tancredo added his concern about how reconstruction funds will be used: "The head of the FBI in New Orleans just this past year described the state's public corruption as 'epidemic, endemic, and entrenched. No branch of government is exempt.' The question is not whether Congress should provide for those in need, but whether state and local officials who have been derelict in their duty should be trusted with that money."

Undoubtedly, the potential for fraud is as massive as the reconstruction effort, and some of this "cost offsetting" is tantamount to dumping unconstitutional pork from one plate to another.

Amid all of this rancorous debate about who's to blame and who will foot the bill, the plight of those on the Gulf Coast who actually lost family members, homes and businesses somehow gets lost. Those at ground level are not worrying about political agendas. They're busy trying to provide for their families. Or perhaps they're searching through the rubble, trying to find fragments of family heirlooms and photographs. It is for them that we continue to pray every day.

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